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  youtube-dl blocked? Markos <markos@c2o.pro.br> - 2024-04-24 04:30 +0200
    Re: youtube-dl blocked? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-04-24 04:40 +0200
    Re: youtube-dl blocked? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-04-24 04:40 +0200
    Re: youtube-dl blocked? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-04-24 04:50 +0200
      Re: youtube-dl blocked? Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-04-24 07:00 +0200
        Re: youtube-dl blocked? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-04-24 16:00 +0200
    Re: youtube-dl blocked? "(Holloway) Chew, Kean Ho" <hollowaykeanho@gmail.com> - 2024-04-24 05:20 +0200
      Re: youtube-dl blocked? Markos <markos@c2o.pro.br> - 2024-04-28 05:00 +0200
        Re: youtube-dl blocked? "(Holloway) Chew, Kean Ho" <hollowaykeanho@gmail.com> - 2024-04-28 06:00 +0200
    Re: [OFFTOPIC] youtube-dl blocked? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-04-24 05:30 +0200
    Re: youtube-dl blocked? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-04-24 05:30 +0200
      Re: youtube-dl blocked? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-04-24 16:40 +0200
        Re: youtube-dl blocked? Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-04-24 16:50 +0200
        Re: youtube-dl blocked? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-04-24 17:00 +0200
          Re: youtube-dl blocked? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-04-24 17:30 +0200
            Re: youtube-dl blocked? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-04-24 17:40 +0200
              Re: youtube-dl blocked? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-04-24 17:50 +0200
            Re: youtube-dl blocked? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-04-24 18:40 +0200
              Re: youtube-dl blocked? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-04-25 15:10 +0200
          Re: youtube-dl blocked? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-04-24 18:10 +0200
            Re: youtube-dl blocked? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-04-24 18:50 +0200
              Re: youtube-dl blocked? Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-04-26 16:40 +0200
                Re: youtube-dl blocked? Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-04-26 19:00 +0200
                Re: youtube-dl blocked? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-04-26 17:40 +0200
            Re: youtube-dl blocked? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-04-24 21:40 +0200
            Re: youtube-dl blocked? Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2024-04-24 21:40 +0200
    Re: youtube-dl blocked? Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-04-24 07:00 +0200
      Re: youtube-dl blocked? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-04-24 15:20 +0200
        Re: youtube-dl blocked? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-04-24 16:30 +0200

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#269062

On 2024-04-24, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
>
> My experience was similar to Bret's, only I'd long got used to not
> just taking Debian's proferred version, but checking whether there
> was a newer version somewhere around. It was in February 2023 when

I had to use it once for a friend of my wife. I downloaded the
github version (as it keeps abreast of the frequent breakages, and I
lack the moral rigor of our numerous purists).

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#269094

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 12:43 PM Curt wrote:
>
> On 2024-04-24, David Wright wrote:
> >
> > My experience was similar to Bret's, only I'd long got used to not
> > just taking Debian's proferred version, but checking whether there
> > was a newer version somewhere around. It was in February 2023 when
>
> I had to use it once for a friend of my wife. I downloaded the
> github version (as it keeps abreast of the frequent breakages, and I
> lack the moral rigor of our numerous purists).

I should probably switch to using the Debian package; I lack the moral
rigor to keep it updated :(

$ which youtube-dl
/usr/local/bin/youtube-dl

$ youtube-dl --version
2021.12.17

$ which yt-dlp
/usr/local/bin/yt-dlp

$ yt-dlp --version
2023.03.04

Regards,
Lee

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#269095

On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 11:37 AM Curt wrote:
>
> On 2024-04-26, Lee wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 12:43 PM Curt wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2024-04-24, David Wright wrote:
> >> >
> >> > My experience was similar to Bret's, only I'd long got used to not
> >> > just taking Debian's proferred version, but checking whether there
> >> > was a newer version somewhere around. It was in February 2023 when
> >>
> >> I had to use it once for a friend of my wife. I downloaded the
> >> github version (as it keeps abreast of the frequent breakages, and I
> >> lack the moral rigor of our numerous purists).
> >
> > I should probably switch to using the Debian package; I lack the moral
> > rigor to keep it updated :(
> >
   <.. snip output showing how old my software is ..>
>
> I'm really not a very technical personal at heart, but what I found at
> once slightly disturbing and mildly surprising was the lack of
> understanding of how the whole shebang works for a majority of my
> contemporaries.

Right.  Ask someone to explain what all is involved with getting a
packet from <here> to <there> on the Internet.  I suspect most would
ask "What's a packet?"

> I mean, my wife went to the url of the youtube video,
> downloaded *that* from her browser, and then expressed a certain
> confusion that what she had downloaded onto her hard drive was not the
> video itself, but something else entirely.

<grin>  My wife knows that won't work; she skips directly to the "can
you do this for me" step.

> There was no use trying to explain to her anything at all; she only
> wanted the video for her friend, and if I could get it for her, that was
> the full extent of her desire. She wasn't interested in understanding
> how it "works" fundamentally. Her attitude was and is: you're interested
> in that sort of thing, but I'm not and am not going waste my time with
> whatever it is.
>
> There are many intelligent people floating around the world with similar
> attributes. What can you do for them but what you can do for them?

Try explaining?  If they don't want to know that's one thing but if
you keep it simple enough maybe they'll listen & learn something.

Regards,
Lee

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#269096

On 2024-04-26, Lee <ler762@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 12:43 PM Curt wrote:
>>
>> On 2024-04-24, David Wright wrote:
>> >
>> > My experience was similar to Bret's, only I'd long got used to not
>> > just taking Debian's proferred version, but checking whether there
>> > was a newer version somewhere around. It was in February 2023 when
>>
>> I had to use it once for a friend of my wife. I downloaded the
>> github version (as it keeps abreast of the frequent breakages, and I
>> lack the moral rigor of our numerous purists).
>
> I should probably switch to using the Debian package; I lack the moral
> rigor to keep it updated :(
>
> $ which youtube-dl
> /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl
>
> $ youtube-dl --version
> 2021.12.17
>
> $ which yt-dlp
> /usr/local/bin/yt-dlp
>
> $ yt-dlp --version
> 2023.03.04
>
> Regards,
> Lee

I'm really not a very technical personal at heart, but what I found at
once slightly disturbing and mildly surprising was the lack of
understanding of how the whole shebang works for a majority of my
contemporaries. I mean, my wife went to the url of the youtube video,
downloaded *that* from her browser, and then expressed a certain
confusion that what she had downloaded onto her hard drive was not the
video itself, but something else entirely.

There was no use trying to explain to her anything at all; she only
wanted the video for her friend, and if I could get it for her, that was
the full extent of her desire. She wasn't interested in understanding
how it "works" fundamentally. Her attitude was and is: you're interested
in that sort of thing, but I'm not and am not going waste my time with
whatever it is.

There are many intelligent people floating around the world with similar
attributes. What can you do for them but what you can do for them? 

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#269064

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 12:27:22PM -0700, Fred wrote:
> If you type yt-dlp --help you get a large list of options.
> yt-dlp --update will get you the very latest version.  (Must be root).

    -U, --update                    Check if updates are available. As yt-dlp
                                    has been installed via apt, you should use
                                    that to update.  If you're on a stable
                                    release, also check backports.

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#269065

On 4/24/24 08:30, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 24 Apr 2024 at 10:50:06 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:31:44PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
>>> The latest version of youtube-dl , makes it too old to try to use now; if
>>> you can get it working with youtube, good luck to you.
>>>
>>> An unmaintained package, that is three years since last updated, for
>>> accessing web sites on the World Wide Web?
>>>
>>> Hmmmm.....
>>
>> The youtube-dl package in Debian 12 is a transitional package which
>> brings in yt-dlp (version 2023.03.04-1 currently).
>>
>> Whether that's too old to be usable is a good question, but it's
>> definitely not "three years since last updated".
> 
> My experience was similar to Bret's, only I'd long got used to not
> just taking Debian's proferred version, but checking whether there
> was a newer version somewhere around. It was in February 2023 when
> I found that even the most modern version of youtube-dl that I could
> find would still not work with some sites that had worked before.
> That's when I stumbled upon yt-dlp, and realised the world had
> quietly moved on.
> 
> This was in the days of bullseye, and note that bullseye still has
> a /normal/ youtube-dl package, 34 months old, and no yt-dlp package.
> For the latter, you need to be running backports (and I have no idea
> when yt-dlp entered bullseye-backports).
> 
> It kind of reminds me of the mplayer, mpv, and the debian multimedia
> site melange of a few years ago, only there there was more discussion
> of rival versions (and the perils of using that site) on the list.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 
Hi,

If you type yt-dlp --help you get a large list of options.
yt-dlp --update will get you the very latest version.  (Must be root).

Best regards,
Fred

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#269038

Am 23.04.2024 um 23:15:17 Uhr schrieb Markos:

> The site https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
> 
> is blocked?

Please specify that more precisely.
Run

host ytdl-org.github.io

-- 
Gruß
Marco

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#269048

On Wed 24 Apr 2024 at 06:58:02 (+0200), Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 23.04.2024 um 23:15:17 Uhr schrieb Markos:
> 
> > The site https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
> > 
> > is blocked?
> 
> Please specify that more precisely.
> Run
> 
> host ytdl-org.github.io

$ host ytdl-org.github.io
ytdl-org.github.io has address 185.199.111.153
ytdl-org.github.io has address 185.199.108.153
ytdl-org.github.io has address 185.199.109.153
ytdl-org.github.io has address 185.199.110.153
ytdl-org.github.io has IPv6 address 2606:50c0:8002::153
ytdl-org.github.io has IPv6 address 2606:50c0:8003::153
ytdl-org.github.io has IPv6 address 2606:50c0:8000::153
ytdl-org.github.io has IPv6 address 2606:50c0:8001::153
$ 

$ wget https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
--2024-04-24 07:59:25--  https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
Resolving ytdl-org.github.io (ytdl-org.github.io)... 185.199.109.153, 185.199.110.153, 185.199.111.153, ...
Connecting to ytdl-org.github.io (ytdl-org.github.io)|185.199.109.153|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 3834 (3.7K) [text/html]
Saving to: ‘download.html’

download.html               100%[=========================================>]   3.74K  --.-KB/s    in 0s      

2024-04-24 07:59:25 (18.4 MB/s) - ‘download.html’ saved [3834/3834]

$ ls -Glg download.html 
-rw-r----- 1 3834 Aug  1  2023 download.html
$ 

From the middle of the US.

Cheers,
David.

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#269052

On 2024-04-24, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wed 24 Apr 2024 at 06:58:02 (+0200), Marco Moock wrote:
>> Am 23.04.2024 um 23:15:17 Uhr schrieb Markos:
>> 
>> > The site https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
>> > 
>> > is blocked?
>> 
>> Please specify that more precisely.
>> Run
>> 
>> host ytdl-org.github.io
>
> $ host ytdl-org.github.io
> ytdl-org.github.io has address 185.199.111.153
> ytdl-org.github.io has address 185.199.108.153
> ytdl-org.github.io has address 185.199.109.153
> ytdl-org.github.io has address 185.199.110.153
> ytdl-org.github.io has IPv6 address 2606:50c0:8002::153
> ytdl-org.github.io has IPv6 address 2606:50c0:8003::153
> ytdl-org.github.io has IPv6 address 2606:50c0:8000::153
> ytdl-org.github.io has IPv6 address 2606:50c0:8001::153
> $ 
>
> $ wget https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
> --2024-04-24 07:59:25--  https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
> Resolving ytdl-org.github.io (ytdl-org.github.io)... 185.199.109.153, 185.199.110.153, 185.199.111.153, ...
> Connecting to ytdl-org.github.io (ytdl-org.github.io)|185.199.109.153|:443... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> Length: 3834 (3.7K) [text/html]
> Saving to: ‘download.html’
>
> download.html               100%[=========================================>]   3.74K  --.-KB/s    in 0s      
>
> 2024-04-24 07:59:25 (18.4 MB/s) - ‘download.html’ saved [3834/3834]
>
> $ ls -Glg download.html 
> -rw-r----- 1 3834 Aug  1  2023 download.html
> $ 
>
> From the middle of the US.

curty@einstein:~$ host ytdl-org.github.io
ytdl-org.github.io has address 185.199.111.153
ytdl-org.github.io has address 185.199.108.153
ytdl-org.github.io has address 185.199.109.153
ytdl-org.github.io has address 185.199.110.153
ytdl-org.github.io has IPv6 address 2606:50c0:8003::153
ytdl-org.github.io has IPv6 address 2606:50c0:8000::153
ytdl-org.github.io has IPv6 address 2606:50c0:8001::153
ytdl-org.github.io has IPv6 address 2606:50c0:8002::153
curty@einstein:~$ wget https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
--2024-04-24 16:11:26--  https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
Resolving ytdl-org.github.io (ytdl-org.github.io)... 2606:50c0:8002::153, 2606:50c0:8001::153, 2606:50c0:8000::153, ...
Connecting to ytdl-org.github.io (ytdl-org.github.io)|2606:50c0:8002::153|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 3834 (3.7K) [text/html]
Saving to: ‘download.html’

download.html              100%[======================================>]   3.74K  --.-KB/s    in 0.001s  

2024-04-24 16:11:27 (2.96 MB/s) - ‘download.html’ saved [3834/3834]

curty@einstein:~$ ls -Glg download.html
-rw-r--r-- 1 3834 Aug  1  2023 download.html

>From Île-de-France.

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