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Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

Started byDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
First post2024-04-14 14:30 +0200
Last post2024-04-21 10:10 +0200
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  Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-04-14 14:30 +0200
    Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared "Gareth Evans" <donotspam@fastmail.fm> - 2024-04-15 18:30 +0200
      Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-04-16 01:20 +0200
    Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-04-20 17:50 +0200
      Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared Gareth Evans <donotspam@fastmail.fm> - 2024-04-21 10:10 +0200

#268832 — Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2024-04-14 14:30 +0200
SubjectDebian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared
Message-ID<It79D-6dWI-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
debian-user:

I have a Dell Latitude E6520:

2024-04-14 04:28:39 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
11.9
Linux laalaa 5.10.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.209-2 (2024-01-31) 
x86_64 GNU/Linux

2024-04-14 04:34:40 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ dpkg-query -l xfce4 network-manager network-manager-gnome
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| 
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name                  Version          Architecture Description
+++-=====================-================-============-=========================================================
ii  network-manager       1.30.6-1+deb11u1 amd64        network 
management framework (daemon and userspace tools)
ii  network-manager-gnome 1.20.0-3         amd64        network 
management framework (GNOME frontend)
ii  xfce4                 4.16             all          Meta-package for 
the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment


I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. 
Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!).


But, the machine is connected to my LAN:

2024-04-14 05:24:10 root@laalaa ~
# ifconfig wlp3s0
wlp3s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
         inet 192.168.REDACTED  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 
192.168.REDACTED
         inet6 REDACTED  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20<link>
         ether REDACTED  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
         RX packets 5786  bytes 2830592 (2.6 MiB)
         RX errors 0  dropped 119  overruns 0  frame 0
         TX packets 3897  bytes 518278 (506.1 KiB)
         TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0


Looking in the the Xfce panel Application Menu, I am unable to find 
Network Manager.


Looking at the Debian WIKI page "NetworkManager":

https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager


It looks like the Network Manager daemon is running:

2024-04-14 04:32:49 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ ps -A | grep -i network
     828 ?        00:00:00 NetworkManager


nm-applet(1) looks like the program I want (?).  Attempting to start it 
via a terminal has no effect:

2024-04-14 04:40:25 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ which nm-applet
/usr/bin/nm-applet

2024-04-14 05:27:05 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ nm-applet

2024-04-14 05:27:08 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$


RTFM nm-applet(1), it seems the desktop session manager is failing to 
start nm-applet(1) (?):

2024-04-14 04:58:49 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ man nm-applet | cat
...
DESCRIPTION
        nm-applet  is  a GTK-based GUI applet to monitor network status
        and devices and to start and stop network  connections  managed
        by  NetworkManager.   nm-applet is normally started at login by
        the desktop session manager and does not need to be  run  manu-
        ally.   nm-applet conforms to the XDG System Tray specification
        and requires that the desktop environment provide a System Tray
        implementation in which the applet will be embedded.


I am unable to find relevant error messages under /var/log.


The network Connection Editor can be run via a terminal:

2024-04-14 04:55:29 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ which nm-connection-editor
/usr/bin/nm-connection-editor

2024-04-14 04:55:38 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ nm-connection-editor


Does anyone know why the Network Manager Xfce panel applet is missing, 
how to get it back, and/or how to start it some other way?


David

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#268843

From"Gareth Evans" <donotspam@fastmail.fm>
Date2024-04-15 18:30 +0200
Message-ID<Itxnr-6tPb-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#268832
On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
> debian-user:
>
> I have a Dell Latitude E6520:
>
> 2024-04-14 04:28:39 dpchrist@laalaa ~
> $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
> 11.9
> Linux laalaa 5.10.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.209-2 (2024-01-31) 
> x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> 2024-04-14 04:34:40 dpchrist@laalaa ~
> $ dpkg-query -l xfce4 network-manager network-manager-gnome
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | 
> Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name                  Version          Architecture Description
> +++-=====================-================-============-=========================================================
> ii  network-manager       1.30.6-1+deb11u1 amd64        network 
> management framework (daemon and userspace tools)
> ii  network-manager-gnome 1.20.0-3         amd64        network 
> management framework (GNOME frontend)
> ii  xfce4                 4.16             all          Meta-package 
> for 
> the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment
>
>
> I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. 
> Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!).
>
>
> But, the machine is connected to my LAN:
>
> 2024-04-14 05:24:10 root@laalaa ~
> # ifconfig wlp3s0
> wlp3s0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
>          inet 192.168.REDACTED  netmask 255.255.255.0  broadcast 
> 192.168.REDACTED
>          inet6 REDACTED  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20<link>
>          ether REDACTED  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
>          RX packets 5786  bytes 2830592 (2.6 MiB)
>          RX errors 0  dropped 119  overruns 0  frame 0
>          TX packets 3897  bytes 518278 (506.1 KiB)
>          TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
>
>
> Looking in the the Xfce panel Application Menu, I am unable to find 
> Network Manager.
>
>
> Looking at the Debian WIKI page "NetworkManager":
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager
>
>
> It looks like the Network Manager daemon is running:
>
> 2024-04-14 04:32:49 dpchrist@laalaa ~
> $ ps -A | grep -i network
>      828 ?        00:00:00 NetworkManager
>
>
> nm-applet(1) looks like the program I want (?).  Attempting to start it 
> via a terminal has no effect:
>
> 2024-04-14 04:40:25 dpchrist@laalaa ~
> $ which nm-applet
> /usr/bin/nm-applet
>
> 2024-04-14 05:27:05 dpchrist@laalaa ~
> $ nm-applet
>
> 2024-04-14 05:27:08 dpchrist@laalaa ~
> $
>
>
> RTFM nm-applet(1), it seems the desktop session manager is failing to 
> start nm-applet(1) (?):
>
> 2024-04-14 04:58:49 dpchrist@laalaa ~
> $ man nm-applet | cat
> ...
> DESCRIPTION
>         nm-applet  is  a GTK-based GUI applet to monitor network status
>         and devices and to start and stop network  connections  managed
>         by  NetworkManager.   nm-applet is normally started at login by
>         the desktop session manager and does not need to be  run  manu-
>         ally.   nm-applet conforms to the XDG System Tray specification
>         and requires that the desktop environment provide a System Tray
>         implementation in which the applet will be embedded.
>
>
> I am unable to find relevant error messages under /var/log.
>
>
> The network Connection Editor can be run via a terminal:
>
> 2024-04-14 04:55:29 dpchrist@laalaa ~
> $ which nm-connection-editor
> /usr/bin/nm-connection-editor
>
> 2024-04-14 04:55:38 dpchrist@laalaa ~
> $ nm-connection-editor
>
>
> Does anyone know why the Network Manager Xfce panel applet is missing, 
> how to get it back, and/or how to start it some other way?
>
>
> David

Hi David,

I can't speak for XFCE, but certainly for Mate there was a time when multiple notification area panel widgets were available, not all of which would show everything to be expected.  Is that a possibility?

Does 

$ ps aux |grep nm-applet

show anything?  Before or after

$ nm-applet

?

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#268863

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2024-04-16 01:20 +0200
Message-ID<ItDMd-6xJx-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#268843
On 4/15/24 09:21, Gareth Evans wrote:
> On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote:
>> ...
>> I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years.
>> Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!).
>> ...
> Hi David,
> 
> I can't speak for XFCE, but certainly for Mate there was a time when multiple notification area panel widgets were available, not all of which would show everything to be expected.  Is that a possibility?
> 
> Does
> 
> $ ps aux |grep nm-applet
> 
> show anything?  Before or after
> 
> $ nm-applet
> 
> ?


2024-04-15 16:08:23 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ ps aux | grep nm-applet
dpchrist    1518  0.1  0.2 426500 35380 ?        Sl   16:06   0:00 nm-applet
dpchrist    1940  0.0  0.0   3240   644 pts/0    S+   16:15   0:00 grep 
nm-applet

2024-04-15 16:15:12 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ nm-applet

2024-04-15 16:15:31 dpchrist@laalaa ~
$ ps aux | grep nm-applet
dpchrist    1518  0.1  0.2 426500 35380 ?        Sl   16:06   0:00 nm-applet
dpchrist    1952  0.0  0.0   3240   644 pts/0    S+   16:15   0:00 grep 
nm-applet


David

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#268971

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2024-04-20 17:50 +0200
Message-ID<Ivl8t-7Fab-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#268832
On 4/14/24 05:29, David Christensen wrote:
> debian-user:
> 
> I have a Dell Latitude E6520:
> 
> 2024-04-14 04:28:39 dpchrist@laalaa ~
> $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
> 11.9
> Linux laalaa 5.10.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.209-2 (2024-01-31) 
> x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> 2024-04-14 04:34:40 dpchrist@laalaa ~
> $ dpkg-query -l xfce4 network-manager network-manager-gnome
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | 
> Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name                  Version          Architecture Description
> +++-=====================-================-============-=========================================================
> ii  network-manager       1.30.6-1+deb11u1 amd64        network 
> management framework (daemon and userspace tools)
> ii  network-manager-gnome 1.20.0-3         amd64        network 
> management framework (GNOME frontend)
> ii  xfce4                 4.16             all          Meta-package for 
> the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment
> 
> 
> I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. 
> Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!).


I compared the problem machine against another with a working Xfce panel 
Network Manager applet, and discovered that the Status Tray Plugin was 
missing.  I may have deleted Status Tray Plugin while cleaning, but did 
not notice the change immediately (?).


So, I added Status Tray Plugin and now Network Manager has returned.


David

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#268975

FromGareth Evans <donotspam@fastmail.fm>
Date2024-04-21 10:10 +0200
Message-ID<IvAqR-7PcU-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#268971

> On 20 Apr 2024, at 16:49, David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> wrote:
> 
> On 4/14/24 05:29, David Christensen wrote:
>> debian-user:
>> I have a Dell Latitude E6520:
>> 2024-04-14 04:28:39 dpchrist@laalaa ~
>> $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a
>> 11.9
>> Linux laalaa 5.10.0-28-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.209-2 (2024-01-31) x86_64 GNU/Linux
>> 2024-04-14 04:34:40 dpchrist@laalaa ~
>> $ dpkg-query -l xfce4 network-manager network-manager-gnome
>> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
>> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
>> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
>> ||/ Name                  Version          Architecture Description
>> +++-=====================-================-============-=========================================================
>> ii  network-manager       1.30.6-1+deb11u1 amd64        network management framework (daemon and userspace tools)
>> ii  network-manager-gnome 1.20.0-3         amd64        network management framework (GNOME frontend)
>> ii  xfce4                 4.16             all          Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment
>> I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!).
> 
> 
> I compared the problem machine against another with a working Xfce panel Network Manager applet, and discovered that the Status Tray Plugin was missing.  I may have deleted Status Tray Plugin while cleaning, but did not notice the change immediately (?).
> 
> 
> So, I added Status Tray Plugin and now Network Manager has returned

Glad you solved it and thanks for explaining how.  

I hadn't twigged that "status tray" was a separate thing to "notification plugin" in XFCE (hence my earlier nomenclature) though on inspection, there it is indeed!

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