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  medically smart watches gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-02-24 16:10 +0100
    Re: medically smart watches Loïc Grenié <loic.grenie@gmail.com> - 2024-02-24 17:10 +0100
      Re: medically smart watches gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-02-24 18:10 +0100
        Re: medically smart watches John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-02-24 18:30 +0100
          Re: medically smart watches gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-02-24 18:40 +0100
            Re: medically smart watches gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-02-25 01:40 +0100
        Re: medically smart watches Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-02-24 20:10 +0100
          Re: medically smart watches Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2024-02-25 09:30 +0100
            Re: medically smart watches gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-02-25 11:20 +0100
              /etc/apt/sources.list example [WAS Re: medically smart watches] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-02-25 13:20 +0100
                Re: /etc/apt/sources.list example [WAS Re: medically smart watches] gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-02-26 00:30 +0100
              Re: medically smart watches "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2024-02-25 20:20 +0100
                Re: medically smart watches gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-02-26 00:40 +0100
                  Re: medically smart watches David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-02-26 04:30 +0100
                  Re: medically smart watches "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2024-02-26 23:00 +0100
        Re: medically smart watches Mariusz Gronczewski <xani@devrandom.pl> - 2024-02-25 00:20 +0100
    Re: medically smart watches Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-02-24 17:20 +0100
      Re: medically smart watches gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-02-24 18:10 +0100
    Re: medically smart watches Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-02-24 22:30 +0100
    Re: medically smart watches hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-26 12:30 +0100
      Re: medically smart watches Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2024-02-26 13:30 +0100
        Re: medically smart watches gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-02-26 16:00 +0100
        Re: medically smart watches hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-26 17:00 +0100
      Re: medically smart watches Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-02-26 14:10 +0100
        Re: medically smart watches hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-26 17:20 +0100
          Re: medically smart watches Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-02-26 21:00 +0100
            Re: medically smart watches Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-02-26 21:20 +0100
      Re: medically smart watches gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-02-26 15:50 +0100
        Re: medically smart watches John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-02-26 16:50 +0100
        Re: medically smart watches hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-26 17:10 +0100
        Re: medically smart watches Loïc Grenié <loic.grenie@gmail.com> - 2024-02-26 17:20 +0100

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#267777 — medically smart watches

Greetings all;

As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of trulicity, a 
weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose 
levels has got us scrambling for alternatives.  So a month back I bought 
one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar.

No mention of it needing to be paired withe iphone or clone there of.

But it does even work as a watch when unpaired. It has no setime from 
the single button it has, apparently using ntp thru the smartphone pair 
for that.

Someplace in this midden heap I hail from is a USB3 hub with only 3 usb 
port, the 4th port has a wifi radio and a cat6 socket. The radios in 
everything else here are turned off to keep a used to be neighbor from 
using 80G a month with his cellphone, billed to me.

So the question I'm getting to is: Do we have a utility that can be 
paired with whatever wifi/bluetooth this thing uses and would allow it 
to work? This watch is a "MOVEMENT" SMART WATCH. Ack the instructs its a 
bluetooth, and It looks as if I have to buy a BT adaptor, so advise on 
that front would be most welcome also.

I tried a bt house net 20 years ago, 3% dependability, haven't messed 
with it since. Couldn't move a 3k text file even rz/sz-3.3.6 aka zmodem.

Thank you all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#267779

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On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, at 16:03, Gene Heskett wrote:

> Greetings all;
>
> As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of trulicity, a
> weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose
> levels has got us scrambling for alternatives.  So a month back I bought
> one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar.
>

"purports" appears to be the correct verb
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-communication

   (as for the rest of the mail, I have no idea whatsoever).

          Loïc

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#267783

On 2/24/24 11:03, Loïc Grenié wrote:
> On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, at 16:03, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
>     Greetings all;
> 
>     As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of
>     trulicity, a
>     weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose
>     levels has got us scrambling for alternatives.  So a month back I
>     bought
>     one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar.
> 
> 
> "purports" appears to be the correct verb
> https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-communication <https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-communication>
> 
I got a msg from our state AG warning me about these, but it was 2 days 
after I had ordered this thing. Too little warning, too late, but I'm 
the curios type, and this device looks good so I would like to see how 
it compares with the antique finger prick model we've been using since 
Hector's great grandfather was a puppy.. New tech sometimes work pretty 
good while the FDA seems to try to protect old tech.
>     (as for the rest of the mail, I have no idea whatsoever).
> 
>            Loïc

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#267784

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noninvasive_glucose_monitor
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#267785

On 2/24/24 12:23, John Hasler wrote:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noninvasive_glucose_monitor
The consensus seems to be that hey are not yet ready for daily driver use.
But I'm that curios cat.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#267806

On 2/24/24 12:36, gene heskett wrote:
> On 2/24/24 12:23, John Hasler wrote:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noninvasive_glucose_monitor
> The consensus seems to be that hey are not yet ready for daily driver use.
> But I'm that curios cat.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

So I just installed the only driver that synaptic said was bt-5.3 with 
support for around 20 intel chips.  Then get one of the long range whole 
house models from amazon. Reports later.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#267788

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 12:06 PM gene heskett wrote:
>
> On 2/24/24 11:03, Loïc Grenié wrote:
> > On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, at 16:03, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> >     Greetings all;
> >
> >     As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of
> >     trulicity, a
> >     weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose
> >     levels has got us scrambling for alternatives.  So a month back I
> >     bought
> >     one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar.
> >
> >
> > "purports" appears to be the correct verb
> > https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-communication <https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-communication>
> >
> I got a msg from our state AG warning me about these, but it was 2 days
> after I had ordered this thing. Too little warning, too late, but I'm
> the curios type, and this device looks good so I would like to see how
> it compares with the antique finger prick model we've been using since
> Hector's great grandfather was a puppy.. New tech sometimes work pretty
> good while the FDA seems to try to protect old tech.

Give the FreeStyle Libre 14 day sensor a try - it's so much nicer than
poking holes in yourself whenever you want to know what your blood
sugar is.
There's a reader you have to buy or a current enough smart phone can
be used as a reader.

What I'd like to find is software that lets me get the data off the
reader into my PC.  Abbott wants everything uploaded to their servers
and I quit reading the terms of service when it got to them giving out
my data after 'anonymising' it.

Regards
Lee

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#267816

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 02:05:50PM -0500, Lee wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 12:06 PM gene heskett wrote:
> > On 2/24/24 11:03, Loïc Grenié wrote:
> > > On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, at 16:03, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >
> > >     Greetings all;
> > >
> > >     As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of
> > >     trulicity, a
> > >     weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose
> > >     levels has got us scrambling for alternatives.  So a month back I
> > >     bought
> > >     one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar.
> > >
> > >
> > > "purports" appears to be the correct verb
> > > https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-communication <https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-communication>
> > >
> > I got a msg from our state AG warning me about these, but it was 2 days
> > after I had ordered this thing. Too little warning, too late, but I'm
> > the curios type, and this device looks good so I would like to see how
> > it compares with the antique finger prick model we've been using since
> > Hector's great grandfather was a puppy.. New tech sometimes work pretty
> > good while the FDA seems to try to protect old tech.
> 
> Give the FreeStyle Libre 14 day sensor a try - it's so much nicer than
> poking holes in yourself whenever you want to know what your blood
> sugar is.
> There's a reader you have to buy or a current enough smart phone can
> be used as a reader.
> 
> What I'd like to find is software that lets me get the data off the
> reader into my PC.

That is what Original Poster also wants. ( More about OP below )
The so called smart watch has BlueTooth. This email thread, I think,
was started to get more information about using "BlueTooth" on Debian
systems. (OP should do better to express what the actual question is.)

As I see it, is https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser now the best place
to go.


> Abbott wants everything uploaded to their servers and I quit reading
> the terms of service when it got to them giving out my data after
> 'anonymising' it.

I hear what you say.  I agree with you.

Most likely we are aware of the challenge.
(And we are facing already other challenges.)

 
> Regards
> Lee

 
Groeten
Geert Stappers

About Original Poster:
I have never met Gene Heskett. When we will, I guess he will do 80%,
may be 90% of the talking, unlikely fifty-fifty. I think I will OK
with the non-balanced dialog, because I knew it from the begining.
Beside the difference in verboseness between Gene and me, there are lots
of common goals. For starters "Debian". Gene wrote in mailinglists posts
about his work as engineer, where he did serious trouble shooting.
-- 
Silence is hard to parse

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#267820

On 2/25/24 03:36, Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 02:05:50PM -0500, Lee wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 12:06 PM gene heskett wrote:
>>> On 2/24/24 11:03, Loïc Grenié wrote:
>>>> On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, at 16:03, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      Greetings all;
>>>>
>>>>      As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of
>>>>      trulicity, a
>>>>      weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose
>>>>      levels has got us scrambling for alternatives.  So a month back I
>>>>      bought
>>>>      one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "purports" appears to be the correct verb
>>>> https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-communication <https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-communication>
>>>>
>>> I got a msg from our state AG warning me about these, but it was 2 days
>>> after I had ordered this thing. Too little warning, too late, but I'm
>>> the curios type, and this device looks good so I would like to see how
>>> it compares with the antique finger prick model we've been using since
>>> Hector's great grandfather was a puppy.. New tech sometimes work pretty
>>> good while the FDA seems to try to protect old tech.
>>
>> Give the FreeStyle Libre 14 day sensor a try - it's so much nicer than
>> poking holes in yourself whenever you want to know what your blood
>> sugar is.
>> There's a reader you have to buy or a current enough smart phone can
>> be used as a reader.
>>
>> What I'd like to find is software that lets me get the data off the
>> reader into my PC.
> 
> That is what Original Poster also wants. ( More about OP below )
> The so called smart watch has BlueTooth. This email thread, I think,
> was started to get more information about using "BlueTooth" on Debian
> systems. (OP should do better to express what the actual question is.)
> 
> As I see it, is https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser now the best place
> to go.
> 
I have to agree, and pursuing that seems to disclose I do not have the 
non-frre in my configs. So I'm now asking for help to add it to my 
/etc/apt/sources *.list stuff.
> 
>> Abbott wants everything uploaded to their servers and I quit reading
>> the terms of service when it got to them giving out my data after
>> 'anonymising' it.

I too would run like the wind to get away from that bit of zuckerburgish 
contamination.

> I hear what you say.  I agree with you.
> 
> Most likely we are aware of the challenge.
> (And we are facing already other challenges.)
> 
>   
>> Regards
>> Lee
> 
>   
> Groeten
> Geert Stappers
> 
> About Original Poster:
> I have never met Gene Heskett. When we will, I guess he will do 80%,
> may be 90% of the talking, unlikely fifty-fifty. I think I will OK
> with the non-balanced dialog, because I knew it from the begining.
> Beside the difference in verboseness between Gene and me, there are lots
> of common goals. For starters "Debian". Gene wrote in mailinglists posts
> about his work as engineer, where he did serious trouble shooting.
And yet. the one time the NAB had their annual broadcasters bash in D/FW 
I discovered I could be arrested in Texas for impersonating an Engineer 
because my business card said I was the CE at WDTV. but I was not a 
degree'd EE. That I'm not, I am a CET, a much more comprehensive final 
exam, we can teach the EE's things their prof's never touched, if the EE 
is willing to learn. Sadly, too many get the sheepskin and then turn off 
the learning because they already know it all. I don't generally waste a 
lot of time with them.

I've had EE's spend the night telling I'm wasting my time, it won't 
work. And are blown away, when I push the final button and it just 
works. I have no idea how many EE's there are here in the states, 
10,000+ probably. There are only around 130 CET's.  Yet I have only an 
8th grade diploma and a GED. Yet I know how simple things work, up to 
and including Einsteins theory's. as demonstrated by the time distortion 
a klystron amplifier does to a tv signal. I had to teach the FCC about 
that back in the '70's.

Computers are 10000000 times more complex.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#267828 — /etc/apt/sources.list example [WAS Re: medically smart watches]

On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 05:16:21AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> On 2/25/24 03:36, Geert Stappers wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 02:05:50PM -0500, Lee wrote:
> > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 12:06 PM gene heskett wrote:
> > > > On 2/24/24 11:03, Loïc Grenié wrote:
> > > > > On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, at 16:03, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >      Greetings all;
<snip>
> > > 
> > > What I'd like to find is software that lets me get the data off the
> > > reader into my PC.
> > 
> > As I see it, is https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser now the best place
> > to go.
> > 
> I have to agree, and pursuing that seems to disclose I do not have the
> non-frre in my configs. So I'm now asking for help to add it to my
> /etc/apt/sources *.list stuff.
> > 

For apt sources.list - have a look at:

https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList

> 
<snip>
> > 
> > > Regards
> > > Lee
> > 
> > Groeten
> > Geert Stappers
> > 
> > About Original Poster:
> > I have never met Gene Heskett. When we will, I guess he will do 80%,
> > may be 90% of the talking, unlikely fifty-fifty. I think I will OK
> > with the non-balanced dialog, because I knew it from the begining.
> > Beside the difference in verboseness between Gene and me, there are lots
> > of common goals. For starters "Debian". Gene wrote in mailinglists posts
> > about his work as engineer, where he did serious trouble shooting.
> And yet. the one time the NAB had their annual broadcasters bash in D/FW I
> discovered I could be arrested in Texas for impersonating an Engineer
> because my business card said I was the CE at WDTV. but I was not a degree'd
> EE. That I'm not, I am a CET, a much more comprehensive final exam, we can
> teach the EE's things their prof's never touched, if the EE is willing to
> learn. Sadly, too many get the sheepskin and then turn off the learning
> because they already know it all. I don't generally waste a lot of time with
> them.
> 
> I've had EE's spend the night telling I'm wasting my time, it won't work.
> And are blown away, when I push the final button and it just works. I have
> no idea how many EE's there are here in the states, 10,000+ probably. There
> are only around 130 CET's.  Yet I have only an 8th grade diploma and a GED.
> Yet I know how simple things work, up to and including Einsteins theory's.
> as demonstrated by the time distortion a klystron amplifier does to a tv
> signal. I had to teach the FCC about that back in the '70's.
> 
> Computers are 10000000 times more complex.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
> -- 
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
>  - Louis D. Brandeis
> 

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#267833 — Re: /etc/apt/sources.list example [WAS Re: medically smart watches]

On 2/25/24 07:14, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

>> I have to agree, and pursuing that seems to disclose I do not have the
>> non-frre in my configs. So I'm now asking for help to add it to my
>> /etc/apt/sources *.list stuff.
>>>
> 
> For apt sources.list - have a look at:
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
> 
Thanks Andy.
>

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#267829

On Sunday 25 February 2024 05:16:21 am gene heskett wrote:
> I have no idea how many EE's there are here in the states, 
> 10,000+ probably. There are only around 130 CET's.

More than that.  My certificate number is PA-230...

-- 
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space,  a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed.  --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James 
M Dakin

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#267834

On 2/25/24 14:19, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> On Sunday 25 February 2024 05:16:21 am gene heskett wrote:
>> I have no idea how many EE's there are here in the states,
>> 10,000+ probably. There are only around 130 CET's.
> 
> More than that.  My certificate number is PA-230...

Mine is NB-116, so they must go by state, NB being Nebraska. Assuming an 
average of 150/state, that would be 7500 of us. Where the heck are they 
hiding? You are the only other one I have met since I got mine in '72. 
Something doesn't add up.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#267837

On Sun 25 Feb 2024 at 18:33:26 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> On 2/25/24 14:19, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > On Sunday 25 February 2024 05:16:21 am gene heskett wrote:
> > > I have no idea how many EE's there are here in the states,
> > > 10,000+ probably. There are only around 130 CET's.
> > 
> > More than that.  My certificate number is PA-230...
> 
> Mine is NB-116, so they must go by state, NB being Nebraska.

Oh, I thought you were going to say you'd taken the examinations
in New Brunswick.

> Something doesn't add up.

Cheers,
David.

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#267868

On Sunday 25 February 2024 06:33:26 pm gene heskett wrote:
> On 2/25/24 14:19, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > On Sunday 25 February 2024 05:16:21 am gene heskett wrote:
> >> I have no idea how many EE's there are here in the states,
> >> 10,000+ probably. There are only around 130 CET's.
> > 
> > More than that.  My certificate number is PA-230...
> 
> Mine is NB-116, so they must go by state, NB being Nebraska. Assuming an 
> average of 150/state, that would be 7500 of us. Where the heck are they 
> hiding? You are the only other one I have met since I got mine in '72. 
> Something doesn't add up.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

Dunno,  maybe ask ISCET?  (Apologies to the rest of you guys for the OT...)

-- 
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space,  a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed.  --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
-
Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James 
M Dakin

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#267799

Dnia 2024-02-24, o godz. 12:06:16
gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> napisał(a):

> On 2/24/24 11:03, Loïc Grenié wrote:
> > On Sat Feb 24th, 2024, at 16:03, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > 
> >     Greetings all;
> > 
> >     As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of
> >     trulicity, a
> >     weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood
> > guclose levels has got us scrambling for alternatives.  So a month
> > back I bought
> >     one of the so called smart watches that purports to monitor
> > blood sugar.
> > 
> > 
> > "purports" appears to be the correct verb
> > https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-communication
> > <https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/do-not-use-smartwatches-or-smart-rings-measure-blood-glucose-levels-fda-safety-communication> 
> I got a msg from our state AG warning me about these, but it was 2
> days after I had ordered this thing. Too little warning, too late,
> but I'm the curios type, and this device looks good so I would like
> to see how it compares with the antique finger prick model we've been
> using since Hector's great grandfather was a puppy.. New tech
> sometimes work pretty good while the FDA seems to try to protect old
> tech.
> >     (as for the rest of the mail, I have no idea whatsoever).
> > 
> >            Loïc  
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

This steers vastly into offtopic but here is a video of someone testing
one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWadFt4vBtY

TL;DR both tested watches were so far off mark they are probably
dangerous.

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#267780

> So the question I'm getting to is: Do we have a utility that can be paired
> with whatever wifi/bluetooth this thing uses and would allow it to work?

With a bit of luck it can be "paired" with your "2TB" SSDs?


        Stefan "sorry, couldn't resist"

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#267782

On 2/24/24 11:15, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> So the question I'm getting to is: Do we have a utility that can be paired
>> with whatever wifi/bluetooth this thing uses and would allow it to work?
> 
> With a bit of luck it can be "paired" with your "2TB" SSDs?
> 
> 
>          Stefan "sorry, couldn't resist"
> 
> .
That category seems to fit both of us. ;o)>

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
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#267790

Hi,

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 10:03:16AM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> As most of you know I'm a DM-II, but the recent shortage of trulicity, a
> weekly self administerd shot that helps regulate one's blood guclose levels
> has got us scrambling for alternatives.  So a month back I bought one of the
> so called smart watches that purports to monitor blood sugar.

I'm having some difficulty translating your words and acronyms but I
think I got the gist that you're type II diabetic and have bought a
watch for glucose monitoring?

I'm also a type II diabetic and am interested in glucose monitoring
but everything I have read about the watches says they are terribly
inaccurate for this. I can't even buy one here in UK because it
would be classed as a medical device, that cannot show it works for
its intended purpose; these things are therefore only available for
grey import.

So I wouldn't bother and I don't intend to help someone do such an
unwise thing even if I had the faintest idea how you would bypass
the phone pairing needs of some random IoT garbage.

As an aside, not even the 2 week sensors that impale your upper arm
and stay affixed are accurate for me, though I know they are for
most as they actually are approved. So it's daily finger prick for
me for the foreseeable.

Thanks,
Andy

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#267839

On Sat, 2024-02-24 at 10:03 -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> [...]
> bluetooth, and It looks as if I have to buy a BT adaptor, so advise on 
> that front would be most welcome also.
> [...]

If you're locking for a bluetooth USB adapter: I have a 'Bluetooth
5.0' adapter from TP-Link which works with Fedora.  I've been able to
use it with a headset and an xbox controller.  A smartphone and an IP
phone also show up as devices, but I haven't tried to use them via
bluetooth.

However, a while ago I found that the xbox controller did have
connection issues in that the connection seemed to get interrupted, so
I went back to using an USB cable.  I'm pretty sure it's a software
problem because it worked fine at first.  I don't know if it's been
fixed since because my workstation only has 4 USB ports of which 3
are occupied and an USB cable extension is plugged into the 4th for
the xbox controller.

How does the watch you got measure blood sugar?  Doesn't that require
a blood sample?

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