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  Esteemed Gentlemen! Richard Bostrom <bostrom.richardh@proton.me> - 2024-07-06 13:20 +0200
    Re: Esteemed Gentlemen! George at Clug <Clug@goproject.info> - 2024-07-06 14:40 +0200
    Re: Esteemed Gentlemen! Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-07-06 16:30 +0200
      Re: Esteemed Gentlemen! Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2024-07-06 17:20 +0200

#270887 — Esteemed Gentlemen!

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Esteemed Gentlemen!

I've removed unattended-upgrades.
However I wish to remove the Software store as well as the Software Update feature. Or at least disable any automatic updates.
Tripwire is useless with automated system updates etc.

Yours sincerely
Richardh Bostrom

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#270888

Richard,

You may know these methods below, but if you do not, then please read on...

If you had not removed unattended-upgrades:
dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades  (select 'no')


Would you be using Gnome? (understand this can be used)

Software
(select menu icon in top right of 'Software' window)
Update Preferences
Automatic Update (set to off)

or
 
https://blogs.gnome.org/kalev/2014/09/24/whats-new-in-gnome-software-3-14/
It’s now possible to disable the background update checks altogether through a hidden setting: ‘gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false’

$ gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false

I hope the above work, I have not used these so as to know if they do or not?

George.




On Saturday, 06-07-2024 at 21:01 Richard Bostrom wrote:
> Esteemed Gentlemen!
> 
> I've removed unattended-upgrades.
> However I wish to remove the Software store as well as the Software Update feature. Or at least disable any automatic updates.
> Tripwire is useless with automated system updates etc.
> 
> Yours sincerely
> Richardh Bostrom

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#270891

On Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 11:01:45 +0000, Richard Bostrom wrote:
> Esteemed Gentlemen!

Dude.  Seriously?  I was milliseconds away from deleting this message
as obvious spam, until I saw the second paragraph.

This message you've written is a golden example of how NOT to choose
a Subject: header, and how NOT to begin a request for help.

> I've removed unattended-upgrades.
> However I wish to remove the Software store as well as the Software Update feature. Or at least disable any automatic updates.

What is a "Software store"?  What "Software Updates feature" are you
seeing?

Are you sure you're even running Debian?  If you're running something
that's "based on Debian", we may not know anything about it.

If you are running Debian, which version of Debian is it, and which
Desktop Environment, if any, are you using?

If what you're seeing is part of some Desktop Environment, then maybe
someone else on this mailing list will recognize it.  The more details you
can provide about it, the better.  Are you seeing log messages indicating
that someting is installing package updates?  If so, which log file are
they in, and most importantly, *exactly what do these messages say*?

> Tripwire is useless with automated system updates etc.

I have to question whether tripwire is more useful than Debian's security
updates.  Though, if your plan is to run "apt update" and "apt upgrade"
by hand, at a time of your choosing, so that you can update tripwire's
state afterward, then that's fine.

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On Sat, Jul 6, 2024, 9:21 AM Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 11:01:45 +0000, Richard Bostrom
>
> > I've removed unattended-upgrades.
>
.....

> > Tripwire is useless with automated system updates etc.
>

I don't follow your logic.
First, I don't necessarily recommend automated system updates.
Second, tripwire has nothing to do with them. You turn off tripwire right
before the upgrade. You rescan afterwards because monitored system files
may have changed. That's what tripwire is for. As stated previously:

Though, if your plan is to run "apt update" and "apt upgrade"
> by hand, at a time of your choosing, so that you can update tripwire's
> state afterward, then that's fine.
>
>

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