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| Started by | Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> |
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| First post | 2024-06-20 13:30 +0200 |
| Last post | 2024-06-23 11:20 +0200 |
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MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+ Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-06-20 13:30 +0200
Re: MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+ Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2024-06-20 14:10 +0200
Re: MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+ Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-06-20 14:10 +0200
Re: MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+ Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2024-06-23 11:20 +0200
| From | Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> |
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| Date | 2024-06-20 13:30 +0200 |
| Subject | MoinMoin wikis and Debian 11+ |
| Message-ID | <IRo9l-4gIi-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes <https://wiki.debian.org/> as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) MoinMoin 1.x requires Python2, and Debian 11 and newer don't have Python2 any more. They only have Python3. Should we install Python 2.x from upstream, build it in /usr/local, figure out all of the modules that are required for MoinMoin, build those as well, and then symlink /usr/bin/python to our local Python2? Or is there some path forward from MoinMoin 1.x to 2.x? (Is MoinMoin 2.x even a functional product?) Or should we burn the entire site down, migrate to some other wiki engine (please gods don't let it need PHP), and start all over? Or should we just keep running Debian 10 past end of life?
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| From | Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> |
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| Date | 2024-06-20 14:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IRoM1-4hag-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270299 |
On 20/06/2024 08:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: > As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering > what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes > <https://wiki.debian.org/> as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) > > MoinMoin 1.x requires Python2, and Debian 11 and newer don't have > Python2 any more. They only have Python3. > > Should we install Python 2.x from upstream, build it in /usr/local, > figure out all of the modules that are required for MoinMoin, build > those as well, and then symlink /usr/bin/python to our local Python2? > > Or is there some path forward from MoinMoin 1.x to 2.x? (Is MoinMoin 2.x > even a functional product?) > > Or should we burn the entire site down, migrate to some other wiki > engine (please gods don't let it need PHP), and start all over? > > Or should we just keep running Debian 10 past end of life? You could run a Docker container with a Debian 10-based system with only what you need for MoinMoin 1.x. At least it is more isolated than installing Python 2.x directly in the system. But it only postpones the problem (an so do other solutions). Eventually you'll need to upgrade to a newer version of MoinMoin or switch to a similar product. I am not familiar with the options, but perhaps another product can import your data. -- BOFH excuse #129: The ring needs another token Eduardo M KALINOWSKI eduardo@kalinowski.com.br
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| From | Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> |
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| Date | 2024-06-20 14:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IRoM1-4hag-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270299 |
Greg Wooledge wrote: > As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering > what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes > <https://wiki.debian.org/> as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) ... > Or should we burn the entire site down, migrate to some other wiki > engine (please gods don't let it need PHP), and start all over? https://gitlab.com/anarcat/moin2iki/ converts moinmoin to ikiwiki. ikiwiki ( https://ikiwiki.info/ ) is written in Perl, not PHP, and is packaged in Debian 12. -dsr-
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| From | Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> |
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| Date | 2024-06-23 11:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ISry9-4Wkb-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270299 |
On 20/06/24 23:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: > As we're nearing the end of life for Debian 10, I'm still wondering > what MoinMoin wiki users are supposed to do. (This includes > <https://wiki.debian.org/> as near as I can see from SystemInfo.) > > MoinMoin 1.x requires Python2, and Debian 11 and newer don't have > Python2 any more. They only have Python3. Interesting. Python Wiki uses MoinMoin too - presumably on an unsupported python ... one might have thought that the python community would have sufficiently motivated python devs to get moin2 sorted. I wonder what their plans are? Richard (who endlessly postpones choosing a wiki due to this and similar issues)
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