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| Started by | Heriberto Avelino <heriberto.avelino@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2024-06-19 17:30 +0200 |
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mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Heriberto Avelino <heriberto.avelino@gmail.com> - 2024-06-19 17:30 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? eben@gmx.us - 2024-06-19 18:00 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-06-19 19:10 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Heriberto Avelino <heriberto.avelino@gmail.com> - 2024-06-19 21:40 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? eben@gmx.us - 2024-06-19 23:10 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-06-20 06:40 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-06-20 07:10 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-06-21 04:20 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-06-21 06:50 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-06-22 05:00 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-06-22 13:50 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-06-22 14:40 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-06-22 15:40 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-06-22 16:00 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-06-22 19:40 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-06-22 22:20 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-06-23 00:40 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-06-23 11:50 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-06-22 19:00 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-06-22 19:20 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-06-22 19:50 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-06-23 18:40 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-06-23 19:20 +0200
Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external hard drive...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-06-23 23:00 +0200
Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-06-24 01:10 +0200
Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external hard drive...) CHRIS M <CHRIS@cwm030.com> - 2024-06-24 04:40 +0200
Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-06-24 04:50 +0200
Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-06-24 05:00 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2024-06-24 17:40 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-06-25 00:00 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-06-22 23:20 +0200
Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-06-22 23:50 +0200
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| From | Heriberto Avelino <heriberto.avelino@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-19 17:30 +0200 |
| Subject | mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell? |
| Message-ID | <IR5q1-44Nw-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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Dear all: Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running Debian in rescue mode? Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode? Many thanks!! Heriberto
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| From | eben@gmx.us |
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| Date | 2024-06-19 18:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IR5T4-44X4-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270259 |
On 6/19/24 11:04, Heriberto Avelino wrote:
> Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the
> computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode?
Is your computer's hard drive is already mounted? Are you comfortable in a
shell?
--
For is it not written, wheresoever two or three are gathered
together, yea they will perform the Parrot Sketch.
-- Rob on ASR
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| From | David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-19 19:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IR6YO-45Ug-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270259 |
On 6/19/24 08:04, Heriberto Avelino wrote:
> Dear all:
> Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running Debian in
> rescue mode?
Yes.
> Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the
> computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode?
> Many thanks!!
> Heriberto
This is how I start a rescue shell using debian-11.9.0-amd64-netboot media:
Debian GNU/Linux installer menu (BIOS mode) -> Advanced options
Advanced options -> Rescue mode
Language -> C
Continent or region -> North America
Country, territory or area -> United States
Keymap -> American English
Hostname -> debianrescue
Domain name -> tracy.holgerdanske.com
Select your time zone -> Pacific
Passphrase for /dev/sda3 -> <empty> -> Continue
Device to use as a root file system -> Do not use a root file system
Rescue operations -> Execute a shell in the installer environment
Executing a shell -> Continue
Once busybox(1) is running, you can issue mount(8) and cp(1) commands
similar to using a shell.
David
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| From | Heriberto Avelino <heriberto.avelino@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-19 21:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IR9jY-47eg-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270259 |
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Thanks Eben and David! I am now on a shell (BusyBox v.35.0 Debian 1:1.35.0-4+b3) I don't see the mounting points to execute cp. There is nothing under media nor root; under usr I can see only: bin lib local sbin share. Where are the internal h-drive and the external? I would very much appreciate your further help. Who could have envisioned a community like this back in the 80's? This is great! Heriberto On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 9:04 AM Heriberto Avelino < heriberto.avelino@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all: > Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running Debian in > rescue mode? > Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the > computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode? > Many thanks!! > Heriberto >
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| From | eben@gmx.us |
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| Date | 2024-06-19 23:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IRaJ4-48cY-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270268 |
On 6/19/24 15:23, Heriberto Avelino wrote: > I am now on a shell (BusyBox v.35.0 Debian 1:1.35.0-4+b3) > There is nothing under media nor root Things mounted by the system would probably show up under /media or /mnt . > Where are the internal h-drive and the external? To mount those you need the device names. Perhaps you'd be better off with a graphical file manager. -- And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear You shout and no one seems to hear And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes I'll see you on th dark side of the moon -- PF, "Brain Damage", _DSotM_
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2024-06-20 06:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IRhKx-4cJS-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270268 |
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On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 01:23:01PM -0600, Heriberto Avelino wrote: > Thanks Eben and David! > I am now on a shell (BusyBox v.35.0 Debian 1:1.35.0-4+b3) > I don't see the mounting points to execute cp. As far as I know, you have dmesg in the rescue shell. So the way to go would be: - insert your external disc - wait a second or two for things to settle - issue "dmesg | tail" - you'll see your kernel recognising external media and trying to make sense of it. Here's an example: ====================================================== tomas@caliban:~$ sudo dmesg | tail [ 1124.990155] scsi host2: usb-storage 2-6:1.0 [ 1126.811573] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access USB DISK PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 6 [ 1126.812188] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 [ 1126.814169] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 30310400 512-byte logical blocks: (15.5 GB/14.5 GiB) [ 1126.814602] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [ 1126.814613] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00 [ 1126.814788] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found [ 1126.814796] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1126.820398] sdb: sdb1 [ 1126.820515] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk ====================================================== This was me inserting a DOS partitioned stick with one primary partition (sdb1). Therefore, the block device will appear as /dev/sdb1. Your mileage will almost certainly vary. Now you can, e.g. say mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt The kernel will try to auto-detect which file system is on your partition. You can, of course, choose another mount point than /mnt -- it has just to be some directory. Its contents, if any, will be shadowed by your new file system and won't be accessible as long as the mount is in effect. From here on you can use mv, cp, whatever. Whenever copying lots of stuff recursively, the option "-a" to cp comes in handy. > There is nothing under media nor root; under usr I can see only: bin lib > local sbin share. Your rescue system is very bare-bones: it won't do automounting for you, etc. I think that makes sense. > Where are the internal h-drive and the external? > I would very much appreciate your further help. I hope the above description gets you started. In case of doubt, just ask :) > Who could have envisioned a community like this back in the 80's? This is > great! It is, yes. I'm very thankful for that. Cheers -- t
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| From | David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-20 07:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IRidz-4dak-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270268 |
On 6/19/24 12:23, Heriberto Avelino wrote: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 9:04 AM Heriberto Avelino wrote: >> Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running Debian in >> rescue mode? >> Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the >> computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode? > Thanks Eben and David! > I am now on a shell (BusyBox v.35.0 Debian 1:1.35.0-4+b3) > I don't see the mounting points to execute cp. > There is nothing under media nor root; under usr I can see only: bin > lib local sbin share. > Where are the internal h-drive and the external? > I would very much appreciate your further help. > Who could have envisioned a community like this back in the 80's? This > is great! > Heriberto We are glad to help. :-) On Debian GNU/Linux, SATA drives (internal and external) should have special files (device nodes) under /dev. You can use the ls(1) command and a glob pattern to find them: ~ # ls /dev/sd? /dev/sda You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. For example, here is the drive containing Debian in the computer I am using now: ~ # fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 55.9 GiB, 60022480896 bytes, 117231408 sectors Disk model: INTEL SSDSC2CW06 Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x544032f5 Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sda1 * 2048 1953791 1951744 953M 83 Linux /dev/sda2 1953792 3907583 1953792 954M 83 Linux /dev/sda3 3907584 29298687 25391104 12.1G 83 Linux /dev/sda4 29298688 117229567 87930880 41.9G 83 Linux Partitions can contain one of several things. One possibility is a file system. I keep detailed records on all of my OS's and drives, so I know what is what. Figuring out the contents of an unknown drive using the Debian rescue shell is possible, but requires more knowledge and effort. Using a live Linux distribution instead of the Debian rescue shell can make such tasks easier. I install Debian onto a SATA SSD via a USB-SATA adapter cable for this purpose. Once you have identified the device node of a partition that contains the file system that you want to read and/or write, you must mount the file system. The first step is to create a mount point with mkdir(1): ~ # mkdir /scratch The second step is to mount the file system with mount(8): ~ # mount /dev/sda4 /scratch Repeat the above process to mount any additional file systems that you want to read and/or write. One the file system(s) are mounted, you can read and/or write files and/or directories. For example, you can use cp(1) to copy files from an internal drive to an external drive. "Learning the Unix Operating System" is a good book for learning how to use Unix/ Linux from the command line: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/learning-the-unix/0596002610/ "UNIX and Linux System Administration Handbook" is a good book for learning how to administer Unix/ Linux from the command line: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/unix-and-linux/9780134278308/ "Design of the UNIX Operating System" is a good book for understanding how Unix worked around the time Linux Torvalds wrote Linux: https://www.pearson.com/en-us/subject-catalog/p/design-of-the-unix-operating-system/P200000009243/9780132017992 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds David
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| From | Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-21 04:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IRC2B-4pu6-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270287 |
On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: > You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. lsblk --fs perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of drives.
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| From | David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-21 06:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IREnL-4qSO-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270327 |
On 6/20/24 19:10, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: >> You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. > > lsblk --fs > > perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of drives. The debian-11.9.0-amd64-netinst rescue shell does not include lsblk(8): ~ # lsblk /bin/sh: lsblk: not found David
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| From | Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-22 05:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IRZ8R-4DXu-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270337 |
On 21/06/2024 11:39, David Christensen wrote: > On 6/20/24 19:10, Max Nikulin wrote: >> On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote: >>> You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive. >> >> lsblk --fs >> >> perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of drives. > > The debian-11.9.0-amd64-netinst rescue shell does not include lsblk(8): My bad, I missed that the topic is specific to installer rescue mode. I usually boot a live image for rescue. It is more convenient: more tools are available or can be temporary installed, a browser may be used to search for failure details. A possible downside is enabling of found swap partitions and automounting of removable drives.
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> |
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| Date | 2024-06-22 13:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IS7pL-4Jav-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270352 |
On 06/21/2024 09:59 PM, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 21/06/2024 11:39, David Christensen wrote:
>> On 6/20/24 19:10, Max Nikulin wrote:
>>> On 20/06/2024 12:06, David Christensen wrote:
>>>> You can use the fdisk(8) command to list the partitions on a drive.
>>>
>>> lsblk --fs
>>>
>>> perhaps with "-o +SIZE" may be more convenient to get overview of
>>> drives.
>>
>> The debian-11.9.0-amd64-netinst rescue shell does not include lsblk(8):
>
> My bad, I missed that the topic is specific to installer rescue mode. I
> usually boot a live image for rescue. It is more convenient: more tools
> are available or can be temporary installed, a browser may be used to
> search for failure details. A possible downside is enabling of found
> swap partitions and automounting of removable drives.
>
>
Thank you for reminding me of live images just now. Perfect timing.
I have an i386 machine with some atypical constraints.
https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ states only amd64 images are currently
available.
Questions:
1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive?
2. I have a working machine that will take a current full install
of an i386 system. Can an average user create his own i386 live
install image?
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| From | "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2024-06-22 14:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IS8c9-4JGs-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270365 |
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? I guess: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/11.9.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ At least the pages for archived Live ISOs for Debian 12 list no i386 any more: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/12.1.0-live/ > 2. I have a working machine that will take a current full install > of an i386 system. Can an average user create his own i386 live > install image? Well, there is the manual https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/index.en.html The section "4.2 First steps: building an ISO hybrid image" looks like you could get a quick ride. https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/the-basics.en.html#170 "execute the following sequence of live-build commands to create a basic ISO hybrid image containing a default live system without X.org." If it doesn't work, then debian-live@lists.debian.org would be the list to ask for help. Have a nice day :) Thomas
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> |
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| Date | 2024-06-22 15:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IS98d-4Kg7-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270366 |
On 06/22/2024 07:39 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Richard Owlett wrote: >> 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? > > I guess: > https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/11.9.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ That solves a plethora of problems! Thank you. > At least the pages for archived Live ISOs for Debian 12 list no i386 > any more: > https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/12.1.0-live/ > > >> 2. I have a working machine that will take a current full install >> of an i386 system. Can an average user create his own i386 live >> install image? > > Well, there is the manual > https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/index.en.html Reviewing table of contents indicate that sections 8, 9, and 10 have answers to questions I didn't know _how_ to ask ;} > The section "4.2 First steps: building an ISO hybrid image" looks like > you could get a quick ride. > https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/the-basics.en.html#170 Looks doable. At least I'll learn enough to ask answerable questions. > "execute the following sequence of live-build commands to create a basic > ISO hybrid image containing a default live system without X.org." > > If it doesn't work, then debian-live@lists.debian.org would be the list > to ask for help. > > > Have a nice day :) With your reading list it should be educational. Thanks again. > > Thomas > >
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| From | Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> |
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| Date | 2024-06-22 16:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IS9rz-4Kn1-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270365 |
Hi, On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 06:43:04AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Questions: > 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? > 2. I have a working machine that will take a current full install > of an i386 system. Can an average user create his own i386 live > install image? Before you spend too much time on this, do be aware that Debian is dropping i686 as an install architecture. There won't be installers for i686 in future releases of Debian. You will only be able to run i686 packages as a foreign arch on a machine booted with an amd64 kernel (or via virtualisation methods). Building your own live images for amd64 and other supported architectures is still pretty easy though. Thanks, Andy > -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> |
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| Date | 2024-06-22 19:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IScSt-4Mz4-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270368 |
On 06/22/2024 08:55 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 06:43:04AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >> Questions: >> 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? >> 2. I have a working machine that will take a current full install >> of an i386 system. Can an average user create his own i386 live >> install image? > > Before you spend too much time on this, do be aware that Debian is > dropping i686 as an install architecture. There won't be installers > for i686 in future releases of Debian. You will only be able to run > i686 packages as a foreign arch on a machine booted with an amd64 > kernel (or via virtualisation methods). > > Building your own live images for amd64 and other supported > architectures is still pretty easy though. > > Thanks, > Andy > *ROFL* When I was an E.E. undergrad CPUs had 12AX7s and I/O devices included 026 and KSR35. Analog hardware was more interesting than new-fangled digital stuff [have one of my father's CK722's around somewhere]. I ask about i386 Debian Live because I have a fine operational Sony laptop that currently runs Debian 9.0 and has a $20 price tag on its bottom. This machine has option to boot Debian 11 with an AMD64 kernel. I routinely run Debian 9.13 because its configuration is comfortable (i.e. useful). I have 2 other laptops which will have something >= Debian 12 before I abandon this machine. Will I outlive Debian 11/12? [My parents married day before Pearl Harbor ;]
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| From | David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-22 22:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ISfnj-4OdL-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270383 |
On 6/22/24 10:37, Richard Owlett wrote: > I ask about i386 Debian Live because I have a fine operational Sony > laptop that currently runs Debian 9.0 and has a $20 price tag on its > bottom. > > This machine has option to boot Debian 11 with an AMD64 kernel. > I routinely run Debian 9.13 because its configuration is comfortable > (i.e. useful). > > I have 2 other laptops which will have something >= Debian 12 before I > abandon this machine. On 6/22/24 10:49, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/22/2024 12:13 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> On 6/22/24 09:57, David Christensen wrote: >>> Rather than creating a customized Debian Live image, I install >>> Debian onto a USB flash drive or onto a 2.5" SATA SSD connected via >>> a USB-SATA adapter cable: >> >> +1 >> >> It's pretty easy to make a simple Debian install on some old USB key >> you have lying around and it comes really handy. > > Relevant laptop is so old I don't know if it can boot from a physical > USB device. I was suspecting that simplest thing would be copying > suitable image to hard drive and let GRUB earn its keep ;} So, the Sony laptop has Debian 9.13 i386 installed on the HDD/SSD? Debian 9 LTS support ended on 01 Jul 2022: https://endoflife.date/debian If the Sony laptop can boot Debian 11 amd64 via CD, it should be able to boot an amd64 OS via USB. I suggest copying debian-12.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso to a USB flash drive and trying to boot it. If it works, you can decide if you want to use d-i, if you want to burn a live distribution to a USB device, and/or if you want to install Debian onto a USB device. David
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| From | Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> |
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| Date | 2024-06-23 00:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IShyO-4Py4-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270383 |
Hi, On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Will I outlive Debian 11/12? Well we're only talking a small single digit number of years here, so I hope you have reason to be optimistic. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
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| From | "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-23 11:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ISs1b-4Wuy-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270390 |
On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 10:38:29PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Will I outlive Debian 11/12? > > Well we're only talking a small single digit number of years here, > so I hope you have reason to be optimistic. > A colleague who is 14 years older than me was discussing this. Apparently your odds of surviving another year are > 50% until the age of 94 or so whereupon they start to go down fairly drastically :) All best Andy (amacater@debian.org) > Thanks, > Andy > > -- > https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting >
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| From | David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> |
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| Date | 2024-06-22 19:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IScfL-4M6t-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270365 |
On 6/22/24 04:43, Richard Owlett wrote: > Thank you for reminding me of live images just now. Perfect timing. > I have an i386 machine with some atypical constraints. > https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ states only amd64 images are currently > available. > > Questions: > 1. What is latest i386 live image available in some archive? > 2. I have a working machine that will take a current full install > of an i386 system. Can an average user create his own i386 live > install image? Rather than creating a customized Debian Live image, I install Debian onto a USB flash drive or onto a 2.5" SATA SSD connected via a USB-SATA adapter cable: https://www.startech.com/en-us/hdd/usb3s2sat3cb Installing Debian onto a USB device allows me to choose the tasks I want at install time and then to add, remove, update, upgrade, etc., the packages I want later. I load the USB Debian instances with all of my favorite Unix/ Linux/ Debian trouble-shooting tools, plus my own scripts. My Debian 11 amd64 BIOS/MBR USB instance works on all of my amd64 BIOS/MBR computers and works on most of my EUFI/GPT computers when set to BIOS/MBR mode. My Debian 11 am64 UEFI/GPT USB instance was created on a Windows 10 era machine with UEFI/GPT and only works on similar machines with similar settings. David
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| From | Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> |
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| Date | 2024-06-22 19:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <IScz8-4MsU-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #270381 |
> Rather than creating a customized Debian Live image, I install Debian onto
> a USB flash drive or onto a 2.5" SATA SSD connected via a USB-SATA adapter
> cable:
+1
It's pretty easy to make a simple Debian install on some old USB key you
have lying around and it comes really handy.
Stefan
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