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  Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-02 20:10 +0200
    Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size eben@gmx.us - 2024-06-02 20:40 +0200
      Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-02 20:50 +0200
        Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-02 21:00 +0200
        [ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text  Size Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-02 22:00 +0200
          Re: [ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-02 22:30 +0200
            Re: [ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-02 23:20 +0200
    Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-02 21:10 +0200
      [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text  Size Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-02 22:10 +0200
    Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2024-06-02 21:10 +0200
      Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-06-02 21:50 +0200
        [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text  Size Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-02 22:20 +0200
          SeaMonkey et al - was - Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd (  Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-02 22:50 +0200
            Re: SeaMonkey et al - was - Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd  ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-02 23:20 +0200
          Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2024-06-03 18:20 +0200
            Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-03 20:20 +0200
              Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 20:30 +0200
              Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-06-03 20:40 +0200
            Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-03 21:10 +0200
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                Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-03 22:40 +0200
              Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-06-06 18:10 +0200
            WAS: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ).. NOW~~The  dangers of .mbox mail clients? Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-03 21:10 +0200
              Response to email clients query regarding mbox Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-03 21:20 +0200
                Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-03 21:30 +0200
                  Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-03 22:00 +0200
                    Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-03 22:40 +0200
                      Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-03 23:10 +0200
                    Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox fxkl47BF@protonmail.com - 2024-06-03 23:10 +0200
                  Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-03 22:10 +0200
              Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-06-03 21:40 +0200
                Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients? Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-04 00:20 +0200
              Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 04:30 +0200
            Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size eben@gmx.us - 2024-06-03 21:30 +0200
              Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-03 21:50 +0200
                Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size eben@gmx.us - 2024-06-03 22:40 +0200
                  Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-06-03 23:40 +0200
                Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-06-04 00:20 +0200
              Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...  Text Size Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-06-04 00:50 +0200
            Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 04:40 +0200
              Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-06-04 05:00 +0200
      [ SOLVED ] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text  Size Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> - 2024-06-02 22:00 +0200
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#269896 — Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

debian-user@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> wrote:
>> I love Evolution and Claws to a point. Its a PITA to forward emails
>> with HTML in them, like the Informed Delivery email I get each morning
>> letting us know whats coming in the USPS that day.
> Claws forwards mails with a text/html part just fine. What's your actual
> problem with it?
>
>

When the recipient gets the email it looks jumbled and like the days 
USPS mail scans are at the very bottom of the email. instead of under 
the right headers
  Its very weird looking. I would just about have to show you for you to 
get it.

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#269960 — Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

On 2024-06-03, Chris M <CHRIS@CWM030.COM> wrote:
>
> Thunderbird is the name of a cheap wine?
>

A mutt is a mongrel dog, if that adds anything to the conversation.

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#269886 — WAS: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ).. NOW~~The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox 
format to store emails.
It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client.

Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the mailbox a 
certain size?
or a certain amount of emails per folder etc?

The last client I used, before I went FULL TIME LINUX, was Eudora 7.1 on 
Windows 10. And you had
to keep the .mbx files TINY TINY TINY or else, you'd face corruption.

I always go offline, and then compact my folders after I get done 
reading emails.

Right now my "2024 Archives" folder is at:

Number Of Messages: 4776

Size: 300 MB

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CHRIS

CHRIS@CWM030.COM

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#269888 — Response to email clients query regarding mbox

On 4/6/24 03:08, Chris M wrote:
> I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox 
> format to store emails.
> It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client.
> 
> Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the mailbox a 
> certain size?
> or a certain amount of emails per folder etc?
> 
> The last client I used, before I went FULL TIME LINUX, was Eudora 7.1 on 
> Windows 10. And you had
> to keep the .mbx files TINY TINY TINY or else, you'd face corruption.
> 
> I always go offline, and then compact my folders after I get done 
> reading emails.
> 
> Right now my "2024 Archives" folder is at:
> 
> Number Of Messages: 4776
> 
> Size: 300 MB
> 

I do not know about the mbox file format in email applications, but, if 
you want a powerful email client, as I believe that I have previously 
stated, I use, for downloading, storing, and, archiving email, the most 
powerful email client that I have found - alpine, previously known as pine.

The folder properties for the applicable stored messages folder, show
"Total count of files: 13720
Total size of files: 24.5GB"

I think that I have a couple of hundred filters (it could be more), 
involving some thousands of filter parameter field values.



....
Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.................

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#269890 — Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

Bret Busby wrote:
> On 4/6/24 03:08, Chris M wrote:
>> I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox 
>> format to store emails.
>> It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client.
>>
>> Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the 
>> mailbox a certain size?
>> or a certain amount of emails per folder etc?
>>
>> The last client I used, before I went FULL TIME LINUX, was Eudora 7.1 
>> on Windows 10. And you had
>> to keep the .mbx files TINY TINY TINY or else, you'd face corruption.
>>
>> I always go offline, and then compact my folders after I get done 
>> reading emails.
>>
>> Right now my "2024 Archives" folder is at:
>>
>> Number Of Messages: 4776
>>
>> Size: 300 MB
>>
>
> I do not know about the mbox file format in email applications, but, 
> if you want a powerful email client, as I believe that I have 
> previously stated, I use, for downloading, storing, and, archiving 
> email, the most powerful email client that I have found - alpine, 
> previously known as pine.
>
> The folder properties for the applicable stored messages folder, show
> "Total count of files: 13720
> Total size of files: 24.5GB"
>
> I think that I have a couple of hundred filters (it could be more), 
> involving some thousands of filter parameter field values.
>
>
>
> ....
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> Western Australia
> (UTC+0800)
> .................
>
>
Hi Bret,

I just googled Alpine and, as y'all say in Australia... CRIKEY! its a 
Terminal Email client that uses IMAP. interesting.


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CHRIS

CHRIS@CWM030.COM

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~~* Q4OS Trinity Edition* ~~

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#269893 — Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

On 4/6/24 03:26, Chris M wrote:
> Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 4/6/24 03:08, Chris M wrote:
>>> I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox 
>>> format to store emails.
>>> It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client.
>>>
>>> Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the 
>>> mailbox a certain size?
>>> or a certain amount of emails per folder etc?
>>>
>>> The last client I used, before I went FULL TIME LINUX, was Eudora 7.1 
>>> on Windows 10. And you had
>>> to keep the .mbx files TINY TINY TINY or else, you'd face corruption.
>>>
>>> I always go offline, and then compact my folders after I get done 
>>> reading emails.
>>>
>>> Right now my "2024 Archives" folder is at:
>>>
>>> Number Of Messages: 4776
>>>
>>> Size: 300 MB
>>>
>>
>> I do not know about the mbox file format in email applications, but, 
>> if you want a powerful email client, as I believe that I have 
>> previously stated, I use, for downloading, storing, and, archiving 
>> email, the most powerful email client that I have found - alpine, 
>> previously known as pine.
>>
>> The folder properties for the applicable stored messages folder, show
>> "Total count of files: 13720
>> Total size of files: 24.5GB"
>>
>> I think that I have a couple of hundred filters (it could be more), 
>> involving some thousands of filter parameter field values.
>>
>>
>>
>> ....
>> Bret Busby
>> Armadale
>> Western Australia
>> (UTC+0800)
>> .................
>>
>>
> Hi Bret,
> 
> I just googled Alpine and, as y'all say in Australia... CRIKEY! its a 
> Terminal Email client that uses IMAP. interesting.
> 
> 

And, in goggling alpine

"
Alpine supports IMAP, POP, SMTP, NNTP and LDAP protocols natively. 
Although it does not support composing HTML email, it can display emails 
that only have HTML content as text. Alpine can read and write to 
folders in several formats, including Maildir, mbox, the mh format used 
by the mh message handling system, mbx, and MIX.
"
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_(email_client)

So, it appears to be able to deal with your mbox thingy.

alpine is available through synaptic, if you want to try it, and, the 
alpine mailing list includes the current named developer, and, others 
who are highly knowledgeable of alpine.

And, alpine's predecessor, pine, has been around, and usable, since 
before the Internet.

My current alpine email archive goes back more than 20 years. I was 
using pine (and elm) on an IBM 3081 mainframe, in the early 1990's.

....
Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.................

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#269898 — Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

Bret Busby wrote:
> alpine is available through synaptic, if you want to try it,

Hi Bret,

So you use POP 3 too huh, if your archive goes back 20 years?

I installed ALPINE and couldn't get it to connect to my server. I just 
kept getting " INVALID PASSWORD"

Even though I watched a Youtube video and followed their directions to a T.

imap.fastmail.com/ssl/user=chris

I tried with an app password, still errored.

Then I tried:

imap.fastmail.com/ssl/user=chris@cwm030.com

used the same app password

FAILED.

Tried typing the password in manually.

FAILED.

Then I tried imap.fastmail.com/ssl/user=FASTMAILUSERNAME

Typed in password.

FAILED

Then I tried imap.fastmail.com/ssl/user=FMUSERNAME@FASTMAIL.COM

Typed in password by hand

FAILED.

* shrugs*

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CHRIS

CHRIS@CWM030.COM

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#269903 — Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

On 4/6/24 04:34, Chris M wrote:
> Bret Busby wrote:
>> alpine is available through synaptic, if you want to try it,
> 
> Hi Bret,
> 
> So you use POP 3 too huh, if your archive goes back 20 years?
> 
> I installed ALPINE and couldn't get it to connect to my server. I just 
> kept getting " INVALID PASSWORD"
> 
> Even though I watched a Youtube video and followed their directions to a T.
> 
> imap.fastmail.com/ssl/user=chris
> 
> I tried with an app password, still errored.
> 
> Then I tried:
> 
> imap.fastmail.com/ssl/user=chris@cwm030.com
> 
> used the same app password
> 
> FAILED.
> 
> Tried typing the password in manually.
> 
> FAILED.
> 
> Then I tried imap.fastmail.com/ssl/user=FASTMAILUSERNAME
> 
> Typed in password.
> 
> FAILED
> 
> Then I tried imap.fastmail.com/ssl/user=FMUSERNAME@FASTMAIL.COM
> 
> Typed in password by hand
> 
> FAILED.
> 
> * shrugs*
> 

Here is a suggestion for you...

1. Visit http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info

2. Subscribe.

3. Forward the above message to the list, and ask why you cannot log in.

:)

Oh, and, let us know the outcome...

....
Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.................

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#269904 — Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

On Tue, 4 Jun 2024, Bret Busby wrote:

> On 4/6/24 03:26, Chris M wrote:
>> Bret Busby wrote:
>>> On 4/6/24 03:08, Chris M wrote:
>>>> I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox
>>>> format to store emails.
>>>> It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the
>>>> mailbox a certain size?
>>>> or a certain amount of emails per folder etc?
>>>>
>>>> The last client I used, before I went FULL TIME LINUX, was Eudora 7.1
>>>> on Windows 10. And you had
>>>> to keep the .mbx files TINY TINY TINY or else, you'd face corruption.
>>>>
>>>> I always go offline, and then compact my folders after I get done
>>>> reading emails.
>>>>
>>>> Right now my "2024 Archives" folder is at:
>>>>
>>>> Number Of Messages: 4776
>>>>
>>>> Size: 300 MB
>>>>
>>>
>>> I do not know about the mbox file format in email applications, but,
>>> if you want a powerful email client, as I believe that I have
>>> previously stated, I use, for downloading, storing, and, archiving
>>> email, the most powerful email client that I have found - alpine,
>>> previously known as pine.
>>>
>>> The folder properties for the applicable stored messages folder, show
>>> "Total count of files: 13720
>>> Total size of files: 24.5GB"
>>>
>>> I think that I have a couple of hundred filters (it could be more),
>>> involving some thousands of filter parameter field values.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ....
>>> Bret Busby
>>> Armadale
>>> Western Australia
>>> (UTC+0800)
>>> .................
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Bret,
>>
>> I just googled Alpine and, as y'all say in Australia... CRIKEY! its a
>> Terminal Email client that uses IMAP. interesting.
>>
>>
>
> And, in goggling alpine
>
> "
> Alpine supports IMAP, POP, SMTP, NNTP and LDAP protocols natively.
> Although it does not support composing HTML email, it can display emails
> that only have HTML content as text. Alpine can read and write to
> folders in several formats, including Maildir, mbox, the mh format used
> by the mh message handling system, mbx, and MIX.
> "
> - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_(email_client)
>
> So, it appears to be able to deal with your mbox thingy.
>
> alpine is available through synaptic, if you want to try it, and, the
> alpine mailing list includes the current named developer, and, others
> who are highly knowledgeable of alpine.
>
> And, alpine's predecessor, pine, has been around, and usable, since
> before the Internet.
>
> My current alpine email archive goes back more than 20 years. I was
> using pine (and elm) on an IBM 3081 mainframe, in the early 1990's.

i started using pine in the 90's on hpux
still using alpine and no problems

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#269895 — Re: Response to email clients query regarding mbox

On 4/6/24 03:26, Chris M wrote:

<snip>

> Hi Bret,
> 
> I just googled Alpine and, as y'all say in Australia... CRIKEY! i

Funnily enough, I do not remember  hearing anyone in Australia, say 
"crikey".

Maybe some do, in the eastern states, but, I do not remember hearing the 
word (if it is a real word) being spoken, or, written, other it than 
being the name of an online political web site.

....
Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.................

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#269891 — Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

Chris M composed on 2024-06-03 14:08 (UTC-0500):

> Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the mailbox a 
> certain size?
> or a certain amount of emails per folder etc?
...
> I always go offline, and then compact my folders after I get done 
> reading emails.

In SM at least, since I've only ever used it and its ancestors, deleting an email
merely copies a "deleted" email to the Trash "folder", and marks its source that
it's been "deleted" so that it becomes invisible in the mailnews reader. It's the
compacting process that actually frees disk space by removing the "deleted"
emails. IOW, "deleting" an email roughly doubles the disk space it consumes until
such time as compacting its source occurs, when both copies get removed from the
storage system.

As I'm up 24/7, I never bother going "offline" in SM.
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
	based on faith, not based on science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata

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#269909 — Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

Felix Miata wrote:
> As I'm up 24/7, I never bother going "offline" in SM. 


What I meant was, I always click in SM:

File > Offline > Work Offline

That way SM isn't doing anything in the background while I am compacting 
folders. OLD bad habit, I know.


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CHRIS

CHRIS@CWM030.COM

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#269937 — Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

On 04/06/2024 02:08, Chris M wrote:
> I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox 
> format to store emails.
> It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client.

You may configure local IMAP server (e.g. dovecot) to store your 
archive. It allows to avoid issues with variations of mbox formats 
across mail user agents. Perhaps it is reasonable to disable message 
caching in mail client for the local IMAP server to avoid another copies 
of messages on disk.

On the other hand IMAP offline cache for remote servers allows to work 
with messages when network is unavailable.

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#269889 — Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
> (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air Force named
> its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine)

The USAF Thunderbirds predate Gallo Thunderbird by at least a year.  They
were founded in 1953, and the law allowing Gallo Thunderbird's creation
wasn't passed until the next year.  The wine was certainly out by 1957.  The
Ford Thunderbird _might_ predate the wine, since it came out in 1955.  The
email client though, no excuse for that one.

https://drunkard.com/whats-the-word-thunderbird/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbird_(wine)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force_Thunderbirds

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Thunderbird

--
When I were a lad, if grandpa caught us double sigging,
    it's be straight to bed with no bread and butter
                after a good thrashing.
     -- Peter Radcliffe on ASR

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#269892 — Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

On 4/6/24 03:25, eben@gmx.us wrote:
> On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
>> (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air Force 
>> named
>> its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine)
> 
> The USAF Thunderbirds predate Gallo Thunderbird by at least a year.  They
> were founded in 1953, and the law allowing Gallo Thunderbird's creation
> wasn't passed until the next year.  The wine was certainly out by 1957.  
> The
> Ford Thunderbird _might_ predate the wine, since it came out in 1955.  The
> email client though, no excuse for that one.
> 

But, do any of them, predate the real Thunderbirds, with Lady Penelope?

....
Bret Busby
Armadale
Western Australia
(UTC+0800)
.................

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#269897 — Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

On 6/3/24 15:45, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 4/6/24 03:25, eben@gmx.us wrote:
>> On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
>>> (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air Force
>>> named its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine)
>>
>> The USAF Thunderbirds predate Gallo Thunderbird by at least a year.
>> They were founded in 1953, and the law allowing Gallo Thunderbird's
>> creation wasn't passed until the next year.  The wine was certainly out
>> by 1957. The Ford Thunderbird _might_ predate the wine, since it came
>> out in 1955.  The email client though, no excuse for that one.
>>
>
> But, do any of them, predate the real Thunderbirds, with Lady Penelope?

You mean this series?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbirds_(TV_series)

Looks like it came out in 1964, so the USAF team, wine, and car did.  It's
probable Gallo Thunderbird was fairly unknown in 1960s UK, so they're off
the hook.

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#269906 — Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

On 4/6/24 04:30, eben@gmx.us wrote:
> On 6/3/24 15:45, Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 4/6/24 03:25, eben@gmx.us wrote:
>>> On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
>>>> (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air Force
>>>> named its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine)
>>>
>>> The USAF Thunderbirds predate Gallo Thunderbird by at least a year.
>>> They were founded in 1953, and the law allowing Gallo Thunderbird's
>>> creation wasn't passed until the next year.  The wine was certainly out
>>> by 1957. The Ford Thunderbird _might_ predate the wine, since it came
>>> out in 1955.  The email client though, no excuse for that one.
>>>
>>
>> But, do any of them, predate the real Thunderbirds, with Lady Penelope?
> 
> You mean this series?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbirds_(TV_series)
> 
"Supermarionation"

?

A country of Super Mario's?

ARRRRRRGH!


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#269908 — Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 03:45:11AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 4/6/24 03:25, eben@gmx.us wrote:
> > On 6/3/24 12:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
> > > (who still hasn't figured out why Ford named a car, and the Air
> > > Force named
> > > its demonstration team, after that same cheap wine)
> > 
> > The USAF Thunderbirds predate Gallo Thunderbird by at least a year.  They
> > were founded in 1953, and the law allowing Gallo Thunderbird's creation
> > wasn't passed until the next year.  The wine was certainly out by 1957.
> > The
> > Ford Thunderbird _might_ predate the wine, since it came out in 1955.  The
> > email client though, no excuse for that one.
> > 
> 
> But, do any of them, predate the real Thunderbirds, with Lady Penelope?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbird_(mythology)

  The thunderbird is a legendary creature particular to North American
  indigenous peoples' history and culture. It is considered a supernatural
  being of power and strength.

I'm pretty sure this one wins the age contest.

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#269911 — Re: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic... Text Size

On Mon, 3 Jun 2024 15:25:12 -0400
eben@gmx.us wrote:

> The USAF Thunderbirds predate Gallo Thunderbird by at least a year.
> They were founded in 1953, and the law allowing Gallo Thunderbird's
> creation wasn't passed until the next year.  The wine was certainly
> out by 1957.  The Ford Thunderbird _might_ predate the wine, since it
> came out in 1955.  The email client though, no excuse for that one.

Possibly sore or all of the various Thunderbirds out there were named
for the Native American mythological creatures called thunderbirds.


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#269915 — Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ) topic...

On 03/06/2024 23:10, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
> In my experience, T-Bird is the worst email reader I've ever used . . . 
> except for *every other* email reader (without a single exception) I've 
> tried. I'm particularly irritated with those that have no way to disable 
> HTML rendering, and those that have no way to send properly formatted 
> plain-text-only emails, those that try to trick you into top-posting

When I read this first time I decided that the complains applies to 
thunderbird as well. In thunderbird it is configurable. However I admit 
that some complications may exist depending on precise definition of 
"properly formatted plain-text-only emails".

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