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D12 Installer does not recognize rtl8xxxu wifi

Started byFelix Natter <fnatter@gmx.net>
First post2024-02-08 19:30 +0100
Last post2024-02-10 15:30 +0100
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  D12 Installer does not recognize rtl8xxxu wifi Felix Natter <fnatter@gmx.net> - 2024-02-08 19:30 +0100
    Re: D12 Installer does not recognize rtl8xxxu wifi Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-02-08 20:10 +0100
      Re: D12 Installer does not recognize rtl8xxxu wifi Felix Natter <fnatter@gmx.net> - 2024-02-10 15:30 +0100
    Re: D12 Installer does not recognize rtl8xxxu wifi Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-02-08 21:30 +0100
      Re: D12 Installer does not recognize rtl8xxxu wifi Felix Natter <fnatter@gmx.net> - 2024-02-10 15:30 +0100

#267146 — D12 Installer does not recognize rtl8xxxu wifi

FromFelix Natter <fnatter@gmx.net>
Date2024-02-08 19:30 +0100
SubjectD12 Installer does not recognize rtl8xxxu wifi
Message-ID<I5hjQ-8Naw-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
Dear debian-users,

I put this on a stick and booted it:
debian-live-12.4.0-amd64-gnome.iso

When I boot the live option, the network is immediately loaded and I can
connect to a WIFI network. However, if I use the same stick
(or one with debian 12.4.0 netinst) with the installation option,
the LAN is recognized, but WLAN is not.

If I start a shell from the installer, I can see that the necessary
module rtl8xxxu is loaded (the same one that is loaded in live option).
So I guess it is a firmware issue. How can I get an installer with
non-free firmware (if that is the problem)?
I just found one page that says the (non-free?) FW is always included
in the images (starting from bookworm). Is that true?
Any other idea?

Many Thanks and Best Regards,
Felix
-- 
Felix Natter

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#267149

FromCharles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com>
Date2024-02-08 20:10 +0100
Message-ID<I5hWy-8NCB-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#267146
On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 19:24:35 +0100
Felix Natter <fnatter@gmx.net> wrote:

> If I start a shell from the installer, I can see that the necessary
> module rtl8xxxu is loaded (the same one that is loaded in live
> option). So I guess it is a firmware issue. How can I get an
> installer with non-free firmware (if that is the problem)?
> I just found one page that says the (non-free?) FW is always included
> in the images (starting from bookworm). Is that true?
> Any other idea?

My understanding is that the non-free firmware is now included on
Debian installation media.

I've been using "Debian GNU/Linux 12.2.0 "Bookworm" - Official amd64
NETINST with firmware 20231007-10:28" and had no problems with non-free
firmware on my several computers.

So to diagnose this further, exactly what hardware? Please run lspci,
and run lspci -v for the offending device.

Also, you can run the netinst installer at least through the relevant
installation phase. Then please capture the logs, probably under
/var/log. Searching syslog on the word "firmware" should turn up some
interesting messages.

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#267231

FromFelix Natter <fnatter@gmx.net>
Date2024-02-10 15:30 +0100
Message-ID<I5WwF-9ebs-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#267149
Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> writes:
> On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 19:24:35 +0100
> Felix Natter <fnatter@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>> If I start a shell from the installer, I can see that the necessary
>> module rtl8xxxu is loaded (the same one that is loaded in live
>> option). So I guess it is a firmware issue. How can I get an
>> installer with non-free firmware (if that is the problem)?
>> I just found one page that says the (non-free?) FW is always included
>> in the images (starting from bookworm). Is that true?
>> Any other idea?

hello Charles,

thank you for your reply. 

> My understanding is that the non-free firmware is now included on
> Debian installation media.

yes, it is pretty clearly stated here:
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

> I've been using "Debian GNU/Linux 12.2.0 "Bookworm" - Official amd64
> NETINST with firmware 20231007-10:28" and had no problems with non-free
> firmware on my several computers.
>
> So to diagnose this further, exactly what hardware? Please run lspci,
> and run lspci -v for the offending device.
>
> Also, you can run the netinst installer at least through the relevant
> installation phase. Then please capture the logs, probably under
> /var/log. Searching syslog on the word "firmware" should turn up some
> interesting messages.

As I wrote in the other reply, I was mainly concerned about Wifi not
working after installation (I wanted to understand it). I can install
from LAN.

Many Thanks for the reply,
Felix
-- 
Felix Natter

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#267153

FromFranco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com>
Date2024-02-08 21:30 +0100
Message-ID<I5jbX-8Ohv-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#267146
On 08/02/24 at 19:24, Felix Natter wrote:
> Dear debian-users,
> 
> I put this on a stick and booted it:
> debian-live-12.4.0-amd64-gnome.iso
> 
> When I boot the live option, the network is immediately loaded and I can
> connect to a WIFI network. However, if I use the same stick
> (or one with debian 12.4.0 netinst) with the installation option,
> the LAN is recognized, but WLAN is not.

Hope I'm wrong, but I've heard that D-I has trouble with USB devices 
other than keyboard and mouse. The rtl8xxxu module is usually for USB 
NIC, if it's the case I think you can rely only to LAN for the installation.

Cheers,
-- 
Franco Martelli

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#267230

FromFelix Natter <fnatter@gmx.net>
Date2024-02-10 15:30 +0100
Message-ID<I5WwF-9ebs-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#267153
hello Franco,

thanks for the answer.

Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> writes:
> On 08/02/24 at 19:24, Felix Natter wrote:
>> Dear debian-users,
>> I put this on a stick and booted it:
>> debian-live-12.4.0-amd64-gnome.iso
>> When I boot the live option, the network is immediately loaded and I can
>> connect to a WIFI network. However, if I use the same stick
>> (or one with debian 12.4.0 netinst) with the installation option,
>> the LAN is recognized, but WLAN is not.
>
> Hope I'm wrong, but I've heard that D-I has trouble with USB devices other
> than keyboard and mouse. The rtl8xxxu module is usually for USB NIC, if
> it's the case I think you can rely only to LAN for the installation.

I was mainly concerned with Wifi not working after installation. I
bought a long LAN cable and can install via LAN. Now that I understand
the limitation (a search on google seems to confirm this), I am not
worried any more :)

Many Thanks and Best Regards,
Felix
-- 
Felix Natter

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