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what keyboard do you use?

Started byLee <ler762@gmail.com>
First post2024-02-03 02:30 +0100
Last post2024-02-06 05:30 +0100
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  what keyboard do you use? Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 02:30 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-02-03 02:50 +0100
      Re: what keyboard do you use? Timothy M Butterworth <timothy.m.butterworth@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 04:00 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2024-02-03 03:00 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2024-02-03 03:10 +0100
      Re: what keyboard do you use? Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-02-03 08:40 +0100
      Re: what keyboard do you use? Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:40 +0100
      Re: what keyboard do you use? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-04 11:30 +0100
        Re: what keyboard do you use? Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-02-04 17:30 +0100
        Re: what keyboard do you use? Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2024-02-04 18:40 +0100
          Re: what keyboard do you use? Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2024-02-04 19:00 +0100
            Re: what keyboard do you use? Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2024-02-04 19:10 +0100
              Re: what keyboard do you use? Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2024-02-04 19:30 +0100
                Re: what keyboard do you use? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-05 12:40 +0100
                  Re: what keyboard do you use? "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2024-02-05 15:50 +0100
                    How can we change the keyboard layout? (was: what keyboard do you  use?) hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-05 21:10 +0100
                      Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? (was: what keyboard do  you use?) Ralph Aichinger <ra@h5.or.at> - 2024-02-05 21:40 +0100
                      Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? (was: what keyboard do  you use?) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-02-05 21:40 +0100
                        Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? (was: what keyboard do  you use?) hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-05 23:50 +0100
                          Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? (was: what keyboard do  you use?) debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-02-06 12:30 +0100
                            Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? (was: what keyboard do  you use?) hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-06 15:10 +0100
                      Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2024-02-05 22:10 +0100
                        Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-06 00:20 +0100
                          Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-02-06 05:30 +0100
                            Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-06 05:50 +0100
                              Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-02-06 06:30 +0100
                                Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-02-06 06:40 +0100
                                  Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-02-06 15:20 +0100
                            Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-06 11:30 +0100
                              Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-02-07 04:50 +0100
                                Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-07 07:00 +0100
                                  Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-07 13:20 +0100
                                    Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2024-02-07 14:40 +0100
                                  Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-13 08:20 +0100
                                    Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-02-21 20:00 +0100
                                      Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-21 23:20 +0100
                                        Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-02-26 04:30 +0100
                          Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2024-02-06 10:20 +0100
                            Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-06 11:40 +0100
                              Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-02-06 11:50 +0100
                        Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-06 04:20 +0100
                      Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? (was: what keyboard do  you use?) Brian Sammon <debian-users-list@brisammon.fastmail.fm> - 2024-02-06 07:40 +0100
                        Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? (was: what keyboard do  you use?) debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-02-06 13:10 +0100
                        Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? (was: what keyboard do  you use?) hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-06 14:00 +0100
                        solved: How can we change the keyboard layout? (was: what keyboard  do you use?) hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-06 16:00 +0100
                      Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2024-02-06 11:20 +0100
                        Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-02-06 12:00 +0100
                        Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-06 12:50 +0100
                          Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? Ralph Aichinger <ra@h5.or.at> - 2024-02-06 13:30 +0100
                            Of German keycap translations [was: How can we change the keyboard  layout?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-02-06 13:40 +0100
                              Re: Of German keycap translations [was: How can we change the  keyboard layout?] hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-06 14:50 +0100
                            Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-06 14:40 +0100
                            [OT] (I guess) Re: How can we change the keyboard layout? Michael Lange <klappnase@t-online.de> - 2024-02-07 00:00 +0100
                  Re: what keyboard do you use? Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-02-06 05:20 +0100
                    Re: what keyboard do you use? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-06 12:10 +0100
                      Re: what keyboard do you use? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-02-06 13:20 +0100
            Re: what keyboard do you use? "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2024-02-05 18:10 +0100
          Re: what keyboard do you use? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-05 12:30 +0100
            Re: what keyboard do you use? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-02-05 15:10 +0100
              Re: what keyboard do you use? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-05 21:50 +0100
                On graphical environments [was: what keyboard do you use?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-02-06 06:40 +0100
                  Re: On graphical environments [was: what keyboard do you use?] hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-06 15:00 +0100
                    Re: On graphical environments [was: what keyboard do you use?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-02-06 15:10 +0100
                Re: what keyboard do you use? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-02-06 15:10 +0100
        Re: what keyboard do you use? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-02-04 18:40 +0100
          Re: what keyboard do you use? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-05 12:10 +0100
            Re: what keyboard do you use? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-02-05 15:10 +0100
              Re: what keyboard do you use? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-05 20:40 +0100
                Re: what keyboard do you use? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-02-06 15:10 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2024-02-03 05:00 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? Ralph Aichinger <ra@h5.or.at> - 2024-02-03 05:00 +0100
      Re: what keyboard do you use? Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 16:00 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-02-03 05:50 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-02-03 06:20 +0100
      Re: what keyboard do you use? jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 07:00 +0100
        Re: what keyboard do you use? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2024-02-03 13:30 +0100
        Re: what keyboard do you use? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-02-03 13:40 +0100
          Re: what keyboard do you use? Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2024-02-03 15:50 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-02-03 06:50 +0100
      Re: what keyboard do you use? "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2024-02-05 17:50 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-02-03 08:40 +0100
      Re: what keyboard do you use? Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2024-02-03 15:50 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2024-02-03 14:50 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:20 +0100
      Re: what keyboard do you use? "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-02-03 17:20 +0100
        Re: what keyboard do you use? Roger Price <debian@rogerprice.org> - 2024-02-03 18:40 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-04 12:20 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-02-04 22:30 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? Henrik Morsing <henrik@morsing.cc> - 2024-02-05 12:40 +0100
      Re: what keyboard do you use? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-02-05 13:30 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> - 2024-02-05 16:20 +0100
      Re: what keyboard do you use? Ash Joubert <ash@transient.nz> - 2024-02-06 00:20 +0100
        Re: what keyboard do you use? Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> - 2024-02-06 01:50 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2024-02-05 17:50 +0100
      Re: what keyboard do you use? hw <hw@adminart.net> - 2024-02-05 22:30 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2024-02-05 23:30 +0100
    Re: what keyboard do you use? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-02-06 05:30 +0100

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#266918

FromMarco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de>
Date2024-02-03 08:40 +0100
Message-ID<I3iN3-7y5Q-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266903
Am Fri, 2 Feb 2024 20:25:09 -0500
schrieb Lee <ler762@gmail.com>:

> I figure there's a high percentage of keyboard jockeys here so ..
> which keyboard do you like and why?

IBM Model M.
They are still made by the company Unicomp, with PS/2, DIN or USB.

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#266927

FromMichael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net>
Date2024-02-03 15:50 +0100
Message-ID<I3pvc-7Cin-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266918
On 3 Feb 2024 08:34 +0100, from mm@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock):
>> I figure there's a high percentage of keyboard jockeys here so ..
>> which keyboard do you like and why?
> 
> IBM Model M.
> They are still made by the company Unicomp, with PS/2, DIN or USB.

I was going to suggest that too, but OP in Feb 3 14:31 UTC dismissed
daskeyboard because loud isn't an option, so I guess that makes a
Model M an even worse choice.

Probably can't beat it for durability, though.

Whichever keyboard you go for, I do recommend to make sure that either
it's hermetically sealed (unlikely...) or that the keys are easily
removable and replaceable for cleaning. Because no matter how clean
you try to keep it, grime eventually does get in and start interfering
with the mechanism.

-- 
Michael Kjörling                     🔗 https://michael.kjorling.se
“Remember when, on the Internet, nobody cared that you were a dog?”

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#266924

FromEric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk>
Date2024-02-03 14:50 +0100
Message-ID<I3oz7-7BDJ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266903
I have two: a Kinesis Advantage 2 and a Corsair gaming mechanical
keyboard, both USB connected.  I use the latter almost exclusively and
love it: the feel of the mechanical keys, the sound of those keys, and
the keyboard lighting.  I seldom use the Kinesis: just could not get
used to it.

-- 
Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-09-14) on Debian 12.2

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#266925

FromLee <ler762@gmail.com>
Date2024-02-03 15:20 +0100
Message-ID<I3p29-7C6z-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266903
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 8:57 PM Russell L. Harris  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 02, 2024 at 08:25:09PM -0500, Lee wrote:
> >which keyboard do you like and why?
>
> CHERRY MX BOARD 3.0 (Purchased several years ago; in daily use since.)
> Excellent mechanical quality of the keyswitch.  Keyswitch plungers
> which start sticking (high resistance upon depression) is the biggest
> problem I have found.  The next-greatest problem is intermittent
> contact of key switch contacts.  Both problems are maddening for the
> touch typist.

OK - good to know.  I am a touch typist, so I guess I'm giving that one a pass.
Thanks
Lee

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#266931

From"Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org>
Date2024-02-03 17:20 +0100
Message-ID<I3qUh-7Dfp-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266925
On Sat, Feb 03, 2024 at 09:10:49AM -0500, Lee wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 8:57???PM Russell L. Harris  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 02, 2024 at 08:25:09PM -0500, Lee wrote:
>> >which keyboard do you like and why?
>>
>> CHERRY MX BOARD 3.0 (Purchased several years ago; in daily use since.)
>> Excellent mechanical quality of the keyswitch.  Keyswitch plungers
>> which start sticking (high resistance upon depression) is the biggest
>> problem I have found.  The next-greatest problem is intermittent
>> contact of key switch contacts.  Both problems are maddening for the
>> touch typist.
>
>OK - good to know.  I am a touch typist, so I guess I'm giving that one a pass.

I am saying that these are the biggest problems I have found with
keyboards in general, and that the CHERRY MX BOARD 3.0 does not have
these problems.  If you are a touch typist, focus upon the quality of
the keyswitch.  Cherry makes/uses a good keyswitch.  Buy Cherry.  RLH

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#266932

FromRoger Price <debian@rogerprice.org>
Date2024-02-03 18:40 +0100
Message-ID<I3s9I-7DUg-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266931
On Sat, 3 Feb 2024, Russell L. Harris wrote:

>>> On Fri, Feb 02, 2024 at 08:25:09PM -0500, Lee wrote:
>>> >which keyboard do you like and why?

> ...  Cherry makes/uses a good keyswitch.  Buy Cherry.  RLH

I bought a Cherry MX 3000 USB.  In use permanently in a very dusty environment 
next to a wood stove.  No problems.  Roger

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#266939

Fromhw <hw@adminart.net>
Date2024-02-04 12:20 +0100
Message-ID<I3IHv-7ODN-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266903
On Fri, 2024-02-02 at 20:25 -0500, Lee wrote:
> [...]
> I figure there's a high percentage of keyboard jockeys here so ..
> which keyboard do you like and why?

It comes down to your personal preference and on how much you're
willing to pay for a good keybard.  I'm using [1].

I'm using it because I'm finding these buckling spring keyboards the
best variant to type on.  I've never found anything better in the last
40 years.

They also have the advantage that they have a decent size not only for
the keys and their spacing, but also for the housing which is designed
so you can put stuff like pencils on it.

The ones from IBM are so old that they're usually somewhat worn out.
They also have become difficult to get and expensive.  Unless you can
find a new old stock and are willing to pay for it, you're better off
getting one from Unicomp.

I even got a new Model M a couple years ago for a steal, and I still
have it.  I like the Unicomp better because of the extra keys without
which I wouldn't know what to do, and it feels a little better to type
on than the Model M.

As an alternative, you could look for a Cherry G80.  Apparently they
don't make them anymore (And I wouldn't buy anything of what they show
on their web site now.).  It's a pity since they were acceptable
keyboards if you like their switches and if you could get one for a
decent price.  They were built cheaply and somewhat wobbly, and I
don't like that cheapness at all, but the money was in the switches.
When you have one have on your desk for typing it's fine.  The
switches are good (though I don't particularly like them, but that's
personal preference) and not in any way cheap or wobbly.

I would like Outemu switches way better than the Cherry ones if the
Outemu ones weren't so wobbly.  They give me nicer feedback while the
Cherry switches feel like nothing (perhaps that's intentional), and
I'm finding their way of travel too small while the Outemu switches
seem to travel a little further.  If you can find a keyboard with
Outemus, it might be worth a try.

Stay away from these so-called 'gaming keyboards'.  Everything that's
labled 'gaming' is usually either incompatible, otherwise bad, or
overpriced, or all of that at the same time.  So if you find a 'gaming
keyboard' at least make sure it's compatible before buying.


[1]:
https://www.pckeyboard.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=UB40B5A

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#266963

FromAnssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi>
Date2024-02-04 22:30 +0100
Message-ID<I3SdQ-7Uwl-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266903
Lee <ler762@gmail.com> writes:

> I figure there's a high percentage of keyboard jockeys here so ..
> which keyboard do you like and why?

I've had a fnatic ministreak for a few years. Why?
- RGB backlight, I set it to a pleasant green.
- remappable keys, remappings stored in the keyboard so it works the
  same everywhere. Two layouts but I only need one.
- mechanical keys but quiet ones (Cherry MX Red Silent).
- tenkeyless, so without the numeric pad I don't need.
- Some media keys, I really only use volume up and down.

Only improvement I'd like is macros that you could copy-paste in and
adjust their speed. This has macros but you have to type them in which
isn't that helpful. My use case is getting passwords into stupid devices
and apps, thankfully it's not that common but there's always that one
thing on some gizmo that insists you have to type in the password. In
fact, my TV has at least two.

Before this I had a Happy Hacking keyboard lite for about 20 years. It
was and is great, just a little short on keys and lacks the other
features mentioned above too.

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#266980

FromHenrik Morsing <henrik@morsing.cc>
Date2024-02-05 12:40 +0100
Message-ID<I45up-82RT-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266903
On Fri, Feb 02, 2024 at 08:25:09PM -0500, Lee wrote:
>
>I have a Logitech k740 attached to my Windows machine which is ok.
>Not great but OK.
>I found a spare Logitech k120 keyboard in the closet; its better than
>nothing but too thick for regular use.
>And the old Dell keyboard from the Windows machine - also too thick,
>the keys are too cramped and lettering has worn off on about 1/4 of
>the keys (which is why I got the Logitech 740)
>

Happy Hacking lite for the last 20+ years, absolutely nothing else will suffice. And I work faster than any colleague I've ever met because of it.

And it has to be that exact version (they don't make it anymore) because of the right-side Fn key and the separate arrow keys.

So it will be a task over the next 50 years getting my current one repaired/replaced should it break.

Regards,
Henrik Morsing

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#266983

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2024-02-05 13:30 +0100
Message-ID<I46gO-83pj-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266980
Henrik Morsing wrote: 
> Happy Hacking lite for the last 20+ years, absolutely nothing else will suffice. And I work faster than any colleague I've ever met because of it.
> 
> And it has to be that exact version (they don't make it anymore) because of the right-side Fn key and the separate arrow keys.
> 
> So it will be a task over the next 50 years getting my current one repaired/replaced should it break.

You might want to buy a spare as soon as you see one and wrap it
up against dust and mechanical accidents.

-dsr-

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#266988

FromPeter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com>
Date2024-02-05 16:20 +0100
Message-ID<I48Vj-85dl-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266903

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On 2/2/24 17:25, Lee wrote:
> I bought a Dell desktop in 2019 and the keyboard just died :(
>
> ssh in from another machine & do a 'sudo reboot now' and get an alert
> about 'Keyboard not found.'  on power up.  The keyboard also doesn't
> work in another machine so it's really & truly dead.
>
> I figure there's a high percentage of keyboard jockeys here so ..
> which keyboard do you like and why?

Logitech K270

full size, simple, $22 USD, fits me just fine


>
> I have a Logitech k740 attached to my Windows machine which is ok.
> Not great but OK.
> I found a spare Logitech k120 keyboard in the closet; its better than
> nothing but too thick for regular use.
> And the old Dell keyboard from the Windows machine - also too thick,
> the keys are too cramped and lettering has worn off on about 1/4 of
> the keys (which is why I got the Logitech 740)
>
> Thanks
> Lee
>
>

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#267013

FromAsh Joubert <ash@transient.nz>
Date2024-02-06 00:20 +0100
Message-ID<I4gpP-89UC-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266988
On 06/02/2024 04:15, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> Logitech K270
> full size, simple, $22 USD, fits me just fine

I use a Logitech MK270r Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Combo which has the 
same keyboard. Full-size standard layout plus media keys, physical power 
switches on both keyboard and mouse. I find the keyboard comfortable and 
not too loud, and the compact mouse suits my smallish hands. I have 
several of these sets for my various work and home computers.

Cheers,

-- 
Ash Joubert (they/them) <ash@transient.nz>
Director / Game Developer
Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#267017

FromPeter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com>
Date2024-02-06 01:50 +0100
Message-ID<I4hOV-8aCI-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#267013
On 2/5/24 14:11, Ash Joubert wrote:
> On 06/02/2024 04:15, Peter Ehlert wrote:
>> Logitech K270
>> full size, simple, $22 USD, fits me just fine
>
> I use a Logitech MK270r 

good tip, packaged with a mouse for $6 more

thanks. I will get that bundle next time

> Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Combo which has the same keyboard. 
> Full-size standard layout plus media keys, physical power switches on 
> both keyboard and mouse. I find the keyboard comfortable and not too 
> loud, and the compact mouse suits my smallish hands. I have several of 
> these sets for my various work and home computers.
>
> Cheers,
>

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#266991

From"James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com>
Date2024-02-05 17:50 +0100
Message-ID<I4akq-85Ya-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266903
On 2/2/24 5:25 PM, Lee wrote:
> I figure there's a high percentage of keyboard jockeys here so ..
> which keyboard do you like and why?

Unicomp. They acquired the rights and the tooling for the IBM buckling 
spring technology.

If only they also offered mice that were as rugged as their keyboards.

--
JHHL

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#267004

Fromhw <hw@adminart.net>
Date2024-02-05 22:30 +0100
Message-ID<I4eHn-88Jn-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266991
On Mon, 2024-02-05 at 08:40 -0800, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
> On 2/2/24 5:25 PM, Lee wrote:
> > I figure there's a high percentage of keyboard jockeys here so ..
> > which keyboard do you like and why?
> 
> Unicomp. They acquired the rights and the tooling for the IBM buckling 
> spring technology.
> 
> If only they also offered mice that were as rugged as their keyboards.

... and trackballs like CST ones, and full metal versions.

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#267006

FromSteve McIntyre <steve@einval.com>
Date2024-02-05 23:30 +0100
Message-ID<I4fDr-89iE-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266903
Lee wrote:
>
>I bought a Dell desktop in 2019 and the keyboard just died :(
>
>ssh in from another machine & do a 'sudo reboot now' and get an alert
>about 'Keyboard not found.'  on power up.  The keyboard also doesn't
>work in another machine so it's really & truly dead.
>
>I figure there's a high percentage of keyboard jockeys here so ..
>which keyboard do you like and why?

I used to love the old IBM Model M, and I used a few of those over the
years until I started having trouble with USB-PS/2 adapters. Then I
tried a new Unicomp USB keyboard. Very similar feel, as you'd expect,
but it didn't have the same build quality and the lower row of keys
started to die after ~5 years or so. It was also *very* loud, enough
to be a problem even in my home office.

About 2y aho I picked up a Filco Majestouch-2 with Cherry MX Brown
switches. I'm loving it - full size and a good level of mechanical
tactile feedback WITHOUT ALL THE NOISE ALL THE TIME. Very much
recommended.

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky,
Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I...

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#267023

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2024-02-06 05:30 +0100
Message-ID<I4lfQ-8cQn-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266903
On Fri 02 Feb 2024 at 20:25:09 (-0500), Lee wrote:
> I bought a Dell desktop in 2019 and the keyboard just died :(
> 
> ssh in from another machine & do a 'sudo reboot now' and get an alert
> about 'Keyboard not found.'  on power up.  The keyboard also doesn't
> work in another machine so it's really & truly dead.
> 
> I figure there's a high percentage of keyboard jockeys here so ..
> which keyboard do you like and why?
> 
> I have a Logitech k740 attached to my Windows machine which is ok.
> Not great but OK.
> I found a spare Logitech k120 keyboard in the closet; its better than
> nothing but too thick for regular use.
> And the old Dell keyboard from the Windows machine - also too thick,
> the keys are too cramped and lettering has worn off on about 1/4 of
> the keys (which is why I got the Logitech 740)

Most of the time I use a Logitech K520, bought with a unified mouse,
though I use it with a wired optical mouse. We have another K520 and
a K540, also with mice, though the mice are scattered around. The
540 says Logitech Europe, though it's a US layout like the rest.

I also have an M 1391406 keyboard from 1988, with a GB layout, so
it's got 102 keys. I use it on a 2011 Dell tower (which has PS/2
connectors), paired with a 20-year old Logitech Pilot 3-button.

In a cupboard we've also got a couple of MS Internet Pros (US) and
a Viglen (GB), all USB wired. I don't like their touch.

Cheers,
David.

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