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  Re: limit on attachment in mail to list Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-09 11:10 +0100
    Re: limit on attachment in mail to list "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-11-09 15:20 +0100
      Re: limit on attachment in mail to list <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-10 06:30 +0100
        Re: limit on attachment in mail to list Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2023-11-11 02:10 +0100
          Re: limit on attachment in mail to list <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-11 07:40 +0100

#263278 — Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

On 09/11/2023 14:04, hlyg wrote:
> list doesn't seem to accept my mail, because of big attachment i believe

https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/
Code of conduct
- Avoid sending large attachments.

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Posting_Rules.2C_Guidelines.2C_and_Tips
Posting Rules, Guidelines, and Tips
- Avoid sending large attachments. Consider using paste.debian.net and 
including a link in your post.

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#263283

Am 09.11.2023 um 18:17:31 Uhr schrieb hlyg:

> i think they shall be more specific about "large"

The MX MTA of the debian-users mailing list shouldn't accept an email
that is too larger and should reject it with a proper 5xx message, so
you know what happened.

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On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 08:43:09AM +0800, hlyg wrote:
> On 11/9/23 22:13, Marco M. wrote:
> 
> > 
> > The MX MTA of the debian-users mailing list shouldn't accept an email
> > that is too larger and should reject it with a proper 5xx message, so
> > you know what happened.
> > 
> problem mail is in Sent folder in Thunderbird(tb), it means that tb has sent
> it successfully

You don't know what happened afterwards. Perhaps your provider threw
it away silently. Perhaps the bounce message itself got lost.

I see you are @outlook.com. This is an... idiosyncratic provider: they
invent strange rules "to protect you" (in reality rather to protect
their business model). Perhaps they bounce the bounce message (Microsoft
is like that) and then you'll never know your mail got lost.

As things stand I trust the Debian mail admins more than the Outlook
ones to play by the rules [1]. Much, much more.

Cheers

[1] one basic rule of mail is that, when you've accepted one you
   are responsible for it.
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t

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On Fri, Nov 10, 2023, 4:54 AM Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:10:12 +0800
> hlyg <hlyg2023@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> Hello hlyg,
> ....
> (sweeping generalisation coming)
> People that upload such images are lazy, arrogant, and suffer
> from a massive sense of entitlement.
>

Or maybe they are used to the more recently-devised file sharing services
which let you exchange zillions of much larger files than this list allows,
but every hour. On any given day I might listen to several hundred gigs of
industrial, goth and EBM music on YouTube and Bandcamp, for free. Not even
0.1% of what was added only that one day just in those 3 styles of music.

It's a different use-case but the thoughts are all the same: Have you ever
used, say, an S3 bucket for your Debian EC2 VM in Amazon cloud?

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On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 07:01:57PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2023, 4:54 AM Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:10:12 +0800
> > hlyg <hlyg2023@outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello hlyg,
> > ....
> > (sweeping generalisation coming)
> > People that upload such images are lazy, arrogant, and suffer
> > from a massive sense of entitlement.
> >
> 
> Or maybe they are used to the more recently-devised file sharing services
> which let you exchange zillions of much larger files [...]

Maybe. In any case, the insults seem unnecessary and over the top
(this goes to Brad, not to Nicholas).

Debian's policy of limiting message size is understandable, given
the limits on available resources.

After all, it is a free service, and the project hasn't a river of
investor capital to burn through, betting on the sale of harvested
user's behavioural surplus.

Still, everyone has the right to a honest mistake without being
called arrogant and other things.

Cheers
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t

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