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Performance of my computer

Started byWilliam Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com>
First post2023-10-30 19:50 +0100
Last post2023-10-31 04:30 +0100
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  Performance of my computer William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 19:50 +0100
    Re: Performance of my computer Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-30 20:00 +0100
      Re: Performance of my computer William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 20:10 +0100
        Re: Performance of my computer William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 23:00 +0100
      Re: Performance of my computer Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 21:00 +0100
      Re: Performance of my computer Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 08:10 +0100
    Re: Performance of my computer David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2023-10-30 20:10 +0100
      Re: Performance of my computer Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-30 20:30 +0100
        Re: Performance of my computer William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 20:40 +0100
      Re: Performance of my computer David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2023-10-31 00:50 +0100
    Re: Performance of my computer Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-30 20:30 +0100
      Re: Performance of my computer piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2023-10-30 20:40 +0100
      Re: Performance of my computer William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 20:40 +0100
        Re: Performance of my computer Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-30 20:50 +0100
          Re: Performance of my computer William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 21:20 +0100
          Re: Performance of my computer piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2023-10-31 01:10 +0100
            Re: Performance of my computer Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-31 13:20 +0100
              Re: Performance of my computer piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2023-10-31 13:50 +0100
    Re: Performance of my computer piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2023-10-30 20:50 +0100
      Re: Performance of my computer Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-10-31 00:30 +0100
      Re: Performance of my computer piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2023-10-31 01:10 +0100
        Re: Performance of my computer John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-31 01:30 +0100
      Re: Performance of my computer Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-31 04:00 +0100
      Re: Performance of my computer Mike Castle <dalgoda+debian@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 06:40 +0100
    kill -9 firefox (Re: Performance of my computer) Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 04:30 +0100

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#262939

Frompiorunz <piorunz@gmx.com>
Date2023-10-31 01:10 +0100
Message-ID<HuKut-206l-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262925
On 30/10/2023 22:19, Van Snyder wrote:
> Then why does it use 1/3 as much memory to display the same pages and
> tabs when I kill it and restart it? That's a symptom of memory leakage.

No, it's just buffering everything it can to satisfy hunger for speed,
set by Chrome and other competitors. Launch Chrome on your computer, you
will experience similar behaviour, memory hogging. It's not a leak, it's
new modern "design" for the browsers.

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#262941

FromJohn Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date2023-10-31 01:30 +0100
Message-ID<HuKNQ-20eD-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262939
Piotr writes:
> No, it's just buffering everything it can to satisfy hunger for speed,
> set by Chrome and other competitors. Launch Chrome on your computer,
> you will experience similar behaviour, memory hogging. It's not a
> leak, it's new modern "design" for the browsers.

I believe you can adjust memory usage in about:config in Firefox.
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#262944

FromStefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Date2023-10-31 04:00 +0100
Message-ID<HuN8Z-21sK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262925
> Then why does it use 1/3 as much memory to display the same pages and
> tabs when I kill it and restart it? That's a symptom of memory leakage.

Not necessarily, no.  It may consciously decide to hold on memory that
was used in the past in order to avoid having to re-allocate and
re-initialize it next time.
Some of that is simply "the cache", but there are all kinds of things
like that.

A leak would be if the amount of memory use increases each time you
visit a given page, even though that page always has exactly the
same content.


        Stefan

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#262950

FromMike Castle <dalgoda+debian@gmail.com>
Date2023-10-31 06:40 +0100
Message-ID<HuPDP-23gw-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262925
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 5:14 PM Van Snyder <van.snyder@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-10-30 at 19:40 +0000, piorunz wrote:
> On 30/10/2023 18:56, Van Snyder wrote:
> Firefox, in every version I've used so far, appears to have memory
>
> leaks. If I kill it, not by clicking its little "X" or Alt-F4, but with
>
> "kill -9", so that it reopens everything when I restart it, my memory
>
> usage immediately drops by 75%. Then it creeps back up.
>
>
> Firefox doesn't have any memory leaks. It actively uses buffers, cache,
>
> filling available memory. I have Firefox running for days, sometimes
>
> weeks. On slow laptop, and fast workstation PC. Same result, no crashes,
>
> no memory leaks.
>
>
> Then why does it use 1/3 as much memory to display the same pages and tabs when I kill it and restart it? That's a symptom of memory leakage.

Do you happen to keep the Web Developer Tools open?  Or console logs
set to persistent?  Those will keep lots of things in memory just in
case you need them as a developer trying to debug an issue.
Generally, if I notice my memory usage going up, I will be sure to
close the Dev Tools and reload the tab a couple of times.  Then,
eventually, the JavaScript garbage collector will kick in and start
releasing the items the Dev Tools have stopped tracking.

FF also has built in performance tools that can be used to determine
what may be using resources.  Menu -> More tools -> Task Manager (aka,
shift-esc or about:processes).

Nothing Debian specific here.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/task-manager-tabs-or-extensions-are-slowing-firefox#w_task-manager
has more details.

mrc

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#262949 — kill -9 firefox (Re: Performance of my computer)

FromMax Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Date2023-10-31 04:30 +0100
Subjectkill -9 firefox (Re: Performance of my computer)
Message-ID<HuNC1-21Xm-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262912
On 31/10/2023 01:56, Van Snyder wrote:
> Firefox, in every version I've used so far, appears to have memory 
> leaks. If I kill it, not by clicking its little "X" or Alt-F4, but with 
> "kill -9", so that it reopens everything when I restart it, my memory 
> usage immediately drops by 75%. Then it creeps back up.

It may be leaks in JavaScript code running by particular web pages, not 
Firefox fault.

Firefox has the "restore previous session" feature. My expectation is 
that it should work more reliable than "kill -9". The latter may cause 
inconsistency in data saved to disk. I see nothing wrong with "close 
window" (Alt+F4). An alternative is "quit" that closes all windows at once.

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