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| Started by | William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2023-10-30 19:50 +0100 |
| Last post | 2023-10-31 04:30 +0100 |
| Articles | 5 on this page of 25 — 11 participants |
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Performance of my computer William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 19:50 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-30 20:00 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 20:10 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 23:00 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 21:00 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 08:10 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2023-10-30 20:10 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-30 20:30 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 20:40 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2023-10-31 00:50 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-30 20:30 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2023-10-30 20:40 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 20:40 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-30 20:50 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer William Torrez Corea <willitc9888@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 21:20 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2023-10-31 01:10 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-31 13:20 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2023-10-31 13:50 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2023-10-30 20:50 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-10-31 00:30 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2023-10-31 01:10 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-31 01:30 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-31 04:00 +0100
Re: Performance of my computer Mike Castle <dalgoda+debian@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 06:40 +0100
kill -9 firefox (Re: Performance of my computer) Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 04:30 +0100
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| From | piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-31 01:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <HuKut-206l-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #262925 |
On 30/10/2023 22:19, Van Snyder wrote: > Then why does it use 1/3 as much memory to display the same pages and > tabs when I kill it and restart it? That's a symptom of memory leakage. No, it's just buffering everything it can to satisfy hunger for speed, set by Chrome and other competitors. Launch Chrome on your computer, you will experience similar behaviour, memory hogging. It's not a leak, it's new modern "design" for the browsers. -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀
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| From | John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-31 01:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <HuKNQ-20eD-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #262939 |
Piotr writes: > No, it's just buffering everything it can to satisfy hunger for speed, > set by Chrome and other competitors. Launch Chrome on your computer, > you will experience similar behaviour, memory hogging. It's not a > leak, it's new modern "design" for the browsers. I believe you can adjust memory usage in about:config in Firefox. -- John Hasler john@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> |
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| Date | 2023-10-31 04:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <HuN8Z-21sK-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #262925 |
> Then why does it use 1/3 as much memory to display the same pages and
> tabs when I kill it and restart it? That's a symptom of memory leakage.
Not necessarily, no. It may consciously decide to hold on memory that
was used in the past in order to avoid having to re-allocate and
re-initialize it next time.
Some of that is simply "the cache", but there are all kinds of things
like that.
A leak would be if the amount of memory use increases each time you
visit a given page, even though that page always has exactly the
same content.
Stefan
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| From | Mike Castle <dalgoda+debian@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-31 06:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <HuPDP-23gw-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #262925 |
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 5:14 PM Van Snyder <van.snyder@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > On Mon, 2023-10-30 at 19:40 +0000, piorunz wrote: > On 30/10/2023 18:56, Van Snyder wrote: > Firefox, in every version I've used so far, appears to have memory > > leaks. If I kill it, not by clicking its little "X" or Alt-F4, but with > > "kill -9", so that it reopens everything when I restart it, my memory > > usage immediately drops by 75%. Then it creeps back up. > > > Firefox doesn't have any memory leaks. It actively uses buffers, cache, > > filling available memory. I have Firefox running for days, sometimes > > weeks. On slow laptop, and fast workstation PC. Same result, no crashes, > > no memory leaks. > > > Then why does it use 1/3 as much memory to display the same pages and tabs when I kill it and restart it? That's a symptom of memory leakage. Do you happen to keep the Web Developer Tools open? Or console logs set to persistent? Those will keep lots of things in memory just in case you need them as a developer trying to debug an issue. Generally, if I notice my memory usage going up, I will be sure to close the Dev Tools and reload the tab a couple of times. Then, eventually, the JavaScript garbage collector will kick in and start releasing the items the Dev Tools have stopped tracking. FF also has built in performance tools that can be used to determine what may be using resources. Menu -> More tools -> Task Manager (aka, shift-esc or about:processes). Nothing Debian specific here. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/task-manager-tabs-or-extensions-are-slowing-firefox#w_task-manager has more details. mrc
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| From | Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-10-31 04:30 +0100 |
| Subject | kill -9 firefox (Re: Performance of my computer) |
| Message-ID | <HuNC1-21Xm-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #262912 |
On 31/10/2023 01:56, Van Snyder wrote: > Firefox, in every version I've used so far, appears to have memory > leaks. If I kill it, not by clicking its little "X" or Alt-F4, but with > "kill -9", so that it reopens everything when I restart it, my memory > usage immediately drops by 75%. Then it creeps back up. It may be leaks in JavaScript code running by particular web pages, not Firefox fault. Firefox has the "restore previous session" feature. My expectation is that it should work more reliable than "kill -9". The latter may cause inconsistency in data saved to disk. I see nothing wrong with "close window" (Alt+F4). An alternative is "quit" that closes all windows at once.
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