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Bookworm: NetworkManager

Started byPocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com>
First post2023-10-21 18:40 +0200
Last post2023-10-22 02:30 +0200
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  Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 18:40 +0200
    Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 18:50 +0200
      Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 19:10 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 19:30 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 19:40 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 20:00 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 20:10 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 10:10 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 14:30 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 14:50 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-22 15:20 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 18:50 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 19:50 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-10-22 19:40 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 20:00 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2023-10-22 17:10 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-22 18:30 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-10-22 20:40 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-24 18:50 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-24 19:30 +0200
                  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-24 19:40 +0200
                  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-25 03:10 +0200
                  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-25 03:50 +0200
                  link-local 169.254.x.y addresses Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 18:50 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-10-25 01:40 +0200
          Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Alessandro Baggi <alessandro.baggi@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 11:50 +0100
            Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-01 12:20 +0100
              Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-11-01 12:40 +0100
                Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 17:10 +0100
                  Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2023-11-01 17:20 +0100
            Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 yxcv@vienna.at - 2023-11-01 12:20 +0100
              Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-01 12:20 +0100
            Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-01 12:20 +0100
              Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-11-01 15:20 +0100
                Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-01 15:40 +0100
                  Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Alessandro Baggi <alessandro.baggi@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 15:50 +0100
                  Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-01 16:10 +0100
                    Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-01 18:50 +0100
                      Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 16:50 +0100
                        Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 18:00 +0100
                        Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-11-02 19:00 +0100
                          Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-03 16:50 +0100
                  Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-11-01 21:00 +0100
            Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-11-01 12:30 +0100
              Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12 Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-11-01 13:20 +0100
        Making resolv.conf immutable [was: Bookworm: NetworkManager] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-10-22 07:20 +0200
    Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-10-21 20:00 +0200
      Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 20:20 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-21 20:40 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 20:50 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Christoph Brinkhaus <c.brinkhaus@t-online.de> - 2023-10-21 21:00 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 21:20 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-21 21:10 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 21:40 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 21:50 +0200
                  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 22:00 +0200
                    Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-21 23:40 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-10-22 07:30 +0200
                  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 14:40 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-10-21 22:50 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 23:00 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 23:20 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 23:20 +0200
                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-22 13:20 +0200
                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 14:30 +0200
                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 17:20 +0200
                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-22 19:00 +0200
                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-22 20:20 +0200
                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-22 20:40 +0200
                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 00:10 +0200
                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-23 00:50 +0200
                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 02:40 +0200
                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-23 02:50 +0200
                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-23 04:40 +0200
                                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-23 05:10 +0200
                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 09:20 +0200
                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 17:20 +0200
                                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 18:00 +0200
                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 04:40 +0200
                                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-10-23 22:40 +0200
                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-24 02:00 +0200
                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-10-22 20:40 +0200
                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 21:10 +0200
                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-22 23:50 +0200
                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2023-10-23 02:00 +0200
                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 07:40 +0200
                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Christian Groessler <chris@groessler.org> - 2023-10-23 12:40 +0200
                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-25 03:50 +0200
                                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2023-10-25 05:50 +0200
                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was:  Bookworm:NetworkManager "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-25 07:40 +0200
                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-25 11:10 +0200
                                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-10-25 13:20 +0200
                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-25 14:20 +0200
                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-25 16:50 +0200
                                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-25 13:30 +0200
                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-25 14:20 +0200
                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 18:30 +0200
                                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-26 03:30 +0200
                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-26 03:50 +0200
                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-26 04:50 +0200
                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-27 05:20 +0200
                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-10-27 06:50 +0200
                                                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 12:10 +0200
                                                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 13:20 +0200
                                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-27 13:30 +0200
                                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-27 14:00 +0200
                                                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 15:10 +0200
                                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-27 15:40 +0200
                                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-27 16:10 +0200
                                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-27 16:20 +0200
                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 17:50 +0200
                                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 16:30 +0200
                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:10 +0200
                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 17:30 +0100
                                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 19:30 +0100
                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 03:30 +0100
                                                            Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain name  to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 16:20 +0200
                                                              Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain nameto  use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:10 +0200
                                                                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain nameto  use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-29 17:10 +0100
                                                                  Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain  nametouse on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-29 18:10 +0100
                                                                    Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain  nametouse on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 04:20 +0100
                                                                      Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain nametouse  on home networks The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2023-10-31 10:20 +0100
                                                                        Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was: Domain  nametouseon home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-31 15:30 +0100
                                                                      Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:  Domainnametouse on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-31 15:30 +0100
                                                                        Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:  Domainnametouse on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-31 17:40 +0100
                                                                        Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:  Domainnametouse on home networks Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-11-01 22:10 +0100
                                                                          Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian; was:Domainnametouse  on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-02 00:30 +0100
                                                                            Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;  was:Domainnametouse on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-02 00:40 +0100
                                                                              Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;was:Domainnametouse  on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-02 01:20 +0100
                                                                                Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;was:Domainnametouse  on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-02 01:40 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;was:Domainnametouse  on home networks Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-11-02 02:20 +0100
                                                                            Re: Changing host name and domain name on Debian;  was:Domainnametouse on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-11-02 00:40 +0100
                                                                            Re: report a Debian bug (was: Changing host name and dom...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2023-11-02 01:00 +0100
                                                                              Re: report a Debian bug gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-02 02:40 +0100
                                                                                Re: report a Debian bug David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2023-11-02 06:50 +0100
                                                                                  Re: report a Debian bug gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-02 09:10 +0100
                                                                                    Re: report a Debian bug David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2023-11-02 22:20 +0100
                                                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 17:30 +0200
                                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 17:50 +0200
                                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:40 +0200
                                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-27 18:50 +0200
                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 19:10 +0200
                                                                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 19:20 +0200
                                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 14:00 +0200
                                                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 17:20 +0200
                                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 17:50 +0200
                                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:30 +0200
                                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:50 +0200
                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 19:30 +0200
                                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-29 15:30 +0100
                                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-29 16:30 +0100
                                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-29 17:00 +0100
                                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-29 17:30 +0100
                                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-29 18:10 +0100
                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-29 19:20 +0100
                                                                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-29 19:40 +0100
                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 03:20 +0100
                                                                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 09:00 +0100
                                                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks Timothy M Butterworth <timothy.m.butterworth@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 10:20 +0100
                                                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:10 +0100
                                                                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-30 17:20 +0100
                                                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 17:50 +0100
                                                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 18:30 +0100
                                                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
                                                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 17:50 +0100
                                                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 18:10 +0100
                                                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 18:30 +0100
                                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
                                                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 18:30 +0100
                                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
                                                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:50 +0100
                                                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
                                                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 19:40 +0100
                                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-30 19:40 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-30 19:50 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 22:10 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 22:40 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2023-10-31 02:40 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-31 15:10 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 04:10 +0100
                                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 19:50 +0100
                                                                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-31 04:00 +0100
                                                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 13:20 +0100
                                                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 13:30 +0100
                                                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-30 13:30 +0100
                                                                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-30 13:40 +0100
                                                                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:40 +0100
                                                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:20 +0100
                                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-30 16:00 +0100
                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-30 17:40 +0100
                                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 16:40 +0200
                                                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-27 16:50 +0200
                                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:10 +0200
                                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-27 21:30 +0200
                                                        Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 16:50 +0200
                                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-27 18:20 +0200
                                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-27 18:30 +0200
                                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 19:20 +0200
                                                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-27 20:00 +0200
                                                                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-27 20:10 +0200
                                                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2023-10-27 21:00 +0200
                                                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2023-10-27 21:10 +0200
                                                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-28 00:50 +0200
                                                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-28 07:40 +0200
                                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-27 16:40 +0200
                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-26 10:20 +0200
                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-26 10:40 +0200
                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-26 11:20 +0200
                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 11:10 +0200
                                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-26 11:20 +0200
                                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-27 17:30 +0200
                                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks "Marco M." <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-10-26 10:30 +0200
                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 22:10 +0200
                                  Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-26 01:30 +0200
                                    Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager jeremy ardley <jeremy.ardley@gmail.com> - 2023-10-26 02:00 +0200
                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2023-10-26 02:20 +0200
                                      Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-10-27 05:30 +0200
                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager ghe2001 <ghe2001@protonmail.com> - 2023-10-23 18:00 +0200
                          Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 04:50 +0200
                            Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 18:20 +0200
                              Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-23 20:10 +0200
                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-23 20:30 +0200
                                Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-10-23 23:40 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-10-22 14:50 +0200
                  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 14:50 +0200
                    Re: example.org and other RFC 2606 domains; was: Bookworm:  NetworkManager Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d63c@ewoof.net> - 2023-10-22 15:20 +0200
                    Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2023-10-22 17:00 +0200
                Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2023-10-22 18:20 +0200
                  Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 19:50 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-21 20:40 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 20:50 +0200
    Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-21 22:30 +0200
      Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-10-21 22:40 +0200
      Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 17:30 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-10-22 17:30 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-22 17:50 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-10-25 19:00 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 19:40 +0200
        Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-10-22 19:20 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 19:50 +0200
          Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 00:40 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-23 01:20 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-23 19:10 +0200
            Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-10-23 22:30 +0200
              Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-10-27 21:40 +0200
    Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2023-10-22 02:30 +0200

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#262893 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

FromJohn Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date2023-10-30 17:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuD9D-1Vx6-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262892
Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#262898 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

FromPocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com>
Date2023-10-30 17:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuDCF-1VGE-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262893
On 10/30/23 12:43, gene heskett wrote:
> On 10/30/23 12:16, John Hasler wrote:
>> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
> Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away 
> from it. You can only make it somewhere near right and sudo chattr +i 
> the files before networkmangler discovers you've fixed it.
>
upon first boot....

apt purge --autoremove network-manager

Then don't fight the feeling...........

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#262904 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-10-30 18:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuEfn-1W8i-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262898
On 10/30/23 12:48, Pocket wrote:
> 
> On 10/30/23 12:43, gene heskett wrote:
>> On 10/30/23 12:16, John Hasler wrote:
>>> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
>> Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away 
>> from it. You can only make it somewhere near right and sudo chattr +i 
>> the files before networkmangler discovers you've fixed it.
>>
> upon first boot....
> 
> apt purge --autoremove network-manager
> 
> Then don't fight the feeling...........
> 
I just did that to one of my arm64 boards, its took about 8 or 9 other 
accessory files to NM with it, but no net after a reboot which looks 
otherwise normal..  Now where it the RIGHT place to put the net info? 
ip a says its DOWN. /e/n/interfaces has only lo info in it.

Thank you, Pocket.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#262909 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

FromPocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com>
Date2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuEp4-1WbC-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262904
On 10/30/23 13:29, gene heskett wrote:
> On 10/30/23 12:48, Pocket wrote:
>>
>> On 10/30/23 12:43, gene heskett wrote:
>>> On 10/30/23 12:16, John Hasler wrote:
>>>> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
>>> Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get 
>>> away from it. You can only make it somewhere near right and sudo 
>>> chattr +i the files before networkmangler discovers you've fixed it.
>>>
>> upon first boot....
>>
>> apt purge --autoremove network-manager
>>
>> Then don't fight the feeling...........
>>
> I just did that to one of my arm64 boards, its took about 8 or 9 other 
> accessory files to NM with it, but no net after a reboot which looks 
> otherwise normal..  Now where it the RIGHT place to put the net info? 
> ip a says its DOWN. /e/n/interfaces has only lo info in it.
>
> Thank you, Pocket.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.


Try these links/docs

I think you want ifupdown configuration with/out DNS resolution as you 
have a manually set /etc/resolv.conf.

just the parts about bringing up the interface(s)

https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration

Section: Configuring the interface manually

and this, general network setup on debian

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-handbook/sect.network-config




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#262899 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

FromPocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com>
Date2023-10-30 17:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuDCF-1VGE-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262893
On 10/30/23 12:15, John Hasler wrote:
> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?

That is an interesting question for Gene.

apt purge --autoremove network-manager will fix that.

I take a bit different opinion from Gene, instead of chattr +i 
/etc/resolv.conf I work to figure out how to setup the software.

setting files to immutable is not how to do things in my opinion

If it doesn't work either I am doing something wrong or don't understand 
how to set it up or all the above, that includes understanding or not 
the docs

In my case NetworkManager got installed by my "default" installation 
method, (I don't know why and don't really care) so in my mind I need to 
work with it.

I want to manage ip addresses/dns server addresses on my network using DHCP.

Having to setup things using static addressing is not my cup of tea, 
been there, done that and got the scars from it.

https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/becoming-friends-networkmanager

https://www.baeldung.com/linux/network-manager

-- 

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#262901 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-10-30 18:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuDW1-1W28-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262899
On 10/30/23 12:40, Pocket wrote:
> 
> On 10/30/23 12:15, John Hasler wrote:
>> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
> 
> That is an interesting question for Gene.
> 
> apt purge --autoremove network-manager will fix that.
> 
I can do that?  The last 3 or 4 times I tried that, dependencies took 
the rest of the system down to bare metal and I had to re-install, so 
excuse me if I seem gun shy...  Apt or aptitude, same results.  I have 
rm'd the executable a few times but chattr fixes it better. That or once 
I removed the execute bits from the executable. That seemed to work too.

Thank you, Pocket.  TAke care & stay well.

> I take a bit different opinion from Gene, instead of chattr +i 
> /etc/resolv.conf I work to figure out how to setup the software.
> 
> setting files to immutable is not how to do things in my opinion
> 
> If it doesn't work either I am doing something wrong or don't understand 
> how to set it up or all the above, that includes understanding or not 
> the docs

I agree whole heartedly with this attitude. But we've got man pages in 
some cases 25 damned years old that can't be brought up to what the code 
does today. Or to save space on the install dvd, man pages are heavily 
culled.

Even on this list examples of how to do it correctly are similar to 
pulling teeth. You tell me I'm wrong, and I likely am, but only a few 
will tell me how to do it /right/ by this weeks code. That is what I'm 
hoping to get, not this endless thread.

> 
> In my case NetworkManager got installed by my "default" installation 
> method, (I don't know why and don't really care) so in my mind I need to 
> work with it.
> 
> I want to manage ip addresses/dns server addresses on my network using 
> DHCP.
> 
> Having to setup things using static addressing is not my cup of tea, 
> been there, done that and got the scars from it.
> 
> https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/becoming-friends-networkmanager
> 
> https://www.baeldung.com/linux/network-manager
> 
Thank you for taking the time to reply, Pocket.
Take care & stay well.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#262903 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

FromPocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com>
Date2023-10-30 18:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuEfn-1W8i-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262901
On 10/30/23 13:21, Pocket wrote:
> apt purge network-manager

This is what I get running the above

sudo apt purge network-manager
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer 
required:
   dns-root-data libmbim-glib4 libmbim-proxy libmbim-utils libmm-glib0 
libndp0
   libqmi-glib5 libqmi-proxy libqmi-utils libqrtr-glib0 libteamdctl0
   modemmanager
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
   network-manager*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 16.1 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]


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#262906 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuEp4-1WbC-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262903
On 10/30/23 13:29, Pocket wrote:
> 
> On 10/30/23 13:21, Pocket wrote:
>> apt purge network-manager
> 
> This is what I get running the above
> 
> sudo apt purge network-manager
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer 
> required:
>    dns-root-data libmbim-glib4 libmbim-proxy libmbim-utils libmm-glib0 
> libndp0
>    libqmi-glib5 libqmi-proxy libqmi-utils libqrtr-glib0 libteamdctl0
>    modemmanager
> Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>    network-manager*
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> After this operation, 16.1 MB disk space will be freed.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> 
> 
That worked autoremove worked differently but the end results were 
similar. And eth0 is DOWN on reboot.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#262905 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

FromPocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com>
Date2023-10-30 18:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuEfn-1W8i-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262901
On 10/30/23 13:09, gene heskett wrote:
> On 10/30/23 12:40, Pocket wrote:
>>
>> On 10/30/23 12:15, John Hasler wrote:
>>> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
>>
>> That is an interesting question for Gene.
>>
>> apt purge --autoremove network-manager will fix that.
>>
> I can do that?  The last 3 or 4 times I tried that, dependencies took 
> the rest of the system down to bare metal and I had to re-install, so 
> excuse me if I seem gun shy...  Apt or aptitude, same results.  I have 
> rm'd the executable a few times but chattr fixes it better. That or 
> once I removed the execute bits from the executable. That seemed to 
> work too.


Then do this

apt purge network-manager

That will only remove networkmanager


>
> Thank you, Pocket.  TAke care & stay well.
>
>> I take a bit different opinion from Gene, instead of chattr +i 
>> /etc/resolv.conf I work to figure out how to setup the software.
>>
>> setting files to immutable is not how to do things in my opinion
>>
>> If it doesn't work either I am doing something wrong or don't 
>> understand how to set it up or all the above, that includes 
>> understanding or not the docs
>
> I agree whole heartedly with this attitude. But we've got man pages in 
> some cases 25 damned years old that can't be brought up to what the 
> code does today. Or to save space on the install dvd, man pages are 
> heavily culled.
>
> Even on this list examples of how to do it correctly are similar to 
> pulling teeth. You tell me I'm wrong, and I likely am, but only a few 
> will tell me how to do it /right/ by this weeks code. That is what I'm 
> hoping to get, not this endless thread.


I am painfully aware of that, but I also know that there isn't anything 
I can do to fix that


>
>>
>> In my case NetworkManager got installed by my "default" installation 
>> method, (I don't know why and don't really care) so in my mind I need 
>> to work with it.
>>
>> I want to manage ip addresses/dns server addresses on my network 
>> using DHCP.
>>
>> Having to setup things using static addressing is not my cup of tea, 
>> been there, done that and got the scars from it.
>>
>> https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/becoming-friends-networkmanager
>>
>> https://www.baeldung.com/linux/network-manager
>>
> Thank you for taking the time to reply, Pocket.
> Take care & stay well.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.


Hey, it's me what could go wrong?


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#262907 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuEp4-1WbC-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262905
On 10/30/23 13:21, Pocket wrote:
> 
> On 10/30/23 13:09, gene heskett wrote:
>> On 10/30/23 12:40, Pocket wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/30/23 12:15, John Hasler wrote:
>>>> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
>>>
>>> That is an interesting question for Gene.
>>>
>>> apt purge --autoremove network-manager will fix that.
>>>
>> I can do that?  The last 3 or 4 times I tried that, dependencies took 
>> the rest of the system down to bare metal and I had to re-install, so 
>> excuse me if I seem gun shy...  Apt or aptitude, same results.  I have 
>> rm'd the executable a few times but chattr fixes it better. That or 
>> once I removed the execute bits from the executable. That seemed to 
>> work too.
> 
> 
> Then do this
> 
> apt purge network-manager
> 
> That will only remove networkmanager
> 
And about  or 9 helpers dependent on NM.
> 
>>
>> Thank you, Pocket.  TAke care & stay well.
>>
>>> I take a bit different opinion from Gene, instead of chattr +i 
>>> /etc/resolv.conf I work to figure out how to setup the software.
>>>
>>> setting files to immutable is not how to do things in my opinion
>>>
>>> If it doesn't work either I am doing something wrong or don't 
>>> understand how to set it up or all the above, that includes 
>>> understanding or not the docs
>>
>> I agree whole heartedly with this attitude. But we've got man pages in 
>> some cases 25 damned years old that can't be brought up to what the 
>> code does today. Or to save space on the install dvd, man pages are 
>> heavily culled.
>>
>> Even on this list examples of how to do it correctly are similar to 
>> pulling teeth. You tell me I'm wrong, and I likely am, but only a few 
>> will tell me how to do it /right/ by this weeks code. That is what I'm 
>> hoping to get, not this endless thread.
> 
> 
> I am painfully aware of that, but I also know that there isn't anything 
> I can do to fix that
> 
> 
>>
>>>
>>> In my case NetworkManager got installed by my "default" installation 
>>> method, (I don't know why and don't really care) so in my mind I need 
>>> to work with it.
>>>
>>> I want to manage ip addresses/dns server addresses on my network 
>>> using DHCP.
>>>
>>> Having to setup things using static addressing is not my cup of tea, 
>>> been there, done that and got the scars from it.
>>>
>>> https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/becoming-friends-networkmanager
>>>
>>> https://www.baeldung.com/linux/network-manager
>>>
>> Thank you for taking the time to reply, Pocket.
>> Take care & stay well.
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> 
> 
> Hey, it's me what could go wrong?
> 
> 

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#262900 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-10-30 17:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuDCF-1VGE-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262893
On 10/30/23 12:16, John Hasler wrote:
> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away 
from it. You can only make it somewhere near right and sudo chattr +i 
the files before networkmangler discovers you've fixed it.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#262908 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

FromJohn Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date2023-10-30 18:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuEp4-1WbC-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262900
I wrote:
> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?

Gene writes:
> Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away
> from it.

Why won't "sudo apt remove --purge network-manager" work for you?
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#262910 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-10-30 19:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuFl8-1WMm-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262908
On 10/30/23 13:40, John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote:
>> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
> 
> Gene writes:
>> Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away
>> from it.
> 
> Why won't "sudo apt remove --purge network-manager" work for you?
It did, but took the network down too after a reboot.  To make sure I do 
it right, whats next?

Thanks John.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#262911 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Date2023-10-30 19:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuFl8-1WMm-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262910
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 02:29:37PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 10/30/23 13:40, John Hasler wrote:
> > I wrote:
> > > Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
> > 
> > Gene writes:
> > > Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away
> > > from it.
> > 
> > Why won't "sudo apt remove --purge network-manager" work for you?
> It did, but took the network down too after a reboot.  To make sure I do it
> right, whats next?
> 

systemd-networkd, maybe - see, for example, the Arch wiki at
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/systemd-networkd

Andy

> Thanks John.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> -- 
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
>  - Louis D. Brandeis
> 

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#262914 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

FromGreg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Date2023-10-30 19:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuFuN-1WQx-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262911
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 06:37:48PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 02:29:37PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > On 10/30/23 13:40, John Hasler wrote:
> > > I wrote:
> > > > Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
> > > 
> > > Gene writes:
> > > > Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away
> > > > from it.
> > > 
> > > Why won't "sudo apt remove --purge network-manager" work for you?
> > It did, but took the network down too after a reboot.  To make sure I do it
> > right, whats next?
> > 
> 
> systemd-networkd, maybe - see, for example, the Arch wiki at
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/systemd-networkd
> 
> Andy

That's not a wrong answer, but for Gene's systems I would recommend
traditional Debian ifupdown (/etc/network/interfaces).  It's by far the
simplest, and the most widely supported among the community, in case
he has questions.

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#262930 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

FromPocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com>
Date2023-10-30 22:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuHGh-1Ylx-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262914
On 10/30/23 14:43, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 06:37:48PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 02:29:37PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>>> On 10/30/23 13:40, John Hasler wrote:
>>>> I wrote:
>>>>> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
>>>> Gene writes:
>>>>> Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away
>>>>> from it.
>>>> Why won't "sudo apt remove --purge network-manager" work for you?
>>> It did, but took the network down too after a reboot.  To make sure I do it
>>> right, whats next?
>>>
>> systemd-networkd, maybe - see, for example, the Arch wiki at
>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/systemd-networkd
>>
>> Andy
> That's not a wrong answer, but for Gene's systems I would recommend
> traditional Debian ifupdown (/etc/network/interfaces).  It's by far the
> simplest, and the most widely supported among the community, in case
> he has questions.

I concur


>
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It's not easy to be me

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#262931 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-10-30 22:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuI9j-1YuX-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262914
On 10/30/23 14:44, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 06:37:48PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 02:29:37PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>>> On 10/30/23 13:40, John Hasler wrote:
>>>> I wrote:
>>>>> Why do you have NetworkManager installed at all?
>>>>
>>>> Gene writes:
>>>>> Std image dd'd to u-sd card install on the arm64 stuff, can't get away
>>>>> from it.
>>>>
>>>> Why won't "sudo apt remove --purge network-manager" work for you?
>>> It did, but took the network down too after a reboot.  To make sure I do it
>>> right, whats next?
>>>
>>
>> systemd-networkd, maybe - see, for example, the Arch wiki at
>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/systemd-networkd
>>
>> Andy
> 
> That's not a wrong answer, but for Gene's systems I would recommend
> traditional Debian ifupdown (/etc/network/interfaces).  It's by far the
> simplest, and the most widely supported among the community, in case
> he has questions.
> 
I did that, worked a treat.  Didn't even have to fix one of my fat 
fingered typu's. ;o)>
> .

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#262942 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

FromCharles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com>
Date2023-10-31 02:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuLTz-20PT-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262914
On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 14:43:43 -0400
Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:

> …but for Gene's systems I would recommend
> traditional Debian ifupdown (/etc/network/interfaces).  It's by far
> the simplest, and the most widely supported among the community, in
> case he has questions.

It has the further advantage that Network Manager will not manage
interfaces described in /e/n/i, so Gene can leave NM alone.


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#262965 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-10-31 15:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuXBn-28pP-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262942
On 10/30/23 21:32, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 14:43:43 -0400
> Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:
> 
>> …but for Gene's systems I would recommend
>> traditional Debian ifupdown (/etc/network/interfaces).  It's by far
>> the simplest, and the most widely supported among the community, in
>> case he has questions.
> 
> It has the further advantage that Network Manager will not manage
> interfaces described in /e/n/i, so Gene can leave NM alone.
> 

I haven't had stellar luck with that in the past w/o nukeing NM.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#262946 — Re: Domain name to use on home networks

FromMax Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Date2023-10-31 04:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Domain name to use on home networks
Message-ID<HuNiF-21L9-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#262914
On 31/10/2023 01:43, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> for Gene's systems I would recommend traditional Debian ifupdown 
> (/etc/network/interfaces). It's by far the simplest, and the most widely 
> supported among the community, in case he has questions.

Notice that in the default configuration NetworkManager refrains from 
controlling of interfaces added to /etc/network/interfaces. So it does 
not even necessary to remove packages.

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