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  Re: Web functionality;  peter@easthope.ca - 2023-10-07 00:00 +0200
    Re: Web functionality; <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-10-07 07:50 +0200

#262208 — Re: Web functionality;

    From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
    Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2023 17:39:20 +0100
> I do disagree with much of what the Mozilla foundation does, and at
> the end, they see the world through ad-industry coloured goggles, but
> they are the last credible ditch we have.

Considering how minimal Dillo is, it has worthwhile capability.  I 
wonder why addition of JavaScript isn't mentioned.  I don't mean
compete with Firefox.  Just display fewer blank windows and allow some 
commonly occuring gizmos to work.

> You thought the situation with Microsoft and computing in the 1980s
> and 1990s was grotesque? It's much, much worse these days. The 
> difference is that the monopoly watchdogs are fast asleep at the 
> wheel these days.

For sure ...  

... but even dinosaurs weren't invincible.

In many areas, Europe is more progressive than N. Am.  Any encouraging 
developments there?

Thx,                          ... P.

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On Fri, Oct 06, 2023 at 01:27:14PM -0700, peter@easthope.ca wrote:
>     From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
>     Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2023 17:39:20 +0100
> > I do disagree with much of what the Mozilla foundation does, and at
> > the end, they see the world through ad-industry coloured goggles, but
> > they are the last credible ditch we have.
> 
> Considering how minimal Dillo is, it has worthwhile capability.  I 
> wonder why addition of JavaScript isn't mentioned.  I don't mean
> compete with Firefox.  Just display fewer blank windows and allow some 
> commonly occuring gizmos to work.

Heh. I used Dillo long,long time ago. That time whence this whining of
some Web pages comes from (some still have it!):

  "You don't have Javascript? Oh, you poor sod! Here, we explain
   to you how to switch it on. That's how nice we are!"

> > You thought the situation with Microsoft and computing in the 1980s
> > and 1990s was grotesque? It's much, much worse these days. The 
> > difference is that the monopoly watchdogs are fast asleep at the 
> > wheel these days.
> 
> For sure ...  
> 
> ... but even dinosaurs weren't invincible.

That's my hope, yes. A faint one.

> In many areas, Europe is more progressive than N. Am.  Any encouraging 
> developments there?

Yes, there's GDPR, which went in the right direction. The giants of
surveillance capitalism are making a mock of it, because they are
massively better at that game.

And, to be fair. the book on that was written by a person in the
US:

  Shoshana Zuboff: "The Age of Surveillance Capitalism".

I'm buying a second copy because I gave away my first one.

Cheers
-- 
t

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