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  trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-09-16 14:20 +0200
    Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2023-09-16 17:40 +0200
      Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-09-16 23:10 +0200
    Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2023-09-16 20:30 +0200
      Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-09-16 23:10 +0200
        Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2023-09-17 11:30 +0200
    Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2023-09-16 21:00 +0200
      Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-09-16 23:10 +0200
        Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2023-09-17 11:40 +0200
          Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages Charlie <ariestao@skymesh.com.au> - 2023-09-17 12:20 +0200
            Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2023-09-17 12:40 +0200
          Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-09-17 12:50 +0200
            Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2023-09-17 13:00 +0200
            Re: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-09-17 23:20 +0200
          Replacing Gkrellm (was: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-09-17 19:30 +0200
            Re: Replacing Gkrellm (was: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord  temp and voltages) Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2023-09-17 20:00 +0200
              Re: Replacing Gkrellm Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2023-09-22 00:20 +0200

#261717 — trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages

Greetings all;

gkrellm has traditionally used mbmon to collect the motherboard data for 
temps and voltages that it can display. Bub mbmon won't run because it 
can't find the monitor util for this mid-range asus mobo. Complains 
because it cannot find a via-686 thing, which sounds a bit dated to me.

I just spent around 3 hours with synaptic looking for likely suspects 
w/o any hits.

Asus z-370 mobo, i5 flavor full 32G memory

Any suggestions??

Thanks all;

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
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  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
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  - Louis D. Brandeis
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On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 08:17 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
> 
> gkrellm has traditionally used mbmon to collect the motherboard data
> for 
> temps and voltages that it can display. Bub mbmon won't run because
> it 
> can't find the monitor util for this mid-range asus mobo. Complains 
> because it cannot find a via-686 thing, which sounds a bit dated to
> me.
> 
> I just spent around 3 hours with synaptic looking for likely suspects
> w/o any hits.
> 
> Asus z-370 mobo, i5 flavor full 32G memory
> 
> Any suggestions??
> 
> Thanks all;
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.

Hi,

Can you more specific on the Asus motherboard, as there are many Z370
variants.

Any logs/output of issues?

Regards

Phil

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#261722

On 9/16/23 11:39, Phil Wyett wrote:
> On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 08:17 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>> Greetings all;
>>
>> gkrellm has traditionally used mbmon to collect the motherboard data
>> for
>> temps and voltages that it can display. Bub mbmon won't run because
>> it
>> can't find the monitor util for this mid-range asus mobo. Complains
>> because it cannot find a via-686 thing, which sounds a bit dated to
>> me.
>>
>> I just spent around 3 hours with synaptic looking for likely suspects
>> w/o any hits.
>>
>> Asus z-370 mobo, i5 flavor full 32G memory
>>
>> Any suggestions??
>>
>> Thanks all;
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can you more specific on the Asus motherboard, as there are many Z370
> variants.
> 
So I noticed when I went looking for a newer bios.

Asus Z-370-A II.    haven't put it in yet.

> Any logs/output of issues?

No mention of it in any log I've found.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Phil
> 
Thanks Phil.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
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On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 08:17 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
> 
> gkrellm has traditionally used mbmon to collect the motherboard data
> for 
> temps and voltages that it can display. Bub mbmon won't run because
> it 
> can't find the monitor util for this mid-range asus mobo. Complains 
> because it cannot find a via-686 thing, which sounds a bit dated to
> me.
> 
> I just spent around 3 hours with synaptic looking for likely suspects
> w/o any hits.
> 
> Asus z-370 mobo, i5 flavor full 32G memory
> 
> Any suggestions??
> 
> Thanks all;
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.

Hi,

Could you state which version of Debian you are running when making a
request. This will help people immensely.

Regards

Phil

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#261721

On 9/16/23 14:25, Phil Wyett wrote:
> On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 08:17 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>> Greetings all;
>>
>> gkrellm has traditionally used mbmon to collect the motherboard data
>> for
>> temps and voltages that it can display. Bub mbmon won't run because
>> it
>> can't find the monitor util for this mid-range asus mobo. Complains
>> because it cannot find a via-686 thing, which sounds a bit dated to
>> me.
>>
>> I just spent around 3 hours with synaptic looking for likely suspects
>> w/o any hits.
>>
>> Asus z-370 mobo, i5 flavor full 32G memory
>>
>> Any suggestions??
>>
>> Thanks all;
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Could you state which version of Debian you are running when making a
> request. This will help people immensely.

Already have, uptodate aa of this morning bookworm.

> 
> Regards
> 
> Phil
> 

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
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On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 17:02 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 9/16/23 14:25, Phil Wyett wrote:
> > On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 08:17 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > > Greetings all;
> > > 
> > > gkrellm has traditionally used mbmon to collect the motherboard
> > > data
> > > for
> > > temps and voltages that it can display. Bub mbmon won't run
> > > because
> > > it
> > > can't find the monitor util for this mid-range asus mobo.
> > > Complains
> > > because it cannot find a via-686 thing, which sounds a bit dated
> > > to
> > > me.
> > > 
> > > I just spent around 3 hours with synaptic looking for likely
> > > suspects
> > > w/o any hits.
> > > 
> > > Asus z-370 mobo, i5 flavor full 32G memory
> > > 
> > > Any suggestions??
> > > 
> > > Thanks all;
> > > 
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Could you state which version of Debian you are running when making
> > a
> > request. This will help people immensely.
> 
> Already have, uptodate aa of this morning bookworm.
> 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Phil
> > 
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.

Hi,

This thread until this email does not mention that you are running
bookworm (12). Thank you for the information though, if any testing is
required then people will know where to aim testing etc.

Regards

Phil

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On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 08:17 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
> 
> gkrellm has traditionally used mbmon to collect the motherboard data
> for 
> temps and voltages that it can display. Bub mbmon won't run because
> it 
> can't find the monitor util for this mid-range asus mobo. Complains 
> because it cannot find a via-686 thing, which sounds a bit dated to
> me.
> 
> I just spent around 3 hours with synaptic looking for likely suspects
> w/o any hits.
> 
> Asus z-370 mobo, i5 flavor full 32G memory
> 
> Any suggestions??
> 
> Thanks all;
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.

Hi,

Would more up to date packages like 'lm-sensors' and/or 'dmidecode'
possible give you the data you are looking for? Any additional
information on the data you require and how it would be used would be
advantageous.

Regards

Phil

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#261723

On 9/16/23 14:55, Phil Wyett wrote:
> On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 08:17 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>> Greetings all;
>>
>> gkrellm has traditionally used mbmon to collect the motherboard data
>> for
>> temps and voltages that it can display. Bub mbmon won't run because
>> it
>> can't find the monitor util for this mid-range asus mobo. Complains
>> because it cannot find a via-686 thing, which sounds a bit dated to
>> me.
>>
>> I just spent around 3 hours with synaptic looking for likely suspects
>> w/o any hits.
>>
>> Asus z-370 mobo, i5 flavor full 32G memory
>>
>> Any suggestions??
>>
>> Thanks all;
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Would more up to date packages like 'lm-sensors' and/or 'dmidecode'
> possible give you the data you are looking for? Any additional
> information on the data you require and how it would be used would be
> advantageous.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Phil
> 
Both of those are the newest versions according to apt.
Thanks Phll


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>

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On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 17:06 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 9/16/23 14:55, Phil Wyett wrote:
> > On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 08:17 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > > Greetings all;
> > > 
> > > gkrellm has traditionally used mbmon to collect the motherboard
> > > data
> > > for
> > > temps and voltages that it can display. Bub mbmon won't run
> > > because
> > > it
> > > can't find the monitor util for this mid-range asus mobo.
> > > Complains
> > > because it cannot find a via-686 thing, which sounds a bit dated
> > > to
> > > me.
> > > 
> > > I just spent around 3 hours with synaptic looking for likely
> > > suspects
> > > w/o any hits.
> > > 
> > > Asus z-370 mobo, i5 flavor full 32G memory
> > > 
> > > Any suggestions??
> > > 
> > > Thanks all;
> > > 
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Would more up to date packages like 'lm-sensors' and/or 'dmidecode'
> > possible give you the data you are looking for? Any additional
> > information on the data you require and how it would be used would
> > be
> > advantageous.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Phil
> > 
> Both of those are the newest versions according to apt.
> Thanks Phll
> 
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.

Hi,

gkrellm does not depend on mbmon currently. mbmom should not be part of
a current conversation regarding use of gkrellm as I see it.

What data are you wanting from the motherboard and what have you tried
thus far?

Notes:

gkrellm depends on gtk2 and should be avoided IMHO.

Both gkrellm and especially mbmon are very dated and IMHO should not be
used with newer hardware as they likely do not fit requirements.

Regards

Phil

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#261730

On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 10:26:51 +0100
Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> wrote:

> Both gkrellm and especially mbmon are very dated and IMHO should not
> be used with newer hardware as they likely do not fit requirements.

Interesting Phillip. 

I am running Bookworm on older hardware, and all the glitches
experienced, have blamed on Bookworm. I think it was released still
containing many bugs?

6.1.0-12-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.52-1 (2023-09-07)
x86_64 GNU/Linux

• The address bar in Claws Mail is flaky, It doesn't show the addresses
  unless you use the scroll bar and then you can see each one, after a
  fashion. If you try to type in the address, is splits it up and puts
  some of the address on a differently line. So the emails don't send,
  because the address is incorrect.

• The touch pad cursor is twitchy sometimes and a real pain to with work
  sometimes.

• LyX doesn't allow you to change the Latex(pdflatex) file formats
  to evince so it works, uses Gimp because it was installed after
  evince.

• WIFI connection drops out after hibernating.

Some of the issues I am working through. However, I thought this was
Bookworm as this hardware worked well with Bullseye.

Will get there eventually.

Charlie
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On Sun, 2023-09-17 at 20:07 +1000, Charlie wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 10:26:51 +0100
> Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> wrote:
> 
> > Both gkrellm and especially mbmon are very dated and IMHO should
> > not
> > be used with newer hardware as they likely do not fit requirements.
> 
> Interesting Phillip. 
> 
> I am running Bookworm on older hardware, and all the glitches
> experienced, have blamed on Bookworm. I think it was released still
> containing many bugs?
> 
> 6.1.0-12-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.52-1 (2023-09-07)
> x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> • The address bar in Claws Mail is flaky, It doesn't show the
> addresses
>   unless you use the scroll bar and then you can see each one, after
> a
>   fashion. If you try to type in the address, is splits it up and
> puts
>   some of the address on a differently line. So the emails don't
> send,
>   because the address is incorrect.
> 
> • The touch pad cursor is twitchy sometimes and a real pain to with
> work
>   sometimes.
> 
> • LyX doesn't allow you to change the Latex(pdflatex) file formats
>   to evince so it works, uses Gimp because it was installed after
>   evince.
> 
> • WIFI connection drops out after hibernating.
> 
> Some of the issues I am working through. However, I thought this was
> Bookworm as this hardware worked well with Bullseye.
> 
> Will get there eventually.
> 
> Charlie

Hi Charlie,

If you are looking for assistance on a subject or issue via this list.
It is protocol to start a new thread and not add it to another thread.

Have you created bug reports on the Bug Tracking System (BTS)[1]
regarding any of your issues? As the saying goes, if it is not in the
bug tracker it does not exist.

[1] https://www.debian.org/Bugs/

also

https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

Regards

Phil

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#261734

On 9/17/23 05:35, Phil Wyett wrote:
> On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 17:06 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>> On 9/16/23 14:55, Phil Wyett wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 08:17 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>>>> Greetings all;
>>>>
>>>> gkrellm has traditionally used mbmon to collect the motherboard
>>>> data
>>>> for
>>>> temps and voltages that it can display. Bub mbmon won't run
>>>> because
>>>> it
>>>> can't find the monitor util for this mid-range asus mobo.
>>>> Complains
>>>> because it cannot find a via-686 thing, which sounds a bit dated
>>>> to
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> I just spent around 3 hours with synaptic looking for likely
>>>> suspects
>>>> w/o any hits.
>>>>
>>>> Asus z-370 mobo, i5 flavor full 32G memory
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all;
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Would more up to date packages like 'lm-sensors' and/or 'dmidecode'
>>> possible give you the data you are looking for? Any additional
>>> information on the data you require and how it would be used would
>>> be
>>> advantageous.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>> Both of those are the newest versions according to apt.
>> Thanks Phll
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> gkrellm does not depend on mbmon currently. mbmom should not be part of
> a current conversation regarding use of gkrellm as I see it.
> 
> What data are you wanting from the motherboard and what have you tried
> thus far?
> 
> Notes:
> 
> gkrellm depends on gtk2 and should be avoided IMHO.
> 
> Both gkrellm and especially mbmon are very dated and IMHO should not be
> used with newer hardware as they likely do not fit requirements.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Phil
> 
No doubt true, but I've not found anything else you can park along the 
edge of the screen on every workspace so you've a constantly visible 
machine status. And I've not found anything that can report psu etc 
voltages, or fan speeds from those that have tach's since buster.  Temps 
and other stuff still work though.  I find it handier than the lock 
button on the outhouse door at a family picnic. If Bill wilson has 
dropped it, what are folks using now?

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>

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On Sun, 2023-09-17 at 06:39 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 9/17/23 05:35, Phil Wyett wrote:
> > On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 17:06 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > > On 9/16/23 14:55, Phil Wyett wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 08:17 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > > > > Greetings all;
> > > > > 
> > > > > gkrellm has traditionally used mbmon to collect the
> > > > > motherboard
> > > > > data
> > > > > for
> > > > > temps and voltages that it can display. Bub mbmon won't run
> > > > > because
> > > > > it
> > > > > can't find the monitor util for this mid-range asus mobo.
> > > > > Complains
> > > > > because it cannot find a via-686 thing, which sounds a bit
> > > > > dated
> > > > > to
> > > > > me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I just spent around 3 hours with synaptic looking for likely
> > > > > suspects
> > > > > w/o any hits.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Asus z-370 mobo, i5 flavor full 32G memory
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any suggestions??
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks all;
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > Would more up to date packages like 'lm-sensors' and/or
> > > > 'dmidecode'
> > > > possible give you the data you are looking for? Any additional
> > > > information on the data you require and how it would be used
> > > > would
> > > > be
> > > > advantageous.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards
> > > > 
> > > > Phil
> > > > 
> > > Both of those are the newest versions according to apt.
> > > Thanks Phll
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > gkrellm does not depend on mbmon currently. mbmom should not be
> > part of
> > a current conversation regarding use of gkrellm as I see it.
> > 
> > What data are you wanting from the motherboard and what have you
> > tried
> > thus far?
> > 
> > Notes:
> > 
> > gkrellm depends on gtk2 and should be avoided IMHO.
> > 
> > Both gkrellm and especially mbmon are very dated and IMHO should
> > not be
> > used with newer hardware as they likely do not fit requirements.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Phil
> > 
> No doubt true, but I've not found anything else you can park along
> the 
> edge of the screen on every workspace so you've a constantly visible 
> machine status. And I've not found anything that can report psu etc 
> voltages, or fan speeds from those that have tach's since buster. 
> Temps 
> and other stuff still work though.  I find it handier than the lock 
> button on the outhouse door at a family picnic. If Bill wilson has 
> dropped it, what are folks using now?
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.

Hi Gene,

Regarding edge of screen data like we are discussing. I personally use
the gnome desktop and have the 'Resource Monitor'[1] extension
installed. This allows for the displaying of a large amount of data.

For other data I use 'lm-sensors' from the terminal. This may offer you
more data, but only you can test and see.

'gkrellm' had its last git commit 3 years ago, so maybe the project is
stale. Only upstream could tell you that. Maybe ask upstream if
development is ongoing, a port to gtk 3 or 4 is in the works or what
the projects plans are in general?

[1] https://github.com/0ry0n/Resource_Monitor/

Regards

Phil

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#261743

On 9/17/23 08:50, Darac Marjal wrote:
> 
> On 17/09/2023 11:39, gene heskett wrote:
>> On 9/17/23 05:35, Phil Wyett wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 17:06 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>>>> On 9/16/23 14:55, Phil Wyett wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 2023-09-16 at 08:17 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>>>>>> Greetings all;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gkrellm has traditionally used mbmon to collect the motherboard
>>>>>> data
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> temps and voltages that it can display. Bub mbmon won't run
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> can't find the monitor util for this mid-range asus mobo.
>>>>>> Complains
>>>>>> because it cannot find a via-686 thing, which sounds a bit dated
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just spent around 3 hours with synaptic looking for likely
>>>>>> suspects
>>>>>> w/o any hits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asus z-370 mobo, i5 flavor full 32G memory
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks all;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Would more up to date packages like 'lm-sensors' and/or 'dmidecode'
>>>>> possible give you the data you are looking for? Any additional
>>>>> information on the data you require and how it would be used would
>>>>> be
>>>>> advantageous.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil
>>>>>
>>>> Both of those are the newest versions according to apt.
>>>> Thanks Phll
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> gkrellm does not depend on mbmon currently. mbmom should not be part of
>>> a current conversation regarding use of gkrellm as I see it.
>>>
>>> What data are you wanting from the motherboard and what have you tried
>>> thus far?
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>>
>>> gkrellm depends on gtk2 and should be avoided IMHO.
>>>
>>> Both gkrellm and especially mbmon are very dated and IMHO should not be
>>> used with newer hardware as they likely do not fit requirements.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>> No doubt true, but I've not found anything else you can park along the 
>> edge of the screen on every workspace so you've a constantly visible 
>> machine status. And I've not found anything that can report psu etc 
>> voltages, or fan speeds from those that have tach's since buster. 
>> Temps and other stuff still work though.  I find it handier than the 
>> lock button on the outhouse door at a family picnic. If Bill wilson 
>> has dropped it, what are folks using now?
> 
> In the world of i3 window managers (i3, i3gaps, sway etc), there is a 
> convention to have a "bar" along the top or bottom edge of the screen. 
> i3 is a tiling window manager so it's not usual to have a taskbar, but 
> it's still useful to have somewhere to put "widgets" such as the system 
> tray and the "bar" fulfils this function. There is a "bar" protocol 
> allowing several programs to exist which handle the actual rendering of 
> the bar, plus nearly all of these bars use an accompanying "status" 
> program to provide the actual content. The "status" program (i3status, 
> py3status, conky etc) handles all the hard work of querying sensors, 
> finding free space etc and presents it in a text form to the bar.
> 
> The upshot of this is that the "bar" and "status" programs can, with a 
> bit of tinkering, present live statistics of just about any part of your 
> system (personally, my bar consists of: the weather, disk space, memory 
> usage, CPU usage, CPU temperature, network throughput, battery level, 
> headphone battery level, sound system volume, backlight level, date and 
> time).
> 
> You don't need to switch to a tiling window manager to use a bar, 
> though. https://github.com/polybar/polybar/wiki claims to work quite 
> nicely with window mangers such as GNOME or KDE's.
> 
> 
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
sounds promising, I;ll look into some of them. Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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#261738 — Replacing Gkrellm (was: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages)

> gkrellm depends on gtk2 and should be avoided IMHO.

Gkrellm's maintenance is indeed a worry, but I haven't found anything
even remotely competitive as a replacement in terms and quantity and
quality of information it's able to show me in a small space (about my
machine as well as about my servers).  I usually have it show me the
recent history of CPU use and disk use plus a few temps.

What do other people use instead?


        Stefan

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#261739 — Re: Replacing Gkrellm (was: trying to make gkerelln show motherbord temp and voltages)

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On Sun, 2023-09-17 at 13:26 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > gkrellm depends on gtk2 and should be avoided IMHO.
> 
> Gkrellm's maintenance is indeed a worry, but I haven't found anything
> even remotely competitive as a replacement in terms and quantity and
> quality of information it's able to show me in a small space (about
> my
> machine as well as about my servers).  I usually have it show me the
> recent history of CPU use and disk use plus a few temps.
> 
> What do other people use instead?
> 
> 
>         Stefan
> 

Hi Stefan,

Please see other replies in this thread from Darac and myself.

Hopefully others will also reply with their setups and solutions
related to this threads subject matter.

Regards

Phil

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#261810 — Re: Replacing Gkrellm

>> What do other people use instead?
> Please see other replies in this thread from Darac and myself.

I had seen them before I posted my question :-(
IIUC they don't support reporting data about remote hosts, nor do
they seem to offer a comparably compact representation of the data.


        Stefan

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