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smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help

Started bygene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
First post2024-01-13 03:50 +0100
Last post2024-01-19 21:10 +0100
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  smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-13 03:50 +0100
    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help "Gareth Evans" <donotspam@fastmail.fm> - 2024-01-13 04:00 +0100
    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-01-13 04:00 +0100
      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-13 06:00 +0100
        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-01-13 16:50 +0100
          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-13 18:10 +0100
          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-13 18:30 +0100
            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-01-13 19:50 +0100
              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-14 00:30 +0100
                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2024-01-14 14:40 +0100
      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-01-14 11:40 +0100
        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-01-14 17:30 +0100
    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-01-13 06:40 +0100
    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-14 13:50 +0100
      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-14 20:50 +0100
        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-15 01:50 +0100
          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-15 02:20 +0100
            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-15 14:50 +0100
              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-01-15 19:50 +0100
                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-15 23:00 +0100
              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-15 21:00 +0100
                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-16 00:20 +0100
                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-16 01:00 +0100
                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-16 01:10 +0100
                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-16 00:50 +0100
                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-16 01:10 +0100
                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-16 01:20 +0100
                      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-16 02:40 +0100
                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-16 03:20 +0100
                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-16 04:00 +0100
                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-01-16 07:00 +0100
                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> - 2024-01-16 09:20 +0100
                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-01-16 12:10 +0100
                      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Valerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it> - 2024-01-16 13:40 +0100
                      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-17 01:20 +0100
                      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 03:00 +0100
                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-16 16:00 +0100
                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-16 15:10 +0100
                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-01-16 15:40 +0100
                      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-16 15:50 +0100
                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-17 01:20 +0100
                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-16 17:10 +0100
                      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 03:20 +0100
                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-17 07:00 +0100
                          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 15:30 +0100
                            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-17 18:10 +0100
                              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-17 18:30 +0100
                                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-17 20:40 +0100
                                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 21:40 +0100
                                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-17 22:20 +0100
                                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 22:40 +0100
                                    normally start new xterms [was: Re: smartctl cannot access my  storage, need syntax help] Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-18 17:40 +0100
                                      Re: normally start new xterms "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-18 20:10 +0100
                                        Re: normally start new xterms conover@panix.com (John Conover) - 2024-01-18 20:20 +0100
                                          Re: normally start new xterms "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-18 21:20 +0100
                                            Re: normally start new xterms conover@panix.com (John Conover) - 2024-01-18 21:40 +0100
                                        Re: normally start new xterms <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-19 06:50 +0100
                                          Re: normally start new xterms <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-19 09:10 +0100
                                            Re: normally start new xterms "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-19 10:20 +0100
                                              Re: normally start new xterms <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-19 10:40 +0100
                                          Re: normally start new xterms "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-19 09:10 +0100
                                            Re: normally start new xterms David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-19 18:10 +0100
                                          Re: normally start new xterms Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2024-01-19 15:20 +0100
                                            Re: normally start new xterms <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-19 16:10 +0100
                                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-18 04:50 +0100
                                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-17 22:20 +0100
                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-17 08:50 +0100
                          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 16:40 +0100
                            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-17 17:40 +0100
                              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 21:20 +0100
                                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 22:10 +0100
                          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-01-17 17:40 +0100
                            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-17 18:20 +0100
                              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 21:40 +0100
                                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-17 22:50 +0100
                                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-18 01:00 +0100
                                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-18 02:00 +0100
                                      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-18 05:30 +0100
                                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-18 07:00 +0100
                                          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-18 07:50 +0100
                                            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-18 10:00 +0100
                                              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-18 12:50 +0100
                                                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-18 22:10 +0100
                                                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-19 07:00 +0100
                                                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-19 08:30 +0100
                                                      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-19 22:00 +0100
                                                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-20 01:20 +0100
                                                          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-01-20 02:30 +0100
                                                            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-20 06:40 +0100
                                                              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-20 08:00 +0100
                                                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-20 16:30 +0100
                                                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-20 21:30 +0100
                                                      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-21 06:40 +0100
                                                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-21 07:40 +0100
                                                          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-21 12:50 +0100
                                                            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-21 22:20 +0100
                                                              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-21 23:50 +0100
                                                                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-22 00:30 +0100
                                                                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-22 06:50 +0100
                                                                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-22 10:50 +0100
                                                                      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-22 12:30 +0100
                                                                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-22 19:00 +0100
                                                                          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-22 20:40 +0100
                                                                            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-22 22:10 +0100
                                                                            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-23 00:50 +0100
                                                                              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-23 03:50 +0100
                                                                                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-23 04:00 +0100
                                                                                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-23 05:00 +0100
                                                                                    Powered USB hub [was: Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need  syntax help] Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-23 05:20 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Powered USB hub [was: Re: smartctl cannot access my storage,  needsyntax help] gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-23 06:10 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Powered USB hub [was: Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help] Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-01-25 11:00 +0100
                                                                                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-23 08:40 +0100
                                                                                      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-23 12:10 +0100
                                                                                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-23 04:50 +0100
                                                                                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-23 12:50 +0100
                                                                                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Karl Vogel <vogelke@pobox.com> - 2024-01-23 06:40 +0100
                                                                                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-23 12:10 +0100
                                                                                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Gremlin <scott-andrews@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-01-23 12:20 +0100
                                                                                      Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-23 12:40 +0100
                                                                                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-01-25 15:10 +0100
                                                                                          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2024-01-25 18:20 +0100
                                                                                            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-01-26 12:50 +0100
                                                                                            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-29 06:20 +0100
                                                                                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Karl Vogel <vogelke@pobox.com> - 2024-01-24 09:30 +0100
                                                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-21 10:40 +0100
                                                          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-21 18:40 +0100
                                              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-19 05:10 +0100
                                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-18 08:40 +0100
                                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-01-19 09:20 +0100
                                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2024-01-19 11:00 +0100
                                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-19 13:10 +0100
                                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-19 13:00 +0100
                              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2024-01-18 17:40 +0100
                            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 21:20 +0100
                          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-17 18:10 +0100
                        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-01-18 08:20 +0100
                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 02:10 +0100
                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2024-01-17 03:00 +0100
                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-01-17 05:10 +0100
        Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-15 08:50 +0100
          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-15 15:50 +0100
            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-15 23:00 +0100
              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-16 00:40 +0100
                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-16 00:50 +0100
                Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-01-16 07:10 +0100
                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-01-16 07:20 +0100
                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-01-16 17:40 +0100
                    Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 02:50 +0100
                  Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-17 02:30 +0100
          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-15 17:10 +0100
            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-16 00:10 +0100
          Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-01-16 21:00 +0100
            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-16 22:10 +0100
              To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannot  access my storage, need syntax help) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-01-16 22:40 +0100
                Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl cannot  access my storage, need syntax help) Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2024-01-18 02:00 +0100
                  Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl  cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help) gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2024-01-18 04:40 +0100
                    Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl  cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help) Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2024-01-18 17:30 +0100
                      Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl  cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-01-18 18:10 +0100
                  Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl  cannot access my storage, need syntax help) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-01-18 15:20 +0100
                    Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl  cannot access my storage, need syntax help) Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2024-01-18 17:10 +0100
              Re: mdraid construction and testing (was: smartctl cannot access my  stor...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2024-01-16 23:00 +0100
                Testing storage performance (Was Re: mdraid construction and testing  (was: smartctl cannot access my stor...)) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2024-01-17 04:40 +0100
            Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-01-19 09:10 +0100
              Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl  cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help) Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-01-19 20:10 +0100
                Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl  cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help) Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2024-01-19 20:20 +0100
                  Re: To partition or not to partition MD arrays (Was Re: smartctl  cannotaccess my storage, need syntax help) Franco Martelli <martellif67@gmail.com> - 2024-01-19 20:50 +0100
              Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2024-01-19 21:10 +0100

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#266001

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2024-01-15 21:00 +0100
Message-ID<HWBhL-3jQw-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265987
On Mon 15 Jan 2024 at 08:39:37 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> On 1/14/24 20:19, gene heskett wrote:
> > On 1/14/24 19:48, David Wright wrote:
> > > On Sun 14 Jan 2024 at 14:48:49 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> > > > On 1/14/24 07:42, David Christensen wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > I am confused -- do you have 4 or 5 Gigastone 2 TB SSD?
> > > > 
> > > > 5,  ordered in 2 separate orders.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   > So that one could be formatted ext4 and serve as a
> > > > > backup of the raid10.
> > > > What I am trying to do now, but cannot if it is plugged into a
> > > > motherboard port, hence the repeat of this exercise on the 2nd sata
> > > > card.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   > how do I make an image of that
> > > > >   > raid10  to /dev/sde and get every byte?  That
> > > > > seems like the first step
> > > > >   > to me.
> > > > This I am still trying to do, the first pass copied all 350G of /home
> > > > but went to the wrong drive, and I had mounted the drive by its label.
> > > > It is now /dev/sdh and all labels above it are now wrong. Crazy.
> > > > These SSD's all have an OTP serial number. I am tempted to use that
> > > > serial number as a label _I_ can control. And according to gparted,
> > > > labels do not survive being incorporated into a raid as the raid is
> > > > all labeled with hostname : partition number. So there really is no
> > > > way in linux to define a drive that is that drive forever. Unreal...
> > > 
> > > Interesting to see in how many differents ways you can use the
> > > term "label". BTW I have no idea what an "OTP serial number" is.
> > > 
> > OTP=One Time Pad, never to be used again.

I too can lookup acronyms with ease. I asked about "OTP serial number",
not "OTP" serial number.

> I moved the data cable to where I knew I could find it again, as one
> of 5 drives attached to the 16 port card,

No idea what that means.

> and on reboot it shows up in
> an lsblk list as:
> root@coyote:~# lsblk

[ … table showing five Samsungs, five Gigastones, and two
    other items, perhaps printer (confirmed later) and camera … ]

> Now confirmed by looking at all 5 with gparted, there are only 3
> unique serial numbers:

I don't see any parted output.

> root@coyote:~# ls /dev/disk/by-id

ls -1   would at least sort out this mess, but more useful would be ls -l
or  for j in /dev/disk/by-id/* ; do printf '%s\t%s\n' "$(realpath "$j")" "$j" ; done
as you could then see what the symlinks point to, which after all
is their raison d'être.

Extracting:

> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206

these devices appear to have normal serial numbers. Do they bear
any other indication, like engravings or stickers? If not, I would,
in turn, plug each one in, read the serial number from its symlink,
and write on it with a marker. While doing that, you could also
run smartctl.

> only 3 unique serial numbers!!!!!!
> udev when finding that situation should scream from the rooftops!!
> not silently overwrite an entry in the by-id that its already made.

If you say so. I never had any problem with udev when I had
three identical USB sticks with the "serial" number
ID_SERIAL=SMI_USB_DISK-0:0
I scratched distinguishing letter on them, and watched xconsole for
the drive letter whenever I plugged one in. At 8GB a piece, the
largest I had at the time, they were very useful. And they didn't
cost me a penny as they were giveaways.

> HTH do I fix that?
> can tune2fs edit a serial number? no.
> can the UUID be rendered read-only, no.
> gparted and similar can change the UUID by a click of the mouse.
> I'm officially screwed and I have had them too long to return them now.

You need to find out, in turn, which ones work, and that goes for
both the SSDs and wherever you plug them in. You can make little
progress at all without distinguishing them, as you have already
shown by copying data to who knows where.

> That could even explain why my first run of rsync worked fine but went
> to a drive that was NOT mounted.  And it was mounted by LABEL= The
> only one of those 5 SSD's I had labeled at that time.

You haven't shown any evidence of such LABELling, and most of your
anecdotal narratives don't give much confidence for us to really
know what was actually done. But to be fair, anything could
happen if the hardware is not working properly.

Cheers,
David.

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#266018

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2024-01-16 00:20 +0100
Message-ID<HWEpj-3m0d-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266001
On 1/15/24 14:56, gene heskett wrote:
> root@coyote:~# for j in /dev/disk/by-id/* ; do printf '%s\t%s\n' 
> "$(realpath "$j")" "$j" ; done
> /dev/sr0        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ATAPI_iHAS424_B_3524253_327133504865
> /dev/sdi        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
> /dev/sdj1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146-part1
> /dev/sdh        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
> /dev/sdh1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102-part1
> /dev/sdk        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
> /dev/sdk1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206-part1
> /dev/sdf        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T

> ... 2 pairs with identical "serial numbers", ...


Are you certain that it is not two drives that fail to connect at boot? 
You previously posted smartctl reports indicating a bad SATA connection.


If you disconnect everything except one Gigastone SSD, connect it to a 
known good motherboard SATA port using a known good SATA cable, connect 
it to a known good PSU power cable, boot live media into a rescue shell, 
examine the Gigastone, write down the serial number, shutdown, and 
repeat for the four other Gigastone drives, can you confirm the 
duplicate serial numbers?


David

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#266024

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2024-01-16 01:00 +0100
Message-ID<HWF21-3mdg-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266018
On 1/15/24 18:15, David Christensen wrote:
> On 1/15/24 14:56, gene heskett wrote:
>> root@coyote:~# for j in /dev/disk/by-id/* ; do printf '%s\t%s\n' 
>> "$(realpath "$j")" "$j" ; done
>> /dev/sr0        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ATAPI_iHAS424_B_3524253_327133504865
>> /dev/sdi        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
>> /dev/sdj1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146-part1
>> /dev/sdh        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
>> /dev/sdh1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102-part1
>> /dev/sdk        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
>> /dev/sdk1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206-part1
>> /dev/sdf        
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T
> 
>> ... 2 pairs with identical "serial numbers", ...
> 
> 
> Are you certain that it is not two drives that fail to connect at boot? 
> You previously posted smartctl reports indicating a bad SATA connection.
> 
> 
> If you disconnect everything except one Gigastone SSD, connect it to a 
> known good motherboard SATA port using a known good SATA cable, connect 
> it to a known good PSU power cable, boot live media into a rescue shell, 
> examine the Gigastone, write down the serial number, shutdown, and 
> repeat for the four other Gigastone drives, can you confirm the 
> duplicate serial numbers?
> 
The serial number that shows in the pix I just posted is everything 
right of the SSD_ above up to the "part1"  If there is a different one 
some place, tell me how to extract it. In the 6 entries above there are 
only 3 unique numbers. If gparted is showing me a pack of lies, show me 
how to prove gparted is lieing,
> 
> David
> 
> .

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#266025

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2024-01-16 01:10 +0100
Message-ID<HWFbH-3mvB-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266024
On 1/15/24 15:53, gene heskett wrote:
> On 1/15/24 18:15, David Christensen wrote:
>> On 1/15/24 14:56, gene heskett wrote:
>>> root@coyote:~# for j in /dev/disk/by-id/* ; do printf '%s\t%s\n' 
>>> "$(realpath "$j")" "$j" ; done
>>> /dev/sr0        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ATAPI_iHAS424_B_3524253_327133504865
>>> /dev/sdi        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
>>> /dev/sdj1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146-part1
>>> /dev/sdh        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
>>> /dev/sdh1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102-part1
>>> /dev/sdk        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
>>> /dev/sdk1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206-part1
>>> /dev/sdf /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T
>>
>>> ... 2 pairs with identical "serial numbers", ...
>>
>>
>> Are you certain that it is not two drives that fail to connect at 
>> boot? You previously posted smartctl reports indicating a bad SATA 
>> connection.
>>
>>
>> If you disconnect everything except one Gigastone SSD, connect it to a 
>> known good motherboard SATA port using a known good SATA cable, 
>> connect it to a known good PSU power cable, boot live media into a 
>> rescue shell, examine the Gigastone, write down the serial number, 
>> shutdown, and repeat for the four other Gigastone drives, can you 
>> confirm the duplicate serial numbers?
>>
> The serial number that shows in the pix I just posted is everything 
> right of the SSD_ above up to the "part1"  If there is a different one 
> some place, tell me how to extract it. In the 6 entries above there are 
> only 3 unique numbers. If gparted is showing me a pack of lies, show me 
> how to prove gparted is lieing,


I have no confidence in the Debian instance on your computer.  I think 
your first priority should be to back up your data, using Debian 
installer media, Debian live, a Debian USB drive you make yourself, or 
some other known good live media.


David

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#266023

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2024-01-16 00:50 +0100
Message-ID<HWESl-3m9R-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266001
On 1/15/24 17:58, gene heskett wrote:
> On 1/15/24 14:55, David Wright wrote:
>> On Mon 15 Jan 2024 at 08:39:37 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
>>> On 1/14/24 20:19, gene heskett wrote:
>>>> On 1/14/24 19:48, David Wright wrote:
>>>>> On Sun 14 Jan 2024 at 14:48:49 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/14/24 07:42, David Christensen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am confused -- do you have 4 or 5 Gigastone 2 TB SSD?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5,  ordered in 2 separate orders.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > So that one could be formatted ext4 and serve as a
>>>>>>> backup of the raid10.
>>>>>> What I am trying to do now, but cannot if it is plugged into a
>>>>>> motherboard port, hence the repeat of this exercise on the 2nd sata
>>>>>> card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    > how do I make an image of that
>>>>>>>    > raid10  to /dev/sde and get every byte?  That
>>>>>>> seems like the first step
>>>>>>>    > to me.
>>>>>> This I am still trying to do, the first pass copied all 350G of /home
>>>>>> but went to the wrong drive, and I had mounted the drive by its 
>>>>>> label.
>>>>>> It is now /dev/sdh and all labels above it are now wrong. Crazy.
>>>>>> These SSD's all have an OTP serial number. I am tempted to use that
>>>>>> serial number as a label _I_ can control. And according to gparted,
>>>>>> labels do not survive being incorporated into a raid as the raid is
>>>>>> all labeled with hostname : partition number. So there really is no
>>>>>> way in linux to define a drive that is that drive forever. Unreal...
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting to see in how many differents ways you can use the
>>>>> term "label". BTW I have no idea what an "OTP serial number" is.
>>>>>
>>>> OTP=One Time Pad, never to be used again.
>>
>> I too can lookup acronyms with ease. I asked about "OTP serial number",
>> not "OTP" serial number.
>>
>>> I moved the data cable to where I knew I could find it again, as one
>>> of 5 drives attached to the 16 port card,
>>
>> No idea what that means.
>>
>>> and on reboot it shows up in
>>> an lsblk list as:
>>> root@coyote:~# lsblk
>>
>> [ … table showing five Samsungs, five Gigastones, and two
>>      other items, perhaps printer (confirmed later) and camera … ]
>>
>>> Now confirmed by looking at all 5 with gparted, there are only 3
>>> unique serial numbers:
>>
>> I don't see any parted output.
> cuz it doesn't want to be copy/pasted.
>>
>>> root@coyote:~# ls /dev/disk/by-id
>>
>> ls -1   would at least sort out this mess, but more useful would be ls -l
>> or  for j in /dev/disk/by-id/* ; do printf '%s\t%s\n' "$(realpath 
>> "$j")" "$j" ; done
>> as you could then see what the symlinks point to, which after all
>> is their raison d'être.
> Thanks for that composition: but it will be word wrapped:
> root@coyote:~# for j in /dev/disk/by-id/* ; do printf '%s\t%s\n' 
> "$(realpath "$j")" "$j" ; done
> /dev/sr0        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ATAPI_iHAS424_B_3524253_327133504865
> /dev/sdi        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
> /dev/sdj1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146-part1
> /dev/sdh        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
> /dev/sdh1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102-part1
> /dev/sdk        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
> /dev/sdk1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206-part1
> /dev/sdf        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T
> /dev/sdf1 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part1
> /dev/sdf2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part2
> /dev/sdf3 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part3
> /dev/sde        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E
> /dev/sde1 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part1
> /dev/sde2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part2
> /dev/sde3 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part3
> /dev/sdd        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V
> /dev/sdd1 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part1
> /dev/sdd2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part2
> /dev/sdd3 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part3
> /dev/sdg        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W
> /dev/sdg1 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part1
> /dev/sdg2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part2
> /dev/sdg3 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part3
> /dev/sda        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V
> /dev/sda1 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part1
> /dev/sda2 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part2
> /dev/sda3 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part3
> /dev/md0        /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:0
> /dev/md0p1      /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:0-part1
> /dev/md2        /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:2
> /dev/md1        /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-_none_:1
> /dev/md0        /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-3d5a3621:c0e32c8a:e3f7ebb3:318edbfb
> /dev/md0p1 
> /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-3d5a3621:c0e32c8a:e3f7ebb3:318edbfb-part1
> /dev/md1        /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-57a88605:27f5a773:5be347c1:7c5e7342
> /dev/md2        /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-bb6e03ce:19d290c8:5171004f:0127a392
> /dev/sdc        /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Brother_MFC-J6920DW_BROG5F229909-0:0
> /dev/sdb        
> /dev/disk/by-id/usb-USB_Mass_Storage_Device_816820130806-0:0
> /dev/sdf        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5
> /dev/sdf1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part1
> /dev/sdf2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part2
> /dev/sdf3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part3
> /dev/sde        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9
> /dev/sde1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part1
> /dev/sde2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part2
> /dev/sde3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part3
> /dev/sdd        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae
> /dev/sdd1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part1
> /dev/sdd2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part2
> /dev/sdd3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part3
> /dev/sdg        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0
> /dev/sdg1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part1
> /dev/sdg2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part2
> /dev/sdg3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part3
> /dev/sda        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e
> /dev/sda1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part1
> /dev/sda2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part2
> /dev/sda3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part3
> root@coyote:~#
> but like I wrote, 2 pairs with identical "serial numbers", so the 
> assunption is that the last one overwrites the first on by udev, when 
> IMO it should be yelling about the duplicats.
>>
>> Extracting:
>>
>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
>>
>> these devices appear to have normal serial numbers. Do they bear
>> any other indication, like engravings or stickers? If not, I would,
>> in turn, plug each one in, read the serial number from its symlink,
>> and write on it with a marker. While doing that, you could also
>> run smartctl.
>>
>>> only 3 unique serial numbers!!!!!!
>>> udev when finding that situation should scream from the rooftops!!
>>> not silently overwrite an entry in the by-id that its already made.
>>
>> If you say so. I never had any problem with udev when I had
>> three identical USB sticks with the "serial" number
>> ID_SERIAL=SMI_USB_DISK-0:0
>> I scratched distinguishing letter on them, and watched xconsole for
>> the drive letter whenever I plugged one in. At 8GB a piece, the
>> largest I had at the time, they were very useful. And they didn't
>> cost me a penny as they were giveaways.
>>
>>> HTH do I fix that?
>>> can tune2fs edit a serial number? no.
>>> can the UUID be rendered read-only, no.
>>> gparted and similar can change the UUID by a click of the mouse.
>>> I'm officially screwed and I have had them too long to return them now.
>>
>> You need to find out, in turn, which ones work, and that goes for
>> both the SSDs and wherever you plug them in. You can make little
>> progress at all without distinguishing them, as you have already
>> shown by copying data to who knows where.
> 
> Which occurred before I knew about the dups. Now you seem intent on 
> calling me a liar, which I do not intentionally do.  I have now LABELed 
> the drives but the only way I can prove it to you ts seems would be to 
> take screen snapshots x5 of them, and one of those would be too big for 
> the server.
> 
> Now, I have spent since around 08:30 my time this morning trying to 
> backup this raid with around 350G of data on it, to one of those 2T 
> gigastones but have lost the whole system because (apparently) rsync has 
> a huge memory leak, the system is fine, until I start as root
> 
> "rsync -av --bwlimit=3m --fsync /home/ /mnt/homevol"
> 
> which is where /dev/sdh1 is mounted. watch the system with htop, memory 
> bar goes to full scale in tan, in 10 to 15 minutes and into swap 500 
> kilobytes in another 5 if OOM hasn't killed htop, the OOM daemon starts 
> killing things, and is not the least fussy what.
> 
> I have tried it without the --bwlimit and --fsync but that just bombs 
> the system faster. I thought I was overpower the write speed of the 
> drive but slowing it to garden slug speeds still eats memory and the 
> system gets killed. 38G of 350G is as far as I'm managed to get copied 
> from 08:30 to 17:35. If that commandline above it correct, then as 
> AFAIAC rsync is busted. The memory gauge bar is in 3 colors, green at 
> the left is I prsume allocated mamory, next is red (cache maybe) and 
> then tan or orange. The man page does not define what color signifies 
> which but run rsync, it runs to the right end of the bar in orange/tan, 
> then into swap and the system slowly dies.
> 
> I'm not a great user of rsync, use mc more often than not. I just have 
> seen it take up from where the reset or power switch was used to reboot 
> cuz the control of the system had been killed.  So the command line 
> above might be the problem.  You tell me, please.
> 
>>> That could even explain why my first run of rsync worked fine but went
>>> to a drive that was NOT mounted.  And it was mounted by LABEL= The
>>> only one of those 5 SSD's I had labeled at that time.
>>
>> You haven't shown any evidence of such LABELling, and most of your
>> anecdotal narratives don't give much confidence for us to really
>> know what was actually done. But to be fair, anything could
>> happen if the hardware is not working properly.
> I give up, lets see if a gparted screenshot comes thru. there was one 
> attached when I hit send.
> 
>> Cheers,
>> David.
>>

whoppie-ding, it worked. call me a liar again.
>> .
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
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-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
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#266026

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2024-01-16 01:10 +0100
Message-ID<HWFbH-3mvB-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266023
On 1/15/24 18:41, gene heskett wrote:
> On 1/15/24 17:58, gene heskett wrote:
>> On 1/15/24 14:55, David Wright wrote:
>>> On Mon 15 Jan 2024 at 08:39:37 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
>>>> On 1/14/24 20:19, gene heskett wrote:
>>>>> On 1/14/24 19:48, David Wright wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun 14 Jan 2024 at 14:48:49 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/14/24 07:42, David Christensen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am confused -- do you have 4 or 5 Gigastone 2 TB SSD?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5,  ordered in 2 separate orders.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    > So that one could be formatted ext4 and serve as a
>>>>>>>> backup of the raid10.
>>>>>>> What I am trying to do now, but cannot if it is plugged into a
>>>>>>> motherboard port, hence the repeat of thnis exercise on the 2nd sata
>>>>>>> card.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    > how do I make an image of that
>>>>>>>>    > raid10  to /dev/sde and get every byte?  That
>>>>>>>> seems like the first step
>>>>>>>>    > to me.
>>>>>>> This I am still trying to do, the first pass copied all 350G of 
>>>>>>> /home
>>>>>>> but went to the wrong drive, and I had mounted the drive by its 
>>>>>>> label.
>>>>>>> It is now /dev/sdh and all labels above it are now wrong. Crazy.
>>>>>>> These SSD's all have an OTP serial number. I am tempted to use that
>>>>>>> serial number as a label _I_ can control. And according to gparted,
>>>>>>> labels do not survive being incorporated into a raid as the raid is
>>>>>>> all labeled with hostname : partition number. So there really is no
>>>>>>> way in linux to define a drive that is that drive forever. Unreal...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting to see in how many differents ways you can use the
>>>>>> term "label". BTW I have no idea what an "OTP serial number" is.
>>>>>>
>>>>> OTP=One Time Pad, never to be used again.
>>>
>>> I too can lookup acronyms with ease. I asked about "OTP serial number",
>>> not "OTP" serial number.
>>>
>>>> I moved the data cable to where I knew I could find it again, as one
>>>> of 5 drives attached to the 16 port card,
>>>
>>> No idea what that means.
>>>
>>>> and on reboot it shows up in
>>>> an lsblk list as:
>>>> root@coyote:~# lsblk
>>>
>>> [ … table showing five Samsungs, five Gigastones, and two
>>>      other items, perhaps printer (confirmed later) and camera … ]
>>>
>>>> Now confirmed by looking at all 5 with gparted, there are only 3
>>>> unique serial numbers:
>>>
>>> I don't see any parted output.
>> cuz it doesn't want to be copy/pasted.
>>>
>>>> root@coyote:~# ls /dev/disk/by-id
>>>
>>> ls -1   would at least sort out this mess, but more useful would be 
>>> ls -l
>>> or  for j in /dev/disk/by-id/* ; do printf '%s\t%s\n' "$(realpath 
>>> "$j")" "$j" ; done
>>> as you could then see what the symlinks point to, which after all
>>> is their raison d'être.
>> Thanks for that composition: but it will be word wrapped:
>> root@coyote:~# for j in /dev/disk/by-id/* ; do printf '%s\t%s\n' 
>> "$(realpath "$j")" "$j" ; done
>> /dev/sr0        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ATAPI_iHAS424_B_3524253_327133504865
>> /dev/sdi        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
>> /dev/sdj1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146-part1
>> /dev/sdh        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
>> /dev/sdh1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102-part1
>> /dev/sdk        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
>> /dev/sdk1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206-part1
>> /dev/sdf        
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T
>> /dev/sdf1 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part1
>> /dev/sdf2 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part2
>> /dev/sdf3 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part3
>> /dev/sde        
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E
>> /dev/sde1 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part1
>> /dev/sde2 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part2
>> /dev/sde3 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part3
>> /dev/sdd        
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V
>> /dev/sdd1 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part1
>> /dev/sdd2 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part2
>> /dev/sdd3 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part3
>> /dev/sdg        
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W
>> /dev/sdg1 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part1
>> /dev/sdg2 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part2
>> /dev/sdg3 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part3
>> /dev/sda        
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V
>> /dev/sda1 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part1
>> /dev/sda2 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part2
>> /dev/sda3 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part3
>> /dev/md0        /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:0
>> /dev/md0p1      /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:0-part1
>> /dev/md2        /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:2
>> /dev/md1        /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-_none_:1
>> /dev/md0        
>> /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-3d5a3621:c0e32c8a:e3f7ebb3:318edbfb
>> /dev/md0p1 
>> /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-3d5a3621:c0e32c8a:e3f7ebb3:318edbfb-part1
>> /dev/md1        
>> /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-57a88605:27f5a773:5be347c1:7c5e7342
>> /dev/md2        
>> /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-bb6e03ce:19d290c8:5171004f:0127a392
>> /dev/sdc        /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Brother_MFC-J6920DW_BROG5F229909-0:0
>> /dev/sdb /dev/disk/by-id/usb-USB_Mass_Storage_Device_816820130806-0:0
>> /dev/sdf        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5
>> /dev/sdf1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part1
>> /dev/sdf2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part2
>> /dev/sdf3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part3
>> /dev/sde        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9
>> /dev/sde1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part1
>> /dev/sde2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part2
>> /dev/sde3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part3
>> /dev/sdd        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae
>> /dev/sdd1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part1
>> /dev/sdd2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part2
>> /dev/sdd3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part3
>> /dev/sdg        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0
>> /dev/sdg1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part1
>> /dev/sdg2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part2
>> /dev/sdg3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part3
>> /dev/sda        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e
>> /dev/sda1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part1
>> /dev/sda2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part2
>> /dev/sda3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part3
>> root@coyote:~#
>> but like I wrote, 2 pairs with identical "serial numbers", so the 
>> assunption is that the last one overwrites the first on by udev, when 
>> IMO it should be yelling about the duplicats.
>>>
>>> Extracting:
>>>
>>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
>>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
>>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
>>>
>>> these devices appear to have normal serial numbers. Do they bear
>>> any other indication, like engravings or stickers? If not, I would,
>>> in turn, plug each one in, read the serial number from its symlink,
>>> and write on it with a marker. While doing that, you could also
>>> run smartctl.
>>>
There is a sticker on the bottom containing the numbers you see above, 
and a (upc?) bar code I don't have a reader for.
>>>> only 3 unique serial numbers!!!!!!
>>>> udev when finding that situation should scream from the rooftops!!
>>>> not silently overwrite an entry in the by-id that its already made.
>>>
>>> If you say so. I never had any problem with udev when I had
>>> three identical USB sticks with the "serial" number
>>> ID_SERIAL=SMI_USB_DISK-0:0
>>> I scratched distinguishing letter on them, and watched xconsole for
>>> the drive letter whenever I plugged one in. At 8GB a piece, the
>>> largest I had at the time, they were very useful. And they didn't
>>> cost me a penny as they were giveaways.
>>>
>>>> HTH do I fix that?
>>>> can tune2fs edit a serial number? no.
>>>> can the UUID be rendered read-only, no.
>>>> gparted and similar can change the UUID by a click of the mouse.
>>>> I'm officially screwed and I have had them too long to return them now.
>>>
>>> You need to find out, in turn, which ones work, and that goes for
>>> both the SSDs and wherever you plug them in. You can make little
>>> progress at all without distinguishing them, as you have already
>>> shown by copying data to who knows where.
>>
>> Which occurred before I knew about the dups. Now you seem intent on 
>> calling me a liar, which I do not intentionally do.  I have now 
>> LABELed the drives but the only way I can prove it to you ts seems 
>> would be to take screen snapshots x5 of them, and one of those would 
>> be too big for the server.
>>
>> Now, I have spent since around 08:30 my time this morning trying to 
>> backup this raid with around 350G of data on it, to one of those 2T 
>> gigastones but have lost the whole system because (apparently) rsync 
>> has a huge memory leak, the system is fine, until I start as root
>>
>> "rsync -av --bwlimit=3m --fsync /home/ /mnt/homevol"
>>
>> which is where /dev/sdh1 is mounted. watch the system with htop, 
>> memory bar goes to full scale in tan, in 10 to 15 minutes and into 
>> swap 500 kilobytes in another 5 if OOM hasn't killed htop, the OOM 
>> daemon starts killing things, and is not the least fussy what.
>>
>> I have tried it without the --bwlimit and --fsync but that just bombs 
>> the system faster. I thought I was overpower the write speed of the 
>> drive but slowing it to garden slug speeds still eats memory and the 
>> system gets killed. 38G of 350G is as far as I'm managed to get copied 
>> from 08:30 to 17:35. If that commandline above it correct, then as 
>> AFAIAC rsync is busted. The memory gauge bar is in 3 colors, green at 
>> the left is I prsume allocated mamory, next is red (cache maybe) and 
>> then tan or orange. The man page does not define what color signifies 
>> which but run rsync, it runs to the right end of the bar in 
>> orange/tan, then into swap and the system slowly dies.
>>
>> I'm not a great user of rsync, use mc more often than not. I just have 
>> seen it take up from where the reset or power switch was used to 
>> reboot cuz the control of the system had been killed.  So the command 
>> line above might be the problem.  You tell me, please.
>>
>>>> That could even explain why my first run of rsync worked fine but went
>>>> to a drive that was NOT mounted.  And it was mounted by LABEL= The
>>>> only one of those 5 SSD's I had labeled at that time.
>>>
>>> You haven't shown any evidence of such LABELling, and most of your
>>> anecdotal narratives don't give much confidence for us to really
>>> know what was actually done. But to be fair, anything could
>>> happen if the hardware is not working properly.
>> I give up, lets see if a gparted screenshot comes thru. there was one 
>> attached when I hit send.
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> David.
>>>
> 
> whoppie-ding, it worked. call me a liar again.
>>> .
>>
>> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#266027

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2024-01-16 01:20 +0100
Message-ID<HWFln-3mz8-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266026
On 1/15/24 16:03, gene heskett wrote:
> On 1/15/24 18:41, gene heskett wrote:
>> On 1/15/24 17:58, gene heskett wrote:
>>> On 1/15/24 14:55, David Wright wrote:
>>>> On Mon 15 Jan 2024 at 08:39:37 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
>>>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
>>>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
>>>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
>>>>
>>>> these devices appear to have normal serial numbers. Do they bear
>>>> any other indication, like engravings or stickers? If not, I would,
>>>> in turn, plug each one in, read the serial number from its symlink,
>>>> and write on it with a marker. While doing that, you could also
>>>> run smartctl.
>>>>
> There is a sticker on the bottom containing the numbers you see above, 
> and a (upc?) bar code I don't have a reader for.


So, two stickers have one number, two stickers have another number, and 
one sticker has a third number?  Or, three stickers have one number, one 
sticker has another number, and the last stick has a third number?


David

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#266029

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2024-01-16 02:40 +0100
Message-ID<HWGAN-3ncf-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266027
On 1/15/24 19:11, David Christensen wrote:
> On 1/15/24 16:03, gene heskett wrote:
>> On 1/15/24 18:41, gene heskett wrote:
>>> On 1/15/24 17:58, gene heskett wrote:
>>>> On 1/15/24 14:55, David Wright wrote:
>>>>> On Mon 15 Jan 2024 at 08:39:37 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
>>>>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
>>>>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
>>>>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
>>>>>
>>>>> these devices appear to have normal serial numbers. Do they bear
>>>>> any other indication, like engravings or stickers? If not, I would,
>>>>> in turn, plug each one in, read the serial number from its symlink,
>>>>> and write on it with a marker. While doing that, you could also
>>>>> run smartctl.
>>>>>
>> There is a sticker on the bottom containing the numbers you see above, 
>> and a (upc?) bar code I don't have a reader for.
> 
> 
> So, two stickers have one number, two stickers have another number, and 
> one sticker has a third number?  Or, three stickers have one number, one 
> sticker has another number, and the last stick has a third number?

5 ssd's
3 unique numbers on those 5 stickerss the same numbers you can see 
above. 2 drives with the same sticker, 2 more drive that have identical 
sticks and one with a different sticker. I am inclined to think the 
numbers are based on production batches, and not unique as there may be 
500 in each batch.
> 
> David
> 
> .

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#266030

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2024-01-16 03:20 +0100
Message-ID<HWHdv-3nDw-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266029
On 1/15/24 17:31, gene heskett wrote:
> On 1/15/24 19:11, David Christensen wrote:
>> On 1/15/24 16:03, gene heskett wrote:
>>> On 1/15/24 18:41, gene heskett wrote:
>>>> On 1/15/24 17:58, gene heskett wrote:
>>>>> On 1/15/24 14:55, David Wright wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon 15 Jan 2024 at 08:39:37 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
>>>>>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
>>>>>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
>>>>>>> ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
>>>>>>
>>>>>> these devices appear to have normal serial numbers. Do they bear
>>>>>> any other indication, like engravings or stickers? If not, I would,
>>>>>> in turn, plug each one in, read the serial number from its symlink,
>>>>>> and write on it with a marker. While doing that, you could also
>>>>>> run smartctl.
>>>>>>
>>> There is a sticker on the bottom containing the numbers you see 
>>> above, and a (upc?) bar code I don't have a reader for.
>>
>>
>> So, two stickers have one number, two stickers have another number, 
>> and one sticker has a third number?  Or, three stickers have one 
>> number, one sticker has another number, and the last stick has a third 
>> number?
> 
> 5 ssd's
> 3 unique numbers on those 5 stickerss the same numbers you can see 
> above. 2 drives with the same sticker, 2 more drive that have identical 
> sticks and one with a different sticker. I am inclined to think the 
> numbers are based on production batches, and not unique as there may be 
> 500 in each batch.


Duplicate serial numbers are going to cause confusion.


If any of the drives with duplicate numbers are eligible for return, I 
would return them.  If not, perhaps you could resell them to somebody.


If you are going to keep them, I seem to recall that all five drives 
were partitioned with GPT and had one large partition (?).  You could 
invent a unique identifier for each drive, put a physical label on each 
drive, and assign the same identifier to each GPT partition label.


Alternatively, UUID's and/or PARTUUID's should be unique for both MBR 
and GPT:

# ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/

# ls -l /dev/disk/by-partuuid/


David

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#266033

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2024-01-16 04:00 +0100
Message-ID<HWHQd-3nQb-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266029
On Mon 15 Jan 2024 at 20:31:55 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> On 1/15/24 19:11, David Christensen wrote:
> > On 1/15/24 16:03, gene heskett wrote:
> > > On 1/15/24 18:41, gene heskett wrote:
> > > > On 1/15/24 17:58, gene heskett wrote:
> > > > > On 1/15/24 14:55, David Wright wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon 15 Jan 2024 at 08:39:37 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> > > > > > > ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
> > > > > > > ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
> > > > > > > ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > these devices appear to have normal serial numbers. Do they bear
> > > > > > any other indication, like engravings or stickers? If not, I would,
> > > > > > in turn, plug each one in, read the serial number from its symlink,
> > > > > > and write on it with a marker. While doing that, you could also
> > > > > > run smartctl.
> > > > > > 
> > > There is a sticker on the bottom containing the numbers you
> > > see above, and a (upc?) bar code I don't have a reader for.
> > 
> > So, two stickers have one number, two stickers have another
> > number, and one sticker has a third number?  Or, three stickers
> > have one number, one sticker has another number, and the last
> > stick has a third number?
> 
> 5 ssd's
> 3 unique numbers on those 5 stickerss the same numbers you can see
> above. 2 drives with the same sticker, 2 more drive that have
> identical sticks and one with a different sticker. I am inclined to
> think the numbers are based on production batches, and not unique as
> there may be 500 in each batch.

Ouch. Well that leaves you with several choices, like exchanging two
of them, or moving them to different machines, or using them for
backing up but not at the same time as their twin. That's if your
use case relies on their serial numbers.

If you're using them in a more conventional manner, where UUIDs,
LABELs, PARTUUIDs and PARTLABELs are stable, and serial numbers
are ignored, then you should have no problems. Just start by
inserting them separately for partitioning and filesystem creation
with unique strings.

But obviously step one is labelling them (unless you're exchanging
two of them in nearly-new condition).

BTW, I wrote:

  > You haven't shown any evidence of such LABELling, and most of your
  > anecdotal narratives don't give much confidence for us to really
  > know what was actually done. But to be fair, anything could
  > happen if the hardware is not working properly.

Nothing at all there about lying.

Cheers,
David.

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#266038

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2024-01-16 07:00 +0100
Message-ID<HWKEq-3pFQ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266001
gene heskett composed on 2024-01-15 17:56 (UTC-0500):

> Thanks for that composition: but it will be word wrapped:
> root@coyote:~# for j in /dev/disk/by-id/* ; do printf '%s\t%s\n' 
> "$(realpath "$j")" "$j" ; done
> /dev/sr0        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ATAPI_iHAS424_B_3524253_327133504865
> /dev/sdi        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
> /dev/sdj1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146-part1
> /dev/sdh        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
> /dev/sdh1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102-part1
> /dev/sdk        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
> /dev/sdk1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206-part1
> /dev/sdf        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T
> /dev/sdf1 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part1
> /dev/sdf2 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part2
> /dev/sdf3 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part3
> /dev/sde        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E
> /dev/sde1 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part1
> /dev/sde2 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part2
> /dev/sde3 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part3
> /dev/sdd        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V
> /dev/sdd1 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part1
> /dev/sdd2 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part2
> /dev/sdd3 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part3
> /dev/sdg        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W
> /dev/sdg1 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part1
> /dev/sdg2 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part2
> /dev/sdg3 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part3
> /dev/sda        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V
> /dev/sda1 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part1
> /dev/sda2 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part2
> /dev/sda3 
> /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part3
> /dev/md0        /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:0
> /dev/md0p1      /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:0-part1
> /dev/md2        /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:2
> /dev/md1        /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-_none_:1
> /dev/md0        /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-3d5a3621:c0e32c8a:e3f7ebb3:318edbfb
> /dev/md0p1 
> /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-3d5a3621:c0e32c8a:e3f7ebb3:318edbfb-part1
> /dev/md1        /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-57a88605:27f5a773:5be347c1:7c5e7342
> /dev/md2        /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-bb6e03ce:19d290c8:5171004f:0127a392
> /dev/sdc        /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Brother_MFC-J6920DW_BROG5F229909-0:0
> /dev/sdb        /dev/disk/by-id/usb-USB_Mass_Storage_Device_816820130806-0:0
> /dev/sdf        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5
> /dev/sdf1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part1
> /dev/sdf2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part2
> /dev/sdf3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part3
> /dev/sde        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9
> /dev/sde1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part1
> /dev/sde2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part2
> /dev/sde3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part3
> /dev/sdd        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae
> /dev/sdd1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part1
> /dev/sdd2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part2
> /dev/sdd3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part3
> /dev/sdg        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0
> /dev/sdg1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part1
> /dev/sdg2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part2
> /dev/sdg3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part3
> /dev/sda        /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e
> /dev/sda1       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part1
> /dev/sda2       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part2
> /dev/sda3       /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part3
> root@coyote:~#
> but like I wrote, 2 pairs with identical "serial numbers", so the 
> assunption is that the last one overwrites the first on by udev, when 
> IMO it should be yelling about the duplicats.
 
I straightened out the wrapping mess, and gave each entry a line number. I see
nothing I recognize as representing serial number duplication among /dev/sdX
(physical device) names:

/dev/md0     1  /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:0
/dev/md0     2  /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-3d5a3621:c0e32c8a:e3f7ebb3:318edbfb
/dev/md0p1   3  /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:0-part1
/dev/md0p1   4  /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-3d5a3621:c0e32c8a:e3f7ebb3:318edbfb-part1
/dev/md1     5  /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-_none_:1
/dev/md1     6  /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-57a88605:27f5a773:5be347c1:7c5e7342
/dev/md2     7  /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:2
/dev/md2     8  /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-bb6e03ce:19d290c8:5171004f:0127a392
/dev/sda     9  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V
/dev/sda    10  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e
/dev/sda1   11  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part1
/dev/sda1   12  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part1
/dev/sda2   13  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part2
/dev/sda2   14  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part2
/dev/sda3   15  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part3
/dev/sda3   16  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part3
/dev/sdb    17  /dev/disk/by-id/usb-USB_Mass_Storage_Device_816820130806-0:0
/dev/sdc    18  /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Brother_MFC-J6920DW_BROG5F229909-0:0	# How does a printer get a storage device assignment???
/dev/sdd    19  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V
/dev/sdd    20  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae
/dev/sdd1   21  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part1
/dev/sdd1   22  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part1
/dev/sdd2   23  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part2
/dev/sdd2   24  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part2
/dev/sdd3   25  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part3
/dev/sdd3   26  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part3
/dev/sde    27  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9
/dev/sde    28  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E
/dev/sde1   29  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part1
/dev/sde1   30  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part1
/dev/sde2   31  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part2
/dev/sde2   32  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part2
/dev/sde3   33  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part3
/dev/sde3   34  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part3
/dev/sdf    35  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5
/dev/sdf    36  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T
/dev/sdf1   37  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part1
/dev/sdf1   38  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part1
/dev/sdf2   39  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part2
/dev/sdf2   40  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part2
/dev/sdf3   41  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part3
/dev/sdf3   42  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part3
/dev/sdg    43  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W
/dev/sdg    44  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0
/dev/sdg1   45  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part1
/dev/sdg1   46  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part1
/dev/sdg2   47  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part2
/dev/sdg2   48  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part2
/dev/sdg3   49  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part3
/dev/sdg3   50  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part3
/dev/sdh    51  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
/dev/sdh1   52  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102-part1
/dev/sdi    53  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
/dev/sdj1   54  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146-part1
/dev/sdk    55  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
/dev/sdk1   56  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206-part1
/dev/sr0    57  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ATAPI_iHAS424_B_3524253_327133504865

Exactly which line numbers represent duplication among the physical drives?
-- 
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	based on faith, not based on science.

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#266047

FromTom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk>
Date2024-01-16 09:20 +0100
Message-ID<HWMPT-3r7T-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266038
Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> writes:

> /dev/sdc 18 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Brother_MFC-J6920DW_BROG5F229909-0:0 #
> How does a printer get a storage device assignment???

By having some kind of SD card slot or similar.

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#266055

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2024-01-16 12:10 +0100
Message-ID<HWPup-3sMH-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266047
Tom Furie composed on 2024-01-16 08:18 (UTC):

> Felix Miata writes:

>> /dev/sdc 18 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Brother_MFC-J6920DW_BROG5F229909-0:0 #
>> How does a printer get a storage device assignment???

> By having some kind of SD card slot or similar.

So this pollution only results from a USB-connected printer? IP printer
connections don't cause it too?
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
	based on faith, not based on science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata

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#266060

FromValerio Vanni <valerio.vanni@inwind.it>
Date2024-01-16 13:40 +0100
Message-ID<HWQTv-3txv-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266055
Il 16/01/2024 12:08, Felix Miata ha scritto:
> Tom Furie composed on 2024-01-16 08:18 (UTC):
> 
>> Felix Miata writes:
> 
>>> /dev/sdc 18 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Brother_MFC-J6920DW_BROG5F229909-0:0 #
>>> How does a printer get a storage device assignment???
> 
>> By having some kind of SD card slot or similar.
> 
> So this pollution only results from a USB-connected printer? IP printer
> connections don't cause it too?
Yes, IP printers don't.

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#266092

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2024-01-17 01:20 +0100
Message-ID<HX1OV-3Aoi-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266055
On Tue 16 Jan 2024 at 06:08:35 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> Tom Furie composed on 2024-01-16 08:18 (UTC):
> > Felix Miata writes:
> 
> >> /dev/sdc 18 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Brother_MFC-J6920DW_BROG5F229909-0:0 #
> >> How does a printer get a storage device assignment???
> 
> > By having some kind of SD card slot or similar.
> 
> So this pollution only results from a USB-connected printer? IP printer
> connections don't cause it too?

AIUI (not very well), you only get a /dev/sdX when the linux kernel
is what's writing the blocks on the filesystem.

So when I plug in my Galaxy 4 mobile and tap the appropriate buttons
on its screen, /dev/sdb{,1} appear as a block device and partition:

  sdb           8:16   1  29.7G  0 disk  
  └─sdb1        8:17   1  29.7G  0 part  

so I can run fdisk on the SD card while in the phone, for example:

  $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
  Disk /dev/sdb: 29.72 GiB, 31914983424 bytes, 62333952 sectors
  Disk model: S5360 Card      
  Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
  Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
  I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
  Disklabel type: dos
  Disk identifier: 0x03399e11

  Device     Boot Start      End  Sectors  Size Id Type
  /dev/sdb1        2048 62333951 62331904 29.7G  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
  $ 

OTOH with my A13 phone, I don't get a block device created, but just
a FUSE wrapper round the filesystems that Android is running, both
internal and any SD card:

  $ mount
  [ … ]
  aft-mtp-mount on /media/samsungd type fuse.aft-mtp-mount (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000)
  $ 

Cheers,
David.

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#266097

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2024-01-17 03:00 +0100
Message-ID<HX3nH-3B7R-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266055
On 1/16/24 06:09, Felix Miata wrote:
> Tom Furie composed on 2024-01-16 08:18 (UTC):
> 
>> Felix Miata writes:
> 
>>> /dev/sdc 18 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Brother_MFC-J6920DW_BROG5F229909-0:0 #
>>> How does a printer get a storage device assignment???
> 
>> By having some kind of SD card slot or similar.
> 
> So this pollution only results from a USB-connected printer? IP printer
> connections don't cause it too?

Since I have one of the above printers it does indeed have an editable 
ipv4 address, but I don't generally use it as the usb2 is faster. Its 
been so long since I did use that interface that I do not recall if it 
listed the card memory.  I'd expect it would since it can also to a free 
standing copy from its tabloid sized scanner.  The printer can handle 
tabloid sized paper by hand feeding, so the copy function includes 
tabloid size too.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#266073

FromMax Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Date2024-01-16 16:00 +0100
Message-ID<HWT4Z-3uPs-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266047
On 16/01/2024 15:18, Tom Furie wrote:
>> /dev/sdc 18 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Brother_MFC-J6920DW_BROG5F229909-0:0 #
>> How does a printer get a storage device assignment???
> 
> By having some kind of SD card slot or similar.

I have heard that some devices expose a USB mass storage interface out 
of the box to autorun an installer when the device is plugged. Finally 
the installer switches the device to its normal mode. On Linux 
usb-modeswitch might be required.

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#266070

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2024-01-16 15:10 +0100
Message-ID<HWSiC-3uxJ-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266038
On Tue 16 Jan 2024 at 00:55:52 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> gene heskett composed on 2024-01-15 17:56 (UTC-0500):
> 
> > Thanks for that composition: but it will be word wrapped:
> > root@coyote:~# for j in /dev/disk/by-id/* ; do printf '%s\t%s\n' 
> > "$(realpath "$j")" "$j" ; done
> > /dev/sr0        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ATAPI_iHAS424_B_3524253_327133504865
> > /dev/sdi        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
> > /dev/sdj1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146-part1

It's right here at the top.

[ … ]

> > root@coyote:~#
> > but like I wrote, 2 pairs with identical "serial numbers", so the 
> > assunption is that the last one overwrites the first on by udev, when 
> > IMO it should be yelling about the duplicats.
>  
> I straightened out the wrapping mess, and gave each entry a line number. I see
> nothing I recognize as representing serial number duplication among /dev/sdX
> (physical device) names:
> 
> /dev/md0     1  /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:0
> /dev/md0     2  /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-3d5a3621:c0e32c8a:e3f7ebb3:318edbfb
> /dev/md0p1   3  /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:0-part1
> /dev/md0p1   4  /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-3d5a3621:c0e32c8a:e3f7ebb3:318edbfb-part1
> /dev/md1     5  /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-_none_:1
> /dev/md1     6  /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-57a88605:27f5a773:5be347c1:7c5e7342
> /dev/md2     7  /dev/disk/by-id/md-name-coyote:2
> /dev/md2     8  /dev/disk/by-id/md-uuid-bb6e03ce:19d290c8:5171004f:0127a392
> /dev/sda     9  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V
> /dev/sda    10  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e
> /dev/sda1   11  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part1
> /dev/sda1   12  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part1
> /dev/sda2   13  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part2
> /dev/sda2   14  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part2
> /dev/sda3   15  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_QVO_1TB_S5RRNF0T201730V-part3
> /dev/sda3   16  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f42205e8e-part3
> /dev/sdb    17  /dev/disk/by-id/usb-USB_Mass_Storage_Device_816820130806-0:0
> /dev/sdc    18  /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Brother_MFC-J6920DW_BROG5F229909-0:0	# How does a printer get a storage device assignment???

I'd /love/ my HP8500 scanner (that's all that works now) to have
the USB stick (which I scan onto) be visible to a connected PC
or the network. Is that what /dev/sdc is?

> /dev/sdd    19  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V
> /dev/sdd    20  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae
> /dev/sdd1   21  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part1
> /dev/sdd1   22  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part1
> /dev/sdd2   23  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part2
> /dev/sdd2   24  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part2
> /dev/sdd3   25  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302507V-part3
> /dev/sdd3   26  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394ae-part3
> /dev/sde    27  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9
> /dev/sde    28  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E
> /dev/sde1   29  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part1
> /dev/sde1   30  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part1
> /dev/sde2   31  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part2
> /dev/sde2   32  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part2
> /dev/sde3   33  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302502E-part3
> /dev/sde3   34  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a9-part3
> /dev/sdf    35  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5
> /dev/sdf    36  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T
> /dev/sdf1   37  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part1
> /dev/sdf1   38  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part1
> /dev/sdf2   39  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part2
> /dev/sdf2   40  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part2
> /dev/sdf3   41  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302498T-part3
> /dev/sdf3   42  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394a5-part3
> /dev/sdg    43  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W
> /dev/sdg    44  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0
> /dev/sdg1   45  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part1
> /dev/sdg1   46  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part1
> /dev/sdg2   47  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part2
> /dev/sdg2   48  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part2
> /dev/sdg3   49  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Samsung_SSD_870_EVO_1TB_S626NF0R302509W-part3
> /dev/sdg3   50  /dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x5002538f413394b0-part3
> /dev/sdh    51  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102
> /dev/sdh1   52  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTD02TB230102-part1
> /dev/sdi    53  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
> /dev/sdj1   54  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146-part1

  ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ that is /really/ bad!

> /dev/sdk    55  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206
> /dev/sdk1   56  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GSTG02TB230206-part1
> /dev/sr0    57  /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ATAPI_iHAS424_B_3524253_327133504865
> 
> Exactly which line numbers represent duplication among the physical drives?

Cheers,
David.

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#266071

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2024-01-16 15:40 +0100
Message-ID<HWSLE-3uIz-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266070
David Wright composed on 2024-01-16 08:05 (UTC-0600):

> On Tue 16 Jan 2024 at 00:55:52 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:

>> gene heskett composed on 2024-01-15 17:56 (UTC-0500):

>>> Thanks for that composition: but it will be word wrapped:
>>> root@coyote:~# for j in /dev/disk/by-id/* ; do printf '%s\t%s\n' 
>>> "$(realpath "$j")" "$j" ; done
>>> /dev/sr0        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ATAPI_iHAS424_B_3524253_327133504865
>>> /dev/sdi        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
>>> /dev/sdj1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146-part1

> It's right here at the top.

I missed that, probably because i & j look similar in the big sea of
alphanumerics, /and/ sdi has no partitions, while sdj1 has no parent disk. That
seems to smell as much like a bug somewhere as two different disks with the same
serial number, a cheap SATA port card maybe. Does ...1146 get duplication like
that when connected to any/every available SATA port?
-- 
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	based on faith, not based on science.

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#266072

FromGreg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Date2024-01-16 15:50 +0100
Message-ID<HWSVj-3uMd-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#266071
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 09:31:54AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> David Wright composed on 2024-01-16 08:05 (UTC-0600):
> 
> > On Tue 16 Jan 2024 at 00:55:52 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> 
> >> gene heskett composed on 2024-01-15 17:56 (UTC-0500):
> 
> >>> Thanks for that composition: but it will be word wrapped:
> >>> root@coyote:~# for j in /dev/disk/by-id/* ; do printf '%s\t%s\n' 
> >>> "$(realpath "$j")" "$j" ; done
> >>> /dev/sr0        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-ATAPI_iHAS424_B_3524253_327133504865
> >>> /dev/sdi        /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146
> >>> /dev/sdj1       /dev/disk/by-id/ata-Gigastone_SSD_GST02TBG221146-part1
> 
> > It's right here at the top.
> 
> I missed that, probably because i & j look similar in the big sea of
> alphanumerics, /and/ sdi has no partitions, while sdj1 has no parent disk. That
> seems to smell as much like a bug somewhere as two different disks with the same
> serial number, a cheap SATA port card maybe. Does ...1146 get duplication like
> that when connected to any/every available SATA port?

I missed it too.  It actually looks like someone copy/pasted the
pathnames on the right, but then manually typed the device names on
the left, and made a typo here.  Or, somehow, the device names and
the pathnames got mixed together, and someone tried to separate them
manually, and got these two crossed.

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