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  xfce screen detachment "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-01-07 05:10 +0100
    Re: xfce screen detachment Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2024-01-07 15:40 +0100
      Re: xfce screen detachment Mike Kupfer <kupfer@rawbw.com> - 2024-01-08 07:00 +0100
        Re: xfce screen detachment "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-01-08 07:20 +0100
    Re: xfce screen detachment Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 20:50 +0100
      Re: xfce screen detachment "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2024-01-12 21:10 +0100
      Re: xfce screen detachment <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-13 08:20 +0100
        Re: xfce screen detachment Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2024-01-13 12:40 +0100
          Re: xfce screen detachment <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-13 12:40 +0100

#265601 — xfce screen detachment

system:  amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor

I don't know precisely how to describe the problem, other than
"detachment".  About every week or so, when using the rodent, the
entire screen -- borders and all -- moves with respect to the monitor
screen as I move the mouse.   

The only recovery method I have discovered is to reboot.

My hands and finders no longer are working well, so I likely clicked
on something or pressed a key to cause the problem.

RLH

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#265609

Russell L. Harris wrote: 
> system:  amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor
> 
> I don't know precisely how to describe the problem, other than
> "detachment".  About every week or so, when using the rodent, the
> entire screen -- borders and all -- moves with respect to the monitor
> screen as I move the mouse.
> 
> The only recovery method I have discovered is to reboot.
> 
> My hands and finders no longer are working well, so I likely clicked
> on something or pressed a key to cause the problem.

That sounds something like having an X11 screen larger than the
monitor it is on, and X panning around that. Typically, though,
panning requires the mouse to hit the border of the monitor.

If that's what is happening, try right clicking-on the desktop
to get the application menu, and run Settings => Desktop; then
reset the resolution to what your monitor actually supports.

You might also check if some key is being held down on your
keyboard, or if your mouse buttons are misfiring.

-dsr-

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#265641

Dan Ritter wrote:

> Russell L. Harris wrote: 
> > system:  amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor
[...]
> That sounds something like having an X11 screen larger than the
> monitor it is on, and X panning around that. Typically, though,
> panning requires the mouse to hit the border of the monitor.
> 
> If that's what is happening, try right clicking-on the desktop
> to get the application menu, and run Settings => Desktop; then
> reset the resolution to what your monitor actually supports.

FWIW, I've noticed that Xfce eventually gets confused about the settings
for my display.  I don't know what triggers it, but I'll suddenly notice
that the display has gone from 1920x1200 to 1920x1080.  Resetting it
works (under Display, not Desktop).  I don't see the problem with MATE,
KDE, Cinnamon, or i3.

This is on Debian 11, amd64 desktop (radeon 3000 video), Acer 23"
monitor.

regards,
mike

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#265642

On Sun, Jan 07, 2024 at 09:32:55PM -0800, Mike Kupfer wrote:
>Dan Ritter wrote:
>
>> Russell L. Harris wrote:
>> > system:  amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor
>[...]
>> That sounds something like having an X11 screen larger than the
>> monitor it is on, and X panning around that. Typically, though,
>> panning requires the mouse to hit the border of the monitor.
>>
>> If that's what is happening, try right clicking-on the desktop
>> to get the application menu, and run Settings => Desktop; then
>> reset the resolution to what your monitor actually supports.
>
>FWIW, I've noticed that Xfce eventually gets confused about the settings
>for my display.  I don't know what triggers it, but I'll suddenly notice
>that the display has gone from 1920x1200 to 1920x1080.  Resetting it
>works (under Display, not Desktop).  I don't see the problem with MATE,
>KDE, Cinnamon, or i3.
>
>This is on Debian 11, amd64 desktop (radeon 3000 video), Acer 23"
>monitor.
>

I opened the display settings, but whatever I did did not correct the
problem.  The next time it happens I try display settings again and
pay closer attention.  Thanks.  RLH

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#265850

On 1/8/24, mick.crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2024-01-07 04:00, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>> system:  amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor
>>
>> I don't know precisely how to describe the problem, other than
>> "detachment".  About every week or so, when using the rodent, the
>> entire screen -- borders and all -- moves with respect to the monitor
>> screen as I move the mouse.
>>
>> The only recovery method I have discovered is to reboot.
>>
>> My hands and finders no longer are working well, so I likely clicked
>> on something or pressed a key to cause the problem.
>
> I get this effect if pressing Alt and moving the mouse wheel.


Me, too, in LXQt. It's HARD finding the fix until you can finally
remember it. It's easy to hit a wall of misses when searching the
Internet.

As Mick says, hold down the ALT key and scroll the mouse rodent's
wheel back and forth. I just blew up my desktop background to where it
was basically one rendition of the small gif file that's normally
tiled.

It seems to be for commendable visual accessibility purposes, but it's
sure a grouch maker until you figure out its activation/deactivation
secret, lol.

Cindy :)
-- 
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
* runs with birdseed *

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#265851

On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 02:41:47PM -0500, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
>On 1/8/24, mick.crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-01-07 04:00, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>>> system:  amd64 desktop, debian 12, xfce, NEC MultiSync EA192M monitor
>>>
>>> I don't know precisely how to describe the problem, other than
>>> "detachment".  About every week or so, when using the rodent, the
>>> entire screen -- borders and all -- moves with respect to the monitor
>>> screen as I move the mouse.
>>>
>>> The only recovery method I have discovered is to reboot.
>>>
>>> My hands and finders no longer are working well, so I likely clicked
>>> on something or pressed a key to cause the problem.
>>
>> I get this effect if pressing Alt and moving the mouse wheel.
>
>
>Me, too, in LXQt. It's HARD finding the fix until you can finally
>remember it. It's easy to hit a wall of misses when searching the
>Internet.
>
>As Mick says, hold down the ALT key and scroll the mouse rodent's
>wheel back and forth. I just blew up my desktop background to where it
>was basically one rendition of the small gif file that's normally
>tiled.
>
>It seems to be for commendable visual accessibility purposes, but it's
>sure a grouch maker until you figure out its activation/deactivation
>secret, lol.
>
>Cindy :)
>-- 
>Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
>* runs with birdseed *
>
Cindy, Thanks for taking the trouble to post the confirmation.  RLH
-- 
He turneth rivers into a wilderness, and the watersprings into dry
ground; a fruitful land into barrenness, for the wickedness of them
that dwell therein. - Psalm 107:33-34

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#265869

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On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 02:41:47PM -0500, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> On 1/8/24, mick.crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

> > I get this effect if pressing Alt and moving the mouse wheel.
> 
> 
> Me, too, in LXQt. It's HARD finding the fix until you can finally
> remember it. It's easy to hit a wall of misses when searching the
> Internet.

Ouch. GUI distopia.

Some days I'm glad I stuck to the most primitive window manager
I could get.

Cheers
-- 
t

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#265876

On 13/01/2024 14:16, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> Some days I'm glad I stuck to the most primitive window manager
> I could get.

XFree86 (X11 server) had a similar feature a quarter of century ago and 
it worked in any window managers. If an application had overloaded GUI 
that did not fit to supported monitor resolution (perhaps 800x600) then 
it was possible to set larger virtual screen. When mouse cursor touched 
border of physical screen, virtual one scrolled reveling its hidden part.

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#265877

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On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 06:31:38PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 13/01/2024 14:16, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > 
> > Some days I'm glad I stuck to the most primitive window manager
> > I could get.
> 
> XFree86 (X11 server) had a similar feature a quarter of century ago and it
> worked in any window managers. If an application had overloaded GUI that did
> not fit to supported monitor resolution (perhaps 800x600) then it was
> possible to set larger virtual screen. When mouse cursor touched border of
> physical screen, virtual one scrolled reveling its hidden part.

Good old times -- I remember :-)

Was useful when you had 640x400 pixels...

[these days the window manager does that for me, but we have an agreement
on when and how]

Cheers
-- 
t

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