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The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?

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  The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-03 18:40 +0100
    Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@debian-user.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2024-01-03 22:20 +0100
      Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-03 22:50 +0100
        Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-03 23:20 +0100
          Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:10 +0100
            Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
              Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:30 +0100
                Name calling? [WAS: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't  support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2024-01-04 00:50 +0100
              Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2024-01-04 12:00 +0100
            Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
              Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2024-01-04 14:00 +0100
          Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-01-04 00:10 +0100
            Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
        Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-01-04 00:00 +0100
          Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
            Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:30 +0100
              Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal   authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Charles Kroeger <mbone@gmx.co.uk> - 2024-01-12 08:40 +0100
                Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2024-01-12 14:20 +0100
          Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Pocket <pocket@columbus.rr.com> - 2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
            Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2024-01-04 00:30 +0100
              Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:40 +0100
            Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:30 +0100
          Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2024-01-04 00:20 +0100
        Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2024-01-04 00:50 +0100
        Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-01-04 01:00 +0100
          Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2024-01-04 01:20 +0100
    Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal  authentication. What alternatives to it exist? Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2024-01-04 01:30 +0100

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#265473

> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 7:25 AM
> From: "Bret Busby" <bret@busby.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>
>
> but, as you insist on whining, rather than making an effort, then, you
> will never be satisfied until you have caused sufficient (for you)
> gratuitous irritation...
>
Gramps,

You need to relax and play with your grandchildren more often rather than sitting in front of your computer and taking out your frustrations on young girls like me. Shame on you!!

This will be my last correspondence with grumpy old men like you.

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#265472

> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 7:14 AM
> From: "Pocket" <pocket@columbus.rr.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>
>
>
> Are you comparing the same package/version arch to debian?  The debian
> one may not be the latest and the arch is almost always the latest.
>
I totally agree with you on this point.

He quoted ArchLinux's version of wpasupplicant when I am using Debian's version.

He's like comparing apples to oranges.

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#265466

> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2024 at 6:57 AM
> From: "Bret Busby" <bret@busby.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
>
>
> I do not know whether you have heard of the search engine named google,
> but, from doing a search of the World Wide Web, using google, the
> following are some of the first results displayed.
>
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/wpa_supplicant
> - "wpa_supplicant is a cross-platform supplicant with support for WPA,
> WPA2 and WPA3 (IEEE 802.11i). It is suitable for desktops, laptops and
> embedded systems. It is the IEEE 802.1X/WPA component that is used in
> the client stations. It implements key negotiation with a WPA
> authenticator and it controls the roaming and IEEE 802.11
> authentication/association of the wireless driver."
>
As stated in my original post, I am using Debian, not ArchLinux.

So your quote from ArchLinux's wiki is irrevelant to Debian's version of wpasupplicant.

> https://w1.fi/wpa_supplicant/
> - "Linux WPA/WPA2/WPA3/IEEE 802.1X Supplicant
>
ditto

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wpa_supplicant

ditto

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#265475

On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 22:40:33 +0100
Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> wrote:

> > Are you sure? WPA3-Personal is hardly new so Bookworm should have
> > the support. Even the package description says that.
> >  
> Could you provide me the URL to the package description please?

You can get the package description of any package with:

apt-cache show

It usually includes the project web site.

To answer your question about WPA3-Personal in wpasupplicant, the
change log indicates that it was added on 2022-01-16 to version 2.10,
which is the version I have on Bookworm. Change logs and other package
documentation are usually found in /usr/share/doc/<package name>.

-- 
Does anybody read signatures any more?

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https://charlescurley.com/blog/

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#265476 — Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?

>> Are you sure? WPA3-Personal is hardly new so Bookworm should have the
>> support. Even the package description says that.
> Could you provide me the URL to the package description please?

I think it's better to refer to the actual behavior, since that's the
only thing that matters in the end.
Have you tried and filed to associate using WPA3, and do you have
reasons to believe that it's because of a missing or faulty support
in wpasupplicant?

If so, can you give us any detail to help you find a solution?


        Stefan

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#265477

On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 6:57 PM Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>
> >> Are you sure? WPA3-Personal is hardly new so Bookworm should have the
> >> support. Even the package description says that.
> > Could you provide me the URL to the package description please?
>
> I think it's better to refer to the actual behavior, since that's the
> only thing that matters in the end.
> Have you tried and filed to associate using WPA3, and do you have
> reasons to believe that it's because of a missing or faulty support
> in wpasupplicant?
>
> If so, can you give us any detail to help you find a solution?

Yeah, I was thinking something similar. It sounds like wpa_supplicant
is having trouble with a particular configuration, and OP is making
the leap that WPA3 is not supported.

I would start with a BiOS/UEFI update to ensure the radios have the
latest firmware. Then see how wpa_supplicant performs, and
troubleshoot if necessary.

Jeff

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#265478

On Wed, Jan 03 2024 at 06:36:24 PM, Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> My Debian distro has a kernel version of 6.1.69-1 and the installed wpasupplicant's version for Debian Bookworm is 2:2.10-12.
>
> I don't use Network Manager; instead I rely solely on the ifup and ifdown scripts to bring up my network interfaces.
>
> My wireless router in my BFF's residence is capable of performing WPA3-Personal authentication and so is my device.
>
> Unfortunately, the current package wpasupplicant is unable to do WPA3-Personal authentication.
>
> What alternatives to it exist?
>

I'm using bookworm and connected to wifi using WPA3-Personal right now.

$ sudo wpa_cli -i wlp2s0 status
bssid=<elided>
freq=5520
ssid=<elided>
id=0
mode=station
wifi_generation=5
pairwise_cipher=CCMP
group_cipher=CCMP
key_mgmt=SAE        <--- SAE here is WPA3-Personal
pmf=1
mgmt_group_cipher=BIP
sae_group=19
sae_h2e=0
sae_pk=0
wpa_state=COMPLETED
ip_address=192.168.1.101
p2p_device_address=<elided>
address=<elided>
uuid=<elided>
ieee80211ac=1

I'm using NetworkManager here, but it also uses wpa_supplicant for this
(I did not change NM's default here; wpa_cli is for wpasupplicant).  So
if you're having issues connecting to a WPA3 AP, you'll have better
results by describing what actual problem you're getting.

-- 
regards,
kushal

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