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Re: Dealing with SPAM.

Started byMarco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de>
First post2023-12-25 11:30 +0100
Last post2023-12-26 09:10 +0100
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  Re: Dealing with SPAM. Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2023-12-25 11:30 +0100
    Re: Dealing with SPAM. "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2023-12-25 11:50 +0100
    Re: Dealing with SPAM. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-25 13:20 +0100
      Re: Dealing with SPAM. "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2023-12-25 13:50 +0100
        Logistics vs hystereisis [was: Dealing with SPAM.] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-12-26 09:10 +0100

#265242 — Re: Dealing with SPAM.

FromMarco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de>
Date2023-12-25 11:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Dealing with SPAM.
Message-ID<HOQnD-g0xa-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
Am 25.12.2023 um 08:56:41 Uhr schrieb Brad Rogers:

> On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100
> Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Zenaan,
> 
> >OMG money! I, being Debian User it  
> 
> The best thing to do is ignore SPAM.
> 
> If you *must* reply, don't quote the whole thing and send it to the
> list *again*.  

Replying to spam will just tell the spammers that the mailbox is being
read and that makes the address much more interesting for spam.

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#265244

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Date2023-12-25 11:50 +0100
Message-ID<HOQGZ-g0DJ-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265242
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 11:19:43AM +0100, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 25.12.2023 um 08:56:41 Uhr schrieb Brad Rogers:
> 
> > On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100
> > Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Zenaan,
> > 
> > >OMG money! I, being Debian User it  
> > 
> > The best thing to do is ignore SPAM.
> > 
> > If you *must* reply, don't quote the whole thing and send it to the
> > list *again*.  
> 
> Replying to spam will just tell the spammers that the mailbox is being
> read and that makes the address much more interesting for spam.
>

If you come across spam - ignore it in the mail that's come to you.
Also check in the web mailing list archives at lists.debian.org if its come
from a list and use the button to report as spam. If it gets removed from
the publicly visible archives there, it's also then less likely to be
harvested by spambots and used again.

Andy

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#265245

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2023-12-25 13:20 +0100
Message-ID<HOS65-g1GL-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 11:19:43AM +0100, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 25.12.2023 um 08:56:41 Uhr schrieb Brad Rogers:
> 
> > On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100
> > Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Zenaan,
> > 
> > >OMG money! I, being Debian User it  
> > 
> > The best thing to do is ignore SPAM.
> > 
> > If you *must* reply, don't quote the whole thing and send it to the
> > list *again*.  
> 
> Replying to spam will just tell the spammers that the mailbox is being
> read and that makes the address much more interesting for spam.

And replying to spam replies amplifies the phenomenon yet
more. The start is actually exponential, until things start
saturating (it's actually a logistic function [1]).

Looking forward to Yet Another Of Those Nerdy Monster Threads ;-)

Cheers

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_function
-- 
t

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#265246

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2023-12-25 13:50 +0100
Message-ID<HOSz7-g1Qg-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#265245
Hi,

tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> [...] (it's actually a logistic function [1]).
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_function
> Looking forward to Yet Another Of Those Nerdy Monster Threads ;-)

Since it's happening periodically with about the same participants,
shouldn't we rather try to model it as hysteresis ?
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis
  ("Not to be confused with Hysteria.")


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#265264 — Logistics vs hystereisis [was: Dealing with SPAM.]

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2023-12-26 09:10 +0100
SubjectLogistics vs hystereisis [was: Dealing with SPAM.]
Message-ID<HPaFH-gcFG-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 01:49:17PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > [...] (it's actually a logistic function [1]).
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_function
> > Looking forward to Yet Another Of Those Nerdy Monster Threads ;-)
> 
> Since it's happening periodically with about the same participants,
> shouldn't we rather try to model it as hysteresis ?
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis
>   ("Not to be confused with Hysteria.")

You do have a point there :)

Cheers
-- 
t

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