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  LifeCD yxcv@vienna.at - 2023-12-14 12:50 +0100
    Re: LifeCD Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-12-14 19:10 +0100
      Re: LifeCD Arno Lehmann <al@its-lehmann.de> - 2023-12-14 19:40 +0100
        Re: LifeCD Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2023-12-14 21:10 +0100

#264729 — LifeCD

I no longer try to make the lifecd.img of debianworking perfect
and now I change to KNOPPER as it is really much better.

I really do recommend it.

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#264741

On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 13:41:04 +0200
yxcv@vienna.at wrote:

> I no longer try to make the lifecd.img of debianworking perfect
> and now I change to KNOPPER as it is really much better.
> 
> I really do recommend it.
> 

Knoppix is excellent for the purposes for which it is designed. But it
is not upgradable, every new Knoppix must be a new installation.

Debian is designed with a lot of effort going into making it upgradable
indefinitely, as well as for being a server OS. Knoppix is mainly
intended for troubleshooting, particularly hardware.

-- 
Joe

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#264743

Hi Joe,

On 14.12.23 at 19:01, Joe wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 13:41:04 +0200
> yxcv@vienna.at wrote:
> 
>> I no longer try to make the lifecd.img of debianworking perfect
>> and now I change to KNOPPER as it is really much better.
>>
>> I really do recommend it.
>>
> 
> Knoppix is excellent for the purposes for which it is designed. But it
> is not upgradable, every new Knoppix must be a new installation.

yxcv does explicitly *not* want to install.

> Debian is designed with a lot of effort going into making it upgradable
> indefinitely, as well as for being a server OS. Knoppix is mainly
> intended for troubleshooting, particularly hardware.

Quite so. And I doubt there are good ways to add a wide range of 
additional software, but that's something he or she will have to check 
out. Probably move to a different mailing list in between, though.

Cheers,

Arno

-- 
Arno Lehmann

IT-Service Lehmann
Sandstr. 6, 49080 Osnabrück

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#264751

On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 19:31:28 +0100
Arno Lehmann <al@its-lehmann.de> wrote:

> Hi Joe,
> 
> On 14.12.23 at 19:01, Joe wrote:
> > On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 13:41:04 +0200
> > yxcv@vienna.at wrote:
> >   
> >> I no longer try to make the lifecd.img of debianworking perfect
> >> and now I change to KNOPPER as it is really much better.
> >>
> >> I really do recommend it.
> >>  
> > 
> > Knoppix is excellent for the purposes for which it is designed. But
> > it is not upgradable, every new Knoppix must be a new installation.
> >  
> 
> yxcv does explicitly *not* want to install.

Yes, I saw the 'lifecd', but I was pointing out the difference in aims
of the two distributions, and the fact that they are not equally suited
to all purposes. Knoppix can be installed but is intended to be a live
distribution, Debian isn't really. If you want to run a portable
Debian, and I did that for a while, make a standard installation on a
USB medium.
> 
> > Debian is designed with a lot of effort going into making it
> > upgradable indefinitely, as well as for being a server OS. Knoppix
> > is mainly intended for troubleshooting, particularly hardware.  
> 
> Quite so. And I doubt there are good ways to add a wide range of 
> additional software, but that's something he or she will have to
> check out. Probably move to a different mailing list in between,
> though.

If Knoppix is run from a read-write medium rather than a CD, additional
software can be installed and persistent configurations made. It still
isn't really comfortable as a working OS (I've also tried that), it's
intended for occasional use for demonstration or troubleshooting. Your
friend has offered you a laptop he no longer uses? Run Knoppix, to see
if Debian will work and drive the hardware. But don't install Knoppix,
use Debian.

For many years I have carried with me the latest Knoppix, currently on
a micro SD card. But all my computers have Debian installed, either
stable or unstable. Horses for courses.

-- 
Joe

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