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Re: user perms

Started byDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
First post2023-12-08 18:10 +0100
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  Re: user perms David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-12-08 18:10 +0100
    Re: user perms gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-12-08 19:10 +0100

#264432 — Re: user perms

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2023-12-08 18:10 +0100
SubjectRe: user perms
Message-ID<HIMwp-ccX5-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
On Mon 13 Jun 2022 at 19:03:47 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> On 6/13/22 14:36, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 01:56:12PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:  >>
> > I appear as user 1000 seem to be stuck behind some sort of a >>
> permissions wall. > > SHOW. US.
> 
> I got tired of fighting with it Greg, so I did install #32 and installed
> gnome_desktop (that was new) and xfce4 during the install, and
> now things including the screen colors are back to normal,
> 
> I've installed the brother printers and scanner drivers and I can modify t
> them by the usual rules. I also set a root pw in addition to adding myself
> to /etc/group in the appropriate places.
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On Thu 07 Dec 2023 at 20:49:19 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
> On 12/7/23 20:24, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 08:06:52PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> > > Thats bug #1. Single for rescue demands a root pw.
> > 
> > This isn't a bug.  It's just how things *are*.
> > 
> > People who choose not to set a root password are simply setting themselves
> > up for this failure.  It *will* happen eventually.  I strongly recommend
> > setting a root password on your systems.  And you should either *use* it
> > once in a while, so you don't forget what it is, or else make it the same
> > as your regular account's password.  So you don't forget what it is.
> > 
> > If you *still* choose not to set a root password, then you will need to
> > know how to get around the issue you ran into.  You won't be able to use
> > single-user mode to rescue your system, so you'll need other ways.  There
> > are two straightforward alternatives: boot from external media (USB or CD
> > or DVD), or learn how to do the "init=/bin/bash" thing from your boot
> > loader, which includes bind-mounting /proc and /dev and so on.
> > 
> > .
> I've now set a root pw, about 34 chars, so they'll be a couple eons
> guessing it AND (horrors) have written it down.

As you set a root password on at least one machine a year ago, can you
just check that you now have a root password on all your machines,
before we have threads like this for each machine, and Greg gets hoarse.

Cheers,
David.

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#264436

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-12-08 19:10 +0100
Message-ID<HINst-cdvA-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#264432
On 12/8/23 12:11, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 13 Jun 2022 at 19:03:47 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
>> On 6/13/22 14:36, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 01:56:12PM -0400, gene heskett wrote:  >>
>>> I appear as user 1000 seem to be stuck behind some sort of a >>
>> permissions wall. > > SHOW. US.
>>
>> I got tired of fighting with it Greg, so I did install #32 and installed
>> gnome_desktop (that was new) and xfce4 during the install, and
>> now things including the screen colors are back to normal,
>>
>> I've installed the brother printers and scanner drivers and I can modify t
>> them by the usual rules. I also set a root pw in addition to adding myself
>> to /etc/group in the appropriate places.
>                                            ↑↑↑↑↑
> 
> On Thu 07 Dec 2023 at 20:49:19 (-0500), gene heskett wrote:
>> On 12/7/23 20:24, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 08:06:52PM -0500, gene heskett wrote:
>>>> Thats bug #1. Single for rescue demands a root pw.
>>>
>>> This isn't a bug.  It's just how things *are*.
>>>
>>> People who choose not to set a root password are simply setting themselves
>>> up for this failure.  It *will* happen eventually.  I strongly recommend
>>> setting a root password on your systems.  And you should either *use* it
>>> once in a while, so you don't forget what it is, or else make it the same
>>> as your regular account's password.  So you don't forget what it is.
>>>
>>> If you *still* choose not to set a root password, then you will need to
>>> know how to get around the issue you ran into.  You won't be able to use
>>> single-user mode to rescue your system, so you'll need other ways.  There
>>> are two straightforward alternatives: boot from external media (USB or CD
>>> or DVD), or learn how to do the "init=/bin/bash" thing from your boot
>>> loader, which includes bind-mounting /proc and /dev and so on.
>>>
>>> .
>> I've now set a root pw, about 34 chars, so they'll be a couple eons
>> guessing it AND (horrors) have written it down.
> 
> As you set a root password on at least one machine a year ago, can you
> just check that you now have a root password on all your machines,
> before we have threads like this for each machine, and Greg gets hoarse.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 
I have not set a root pw on any other wintel machines, they are all 
running buster because the newer python broke LinuxCNC till just 
recently.  All my arms do have it set. They are all running a late 
summer armbian jammy w/xfce4. No video on the early fall versions.

> .

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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