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texinfo infofiles

Started byChielllo Boss <chielllospam@gmail.com>
First post2023-11-25 10:10 +0100
Last post2023-11-25 16:50 +0100
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  texinfo infofiles Chielllo Boss <chielllospam@gmail.com> - 2023-11-25 10:10 +0100
    Re: texinfo infofiles gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-11-25 15:10 +0100
    Re: texinfo infofiles Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-11-25 15:30 +0100
    Re: texinfo infofiles Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> - 2023-11-25 16:50 +0100

#263818 — texinfo infofiles

FromChielllo Boss <chielllospam@gmail.com>
Date2023-11-25 10:10 +0100
Subjecttexinfo infofiles
Message-ID<HDWPL-885n-5@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Dear debian users / team, defenders of the free world, titans of the
digital age,

A new install of debian does not contain texinfo by default.
After installing texinfo, many of the info files are missing.
Only after reinstalling a package, the corresponding info file will be
installed.

I have not found a wiki page about the info utility on the debian wiki,
nor found information about installing all info files of installed packages
in a reasonably easy manner.
This may be because the search term "info" is not very useful on most
browsers.

I'm not sure if you consider this a problem, or what the best solution is.
Perhaps an easy solution exists, which I'm missing and can't find.
I'll be so brave (with my limited knowledge) to propose creating a wiki
page for the info utility,
where problems like these can be covered.


With kind regards,
Machiel

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#263826

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-11-25 15:10 +0100
Message-ID<HE1w6-8bTU-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#263818
On 11/25/23 04:03, Chielllo Boss wrote:
> Dear debian users / team, defenders of the free world, titans of the 
> digital age,
> 
> A new install of debian does not contain texinfo by default.
> After installing texinfo, many of the info files are missing.
> Only after reinstalling a package, the corresponding info file will be 
> installed.
> 
> I have not found a wiki page about the info utility on the debian wiki,
> nor found information about installing all info files of installed 
> packages in a reasonably easy manner.
> This may be because the search term "info" is not very useful on most 
> browsers.
> 
> I'm not sure if you consider this a problem, or what the best solution is.
> Perhaps an easy solution exists, which I'm missing and can't find.
> I'll be so brave (with my limited knowledge) to propose creating a wiki 
> page for the info utility,
> where problems like these can be covered.
> 
You may want to look at pinfo, its a better organized version altho 
neither it seems is getting a lot of tlc. I prefer a well written 
manpage myself, but even that is getting rarer.
> 
> With kind regards,
> Machiel

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis

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#263828

FromGreg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Date2023-11-25 15:30 +0100
Message-ID<HE1Pr-8c3Y-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#263818
On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 09:44:59AM +0100, Chielllo Boss wrote:
> A new install of debian does not contain texinfo by default.
> After installing texinfo, many of the info files are missing.
> Only after reinstalling a package, the corresponding info file will be
> installed.

I don't believe this is true.  Perhaps your index just needs to
be rebuilt, so that your "info" command knows about the *.info files
which are already present.

Can you give us some details?  What command did you run, what output
did it give you, and what output did you expect instead?

>From the other direction: what package did you have to reinstall?
What was the output of "dpkg -L pkgname" before the reinstall, and
what was the output after?  Which specific file was missing?

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#263830

FromMax Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Date2023-11-25 16:50 +0100
Message-ID<HE34R-8d2V-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#263818
On 25/11/2023 15:44, Chielllo Boss wrote:
> A new install of debian does not contain texinfo by default.
> After installing texinfo, many of the info files are missing.
> Only after reinstalling a package, the corresponding info file will be 
> installed.

What particular command did you try when you experienced the issue?

My guess is that the "install-info" package was missed. It has a trigger 
to update /usr/share/info/dir (index of available info files). Packages 
providing "info-browser" has this package in dependencies, but namely 
"texinfo" does not depend on it.

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