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repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several times.

Started bygene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
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  repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several times. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-01 01:10 +0200
    Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several times. Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2023-05-01 02:20 +0200
      Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several  times. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-01 09:40 +0200
        Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several  times. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-01 15:00 +0200
          Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered  severaltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-01 15:50 +0200
            Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered  severaltimes. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-05-01 16:10 +0200
              Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered  severaltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-01 16:40 +0200
              Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-01 17:00 +0200
                Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-01 17:40 +0200
            Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered  severaltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-01 16:20 +0200
              Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-01 17:10 +0200
                Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-01 17:20 +0200
                Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-01 17:30 +0200
                  Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-01 17:50 +0200
                    Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-01 18:40 +0200
                      Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-01 19:10 +0200
                        Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-01 19:40 +0200
                          Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-02 00:00 +0200
                            Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-02 01:10 +0200
                      Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-01 19:30 +0200
                        Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-01 20:40 +0200
                          Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-02 00:10 +0200
                        Re: repeat of previous question that has gone  unansweredseveraltimes. debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-05-01 22:10 +0200
                          Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-01 23:30 +0200
                            Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-02 01:00 +0200
                          Re: repeat of previous question that has goneunansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-02 00:30 +0200
                          Re: repeat of previous question that has goneunansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-02 01:00 +0200
            Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered severaltimes. Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com> - 2023-05-01 16:20 +0200
          Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered  severaltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-01 17:00 +0200
    Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several  times. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2023-05-01 06:30 +0200
    Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several  times. john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2023-05-01 09:40 +0200
      Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several  times. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-01 13:50 +0200
        Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several  times. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-01 15:00 +0200
          Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several  times. zithro <slack@rabbit.lu> - 2023-05-04 21:50 +0200
            Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered  severaltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-04 22:00 +0200
              Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered  severaltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-05 16:10 +0200
                Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-05 17:50 +0200
                  Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-05 19:50 +0200
                    Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-05 22:40 +0200
                      Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-06 01:00 +0200
                        Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-06 03:40 +0200
                    Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Alex King <alex@king.net.nz> - 2023-05-07 01:30 +0200
                      Re: repeat of previous question that has gone  unansweredseveraltimes. David <curmudgeon@telaman.net.au> - 2023-05-07 02:10 +0200
                      Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2023-05-07 03:40 +0200
                      Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2023-05-07 13:30 +0200
                      Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-07 17:30 +0200
                        Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-07 18:50 +0200
                          Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-08 06:30 +0200
                            Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-08 13:50 +0200
                              Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-08 19:10 +0200
                                Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-09 00:10 +0200
                              Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-09 10:10 +0200
                                Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-05-09 13:20 +0200
                                  Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-09 22:50 +0200
                                    Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-10 14:20 +0200
                                      Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-10 16:10 +0200
                                        Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2023-05-10 16:50 +0200
                                        Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-10 17:30 +0200
                                          Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-10 19:20 +0200
                                            Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-10 20:30 +0200
                                              Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-10 22:00 +0200
                                                Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-11 13:10 +0200
                                                  Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-11 18:30 +0200
                                              Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-10 22:10 +0200
                                                Re: repeat of previous question that has gone  unansweredseveraltimes. debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-05-10 22:20 +0200
                                                Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-11 13:10 +0200
                                                  SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that has gone  unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-11 18:10 +0200
                                                    Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that has gone  unansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-11 21:20 +0200
                                                    Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that has gone  unansweredseveraltimes. Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-12 00:00 +0200
                                                      Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that has gone  unansweredseveraltimes. Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-05-12 00:30 +0200
                                                        Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that has gone  unansweredseveraltimes. Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-12 01:50 +0200
                                                          Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that has  goneunansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-12 03:40 +0200
                                                            Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that has  goneunansweredseveraltimes. Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-12 11:20 +0200
                                                              Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that  hasgoneunansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-12 12:30 +0200
                                                                Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that  hasgoneunansweredseveraltimes. Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2023-05-12 13:30 +0200
                                                                Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that  hasgoneunansweredseveraltimes. Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-12 13:50 +0200
                                                                  Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question  thathasgoneunansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-12 18:20 +0200
                                                              Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that  hasgoneunansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-12 12:30 +0200
                                                                Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that  hasgoneunansweredseveraltimes. Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-12 13:50 +0200
                                                                  :Re: repeat of previous question thathasgoneunansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-12 18:10 +0200
                                                                    Re: :Re: repeat of previous question  thathasgoneunansweredseveraltimes. Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2023-05-12 23:30 +0200
                                                                Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that  hasgoneunansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-12 20:50 +0200
                                                                  Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question  thathasgoneunansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-12 21:30 +0200
                                                                    Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question  thathasgoneunansweredseveraltimes. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2023-05-13 13:20 +0200
                                                                      Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous  questionthathasgoneunansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-13 17:10 +0200
                                                        Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that has  goneunansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-12 03:30 +0200
                                                      Re: SOLVED:Re: repeat of previous question that has  goneunansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-12 03:20 +0200
                        Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2023-05-07 19:40 +0200
                          Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2023-05-08 07:10 +0200

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#257755 — repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several times.

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-05-01 01:10 +0200
Subjectrepeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several times.
Message-ID<Gqol3-5FqD-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
Greetings all;

I have a mixed home network, some buster, some bullseye, all up to date 
a/o yesterday.

I have 2 printers shared on this bullseye main box, available as 5 or 6 
printers, each configured in cups to do a specific job. Good printers, 
both running on brother's own linux drivers for that printer.

All my buster machines can use both of these printers just as if they 
were plugged into that machine, but a machine shop full of sawdust and 
metal shavings is not a good printer environment, even if there was room 
for them, which there isn't.

All of my bullseye machines are locked out, printer screen at 
localhost:631 is empty, and no printers can be found and added.

But open a shell, and type "lpstat -t" and it gets the full list of 
available printers on that same bullseye machine whose cups output is empty.

Why?

Thank you for any insight.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
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  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>

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#257757

FromLee <ler762@gmail.com>
Date2023-05-01 02:20 +0200
Message-ID<GqpqN-5G2p-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257755
On 4/30/23, gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> Greetings all;
>
> I have a mixed home network, some buster, some bullseye, all up to date
> a/o yesterday.
>
> I have 2 printers shared on this bullseye main box, available as 5 or 6
> printers, each configured in cups to do a specific job. Good printers,
> both running on brother's own linux drivers for that printer.
>
> All my buster machines can use both of these printers just as if they
> were plugged into that machine, but a machine shop full of sawdust and
> metal shavings is not a good printer environment, even if there was room
> for them, which there isn't.
>
> All of my bullseye machines are locked out, printer screen at
> localhost:631 is empty, and no printers can be found and added.
>
> But open a shell, and type "lpstat -t" and it gets the full list of
> available printers on that same bullseye machine whose cups output is
> empty.
>
> Why?

Take a look at
  https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSQuickPrintQueues

The quick ref is to install avahi-utils and run
  avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp  | grep URF

If you get a line matching URF the printer supports the AirPrint
service.  Install cups and see if it works (which is all that I needed
to do to get the printer working).  If no, what does

  avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp

and

  systemctl status avahi-daemon

show you?

Regards,
Lee

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#257768 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several times.

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-05-01 09:40 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several times.
Message-ID<GqwiB-5Kit-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257757
On 4/30/23 20:19, Lee wrote:
> On 4/30/23, gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
>> Greetings all;
>>
>> I have a mixed home network, some buster, some bullseye, all up to date
>> a/o yesterday.
>>
>> I have 2 printers shared on this bullseye main box, available as 5 or 6
>> printers, each configured in cups to do a specific job. Good printers,
>> both running on brother's own linux drivers for that printer.
>>
>> All my buster machines can use both of these printers just as if they
>> were plugged into that machine, but a machine shop full of sawdust and
>> metal shavings is not a good printer environment, even if there was room
>> for them, which there isn't.
>>
>> All of my bullseye machines are locked out, printer screen at
>> localhost:631 is empty, and no printers can be found and added.
>>
>> But open a shell, and type "lpstat -t" and it gets the full list of
>> available printers on that same bullseye machine whose cups output is
>> empty.
>>
>> Why?
> 
> Take a look at
>    https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSQuickPrintQueues
> 
> The quick ref is to install avahi-utils and run
>    avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp  | grep URF
> 
had to install it, pulled in 7 other pkgs: then:
gene@bpi51:~$ avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp  | grep URF
    txt = ["printer-type=0x80300E" "printer-state=3" "Color=T" "TLS=1.2" 
"UUID=831942b6-acfd-3e55-7013-00336f687aa2" "URF=DM3" 
"pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/pwg-raster,image/urf" 
"product=(MFC-J6920DW)" "priority=0" "note=letss see if this works" 
"adminurl=https://coyote.local.:631/printers/Brother_MFC-J6920DW_photo" 
"ty=Brother MFC-J6920DW CUPS" "rp=printers/Brother_MFC-J6920DW_photo" 
"qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
    txt = ["printer-type=0x80300E" "printer-state=3" "Color=T" "TLS=1.2" 
"UUID=58daf55b-1dc3-31b0-7442-4a936bde800c" "URF=DM3" 
"pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/pwg-raster,image/urf" 
"product=(MFC-J6920DW)" "priority=0" "note=coyote.den duplex bottom 
tray" "adminurl=https://coyote.local.:631/printers/MFCJ6920DW" 
"ty=Brother MFC-J6920DW CUPS" "rp=printers/MFCJ6920DW" "qtotal=1" 
"txtvers=1"]
    txt = ["printer-type=0x809016" "printer-state=3" "Duplex=T" 
"TLS=1.2" "UUID=36139eb5-df51-332f-4f80-ebf162ecc0ae" "URF=DM3" 
"pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/pwg-raster,image/urf" 
"product=(Brother HL-L2320D series)" "priority=0" 
"adminurl=https://coyote.local.:631/printers/HLL2320D" "ty=Brother 
HL-L2320D for CUPS" "rp=printers/HLL2320D" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
    txt = ["printer-type=0x809016" "printer-state=3" "Duplex=T" 
"TLS=1.2" "UUID=391b5af9-9bac-3249-65f0-795f553651fe" "URF=DM3" 
"pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/pwg-raster,image/urf" 
"product=(Brother HL-L2320D series)" "priority=0" "note=floor in den" 
"adminurl=https://coyote.local.:631/printers/Brother_HL-L2320D_series" 
"ty=Brother HL-L2320D for CUPS" "rp=printers/Brother_HL-L2320D_series" 
"qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]


> If you get a line matching URF the printer supports the AirPrint
> service.  Install cups and see if it works (which is all that I needed
> to do to get the printer working).  If no, what does
> 
cups already installed as part of armbian

>    avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp
gene@bpi51:~$ avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp
+   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-L2320D series @ coyote             Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv4 Brother MFC-J6920DW @ coyote                  Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv4 HLL2320D @ coyote                             Internet 
Printer     local
+   eth0 IPv4 MFCJ6920DW _tray_2 @ coyote                   Internet 
Printer     local
=   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-L2320D series @ coyote             Internet 
Printer     local
    hostname = [coyote.local]
    address = [192.168.71.3]
    port = [631]
    txt = ["printer-type=0x809016" "printer-state=3" "Duplex=T" 
"TLS=1.2" "UUID=391b5af9-9bac-3249-65f0-795f553651fe" "URF=DM3" 
"pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/pwg-raster,image/urf" 
"product=(Brother HL-L2320D series)" "priority=0" "note=floor in den" 
"adminurl=https://coyote.local.:631/printers/Brother_HL-L2320D_series" 
"ty=Brother HL-L2320D for CUPS" "rp=printers/Brother_HL-L2320D_series" 
"qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv4 Brother MFC-J6920DW @ coyote                  Internet 
Printer     local
    hostname = [coyote.local]
    address = [192.168.71.3]
    port = [631]
    txt = ["printer-type=0x80300E" "printer-state=3" "Color=T" "TLS=1.2" 
"UUID=831942b6-acfd-3e55-7013-00336f687aa2" "URF=DM3" 
"pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/pwg-raster,image/urf" 
"product=(MFC-J6920DW)" "priority=0" "note=letss see if this works" 
"adminurl=https://coyote.local.:631/printers/Brother_MFC-J6920DW_photo" 
"ty=Brother MFC-J6920DW CUPS" "rp=printers/Brother_MFC-J6920DW_photo" 
"qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv4 HLL2320D @ coyote                             Internet 
Printer     local
    hostname = [coyote.local]
    address = [192.168.71.3]
    port = [631]
    txt = ["printer-type=0x809016" "printer-state=3" "Duplex=T" 
"TLS=1.2" "UUID=36139eb5-df51-332f-4f80-ebf162ecc0ae" "URF=DM3" 
"pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/pwg-raster,image/urf" 
"product=(Brother HL-L2320D series)" "priority=0" 
"adminurl=https://coyote.local.:631/printers/HLL2320D" "ty=Brother 
HL-L2320D for CUPS" "rp=printers/HLL2320D" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
=   eth0 IPv4 MFCJ6920DW _tray_2 @ coyote                   Internet 
Printer     local
    hostname = [coyote.local]
    address = [192.168.71.3]
    port = [631]
    txt = ["printer-type=0x80300E" "printer-state=3" "Color=T" "TLS=1.2" 
"UUID=58daf55b-1dc3-31b0-7442-4a936bde800c" "URF=DM3" 
"pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/pwg-raster,image/urf" 
"product=(MFC-J6920DW)" "priority=0" "note=coyote.den duplex bottom 
tray" "adminurl=https://coyote.local.:631/printers/MFCJ
> 
> and
> 
>    systemctl status avahi-daemon
> 
> show you?
> 
gene@bpi51:~$ systemctl status avahi-daemon
● avahi-daemon.service - Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack
      Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/avahi-daemon.service; enabled; 
vendor preset: enabled)
      Active: active (running) since Mon 2023-05-01 02:13:38 -05; 11min ago
TriggeredBy: ● avahi-daemon.socket
    Main PID: 5081 (avahi-daemon)
      Status: "avahi-daemon 0.8 starting up."
       Tasks: 2 (limit: 4207)
      Memory: 788.0K
         CPU: 166ms
      CGroup: /system.slice/avahi-daemon.service
              ├─5081 avahi-daemon: running [bpi51.local]
              └─5083 avahi-daemon: chroot helper

May 01 02:13:38 bpi51 avahi-daemon[5081]: No service file found in 
/etc/avahi/services.
May 01 02:13:38 bpi51 avahi-daemon[5081]: *** WARNING: Detected another 
IPv4 mDNS stack running on this host. This makes mDNS unreliable and is 
thus not>
May 01 02:13:38 bpi51 avahi-daemon[5081]: Joining mDNS multicast group 
on interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.71.9.
May 01 02:13:38 bpi51 avahi-daemon[5081]: New relevant interface 
eth0.IPv4 for mDNS.
May 01 02:13:38 bpi51 avahi-daemon[5081]: Joining mDNS multicast group 
on interface lo.IPv4 with address 127.0.0.1.
May 01 02:13:38 bpi51 avahi-daemon[5081]: New relevant interface lo.IPv4 
for mDNS.
May 01 02:13:38 bpi51 avahi-daemon[5081]: Network interface enumeration 
completed.
May 01 02:13:38 bpi51 avahi-daemon[5081]: Registering new address record 
for 192.168.71.9 on eth0.IPv4.
May 01 02:13:38 bpi51 avahi-daemon[5081]: Registering new address record 
for 127.0.0.1 on lo.IPv4.
May 01 02:13:39 bpi51 avahi-daemon[5081]: Server startup complete. Host 
name is bpi51.local. Local service cookie is 4247089512.

Went to machine, ff already running for octoprint tab opened to 
localhost:631, no printers for a printer search.

So cups still cannot see the shares but only for a bullseye install, 
buster installs work just fine.

??

Thanks Lee.

> Regards,
> Lee
> .

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>

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#257783 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several times.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2023-05-01 15:00 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered several times.
Message-ID<GqBii-5NSo-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257768
On Mon 01 May 2023 at 03:29:28 -0400, gene heskett wrote:

> >    avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp
> gene@bpi51:~$ avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp
> +   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-L2320D series @ coyote             Internet Printer
> local
> +   eth0 IPv4 Brother MFC-J6920DW @ coyote                  Internet Printer
> local
> +   eth0 IPv4 HLL2320D @ coyote                             Internet Printer
> local
> +   eth0 IPv4 MFCJ6920DW _tray_2 @ coyote                   Internet Printer
> local

You have exactly four (not five or six) print queues manually set up on
the CUPS server coyote (192.168.71.3). It is assumed that when sat at
coyote it is possible to print to any of Brother HL-L2320D series, Brother
MFC-J6920DW, HLL2320D and  MFCJ6920DW _tray_2. Im particular - can you
print to HLL2320D from the server?

[...]

> =   eth0 IPv4 HLL2320D @ coyote                             Internet Printer
> local
>    hostname = [coyote.local]
>    address = [192.168.71.3]
>    port = [631]
>    txt = ["printer-type=0x809016" "printer-state=3" "Duplex=T" "TLS=1.2"
> "UUID=36139eb5-df51-332f-4f80-ebf162ecc0ae" "URF=DM3" "pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/pwg-raster,image/urf"
> "product=(Brother HL-L2320D series)" "priority=0"
> "adminurl=https://coyote.local.:631/printers/HLL2320D" "ty=Brother HL-L2320D
> for CUPS" "rp=printers/HLL2320D" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]

As well as three other printers, the host bpi51 sees the shared HLL2320D @ coyote
queue via mDNS/DNS-SD. All is well and good up to now. Let's have

  lpstat -l -e
  lpstat -a
  lpinfo -v

from bpi51.

-- 
Brian.

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#257786 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered severaltimes.

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-05-01 15:50 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered severaltimes.
Message-ID<GqC4F-5OnQ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257783
On 5/1/23 08:56, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 01 May 2023 at 03:29:28 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> 
>>>     avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp
>> gene@bpi51:~$ avahi-browse -rt _ipp._tcp
>> +   eth0 IPv4 Brother HL-L2320D series @ coyote             Internet Printer
>> local
>> +   eth0 IPv4 Brother MFC-J6920DW @ coyote                  Internet Printer
>> local
>> +   eth0 IPv4 HLL2320D @ coyote                             Internet Printer
>> local
>> +   eth0 IPv4 MFCJ6920DW _tray_2 @ coyote                   Internet Printer
>> local
> 
> You have exactly four (not five or six) print queues manually set up on
> the CUPS server coyote (192.168.71.3). It is assumed that when sat at
> coyote it is possible to print to any of Brother HL-L2320D series, Brother
> MFC-J6920DW, HLL2320D and  MFCJ6920DW _tray_2. Im particular - can you
> print to HLL2320D from the server?
> 
Yes, and from any buster machine on my local network.
> [...]
> 
>> =   eth0 IPv4 HLL2320D @ coyote                             Internet Printer
>> local
>>     hostname = [coyote.local]
>>     address = [192.168.71.3]
>>     port = [631]
>>     txt = ["printer-type=0x809016" "printer-state=3" "Duplex=T" "TLS=1.2"
>> "UUID=36139eb5-df51-332f-4f80-ebf162ecc0ae" "URF=DM3" "pdl=application/octet-stream,application/pdf,application/postscript,image/jpeg,image/png,image/pwg-raster,image/urf"
>> "product=(Brother HL-L2320D series)" "priority=0"
>> "adminurl=https://coyote.local.:631/printers/HLL2320D" "ty=Brother HL-L2320D
>> for CUPS" "rp=printers/HLL2320D" "qtotal=1" "txtvers=1"]
> 
> As well as three other printers, the host bpi51 sees the shared HLL2320D @ coyote
> queue via mDNS/DNS-SD. All is well and good up to now. Let's have
> 
>    lpstat -l -e
gene@bpi51:~$ lpstat -l -e
Brother_HL_L2320D_series_coyote network none 
ipps://Brother%20HL-L2320D%20series%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
Brother_MFC_J6920DW_coyote network none 
ipps://Brother%20MFC-J6920DW%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
HLL2320D_coyote network none 
ipps://HLL2320D%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
MFCJ6920DW_tray_2_coyote network none 
ipps://MFCJ6920DW%20_tray_2%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
PDF permanent ipp://localhost/printers/PDF cups-pdf:/

>    lpstat -a
gene@bpi51:~$ lpstat -a
PDF accepting requests since Fri 02 Dec 2022 11:13:10 PM -05

>    lpinfo -v
gene@bpi51:~$ lpinfo -v
-bash: lpinfo: command not found
gene@bpi51:~$ sudo apt install lpinfo
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package lpinfo

> 
> from bpi51.
> 
Thank you Brian

Take care and stay well.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>

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#257787 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered severaltimes.

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2023-05-01 16:10 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered severaltimes.
Message-ID<GqCo1-5OK3-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257786
On Mon 01 May 2023 at 09:39:51 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> >    lpinfo -v
> gene@bpi51:~$ lpinfo -v
> -bash: lpinfo: command not found
> gene@bpi51:~$ sudo apt install lpinfo
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> E: Unable to locate package lpinfo

You need root:

  # lpinfo -v
  network beh
  network lpd
  file cups-brf:/
  network socket
  network ipps
  network https
  network ipp
  network http
  file cups-pdf:/
  network dnssd://Brother%20HL-L2390DW._ipp._tcp.local/?uuid=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-90324b75e771
  network ipp://Brother%20HL-L2390DW._ipp._tcp.local/
  network lpd://BRW90324B75E771/BINARY_P1
  # 

Cheers,
David.

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#257790 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered severaltimes.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2023-05-01 16:40 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered severaltimes.
Message-ID<GqCR3-5OU3-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257787
On Mon 01 May 2023 at 09:07:53 -0500, David Wright wrote:

> On Mon 01 May 2023 at 09:39:51 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> > >    lpinfo -v
> > gene@bpi51:~$ lpinfo -v
> > -bash: lpinfo: command not found
> > gene@bpi51:~$ sudo apt install lpinfo
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree... Done
> > Reading state information... Done
> > E: Unable to locate package lpinfo
> 
> You need root:
> 
>   # lpinfo -v
>   network beh
>   network lpd
>   file cups-brf:/
>   network socket
>   network ipps
>   network https
>   network ipp
>   network http
>   file cups-pdf:/
>   network dnssd://Brother%20HL-L2390DW._ipp._tcp.local/?uuid=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-90324b75e771
>   network ipp://Brother%20HL-L2390DW._ipp._tcp.local/
>   network lpd://BRW90324B75E771/BINARY_P1

Indeed you do. I forgot that root privilege is required because the USB bus
is probed.

-- 
Brian.

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#257795 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-05-01 17:00 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.
Message-ID<GqDap-5P0Y-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257787
On 5/1/23 10:08, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 01 May 2023 at 09:39:51 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
>>>     lpinfo -v
>> gene@bpi51:~$ lpinfo -v
>> -bash: lpinfo: command not found
>> gene@bpi51:~$ sudo apt install lpinfo
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree... Done
>> Reading state information... Done
>> E: Unable to locate package lpinfo
> 
> You need root:
> 
>    # lpinfo -v
>    network beh
>    network lpd
>    file cups-brf:/
>    network socket
>    network ipps
>    network https
>    network ipp
>    network http
>    file cups-pdf:/
>    network dnssd://Brother%20HL-L2390DW._ipp._tcp.local/?uuid=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-90324b75e771
>    network ipp://Brother%20HL-L2390DW._ipp._tcp.local/
>    network lpd://BRW90324B75E771/BINARY_P1
>    #
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 
> .
Ah so
gene@bpi51:~$ sudo lpinfo -v
[sudo] password for gene:
Sorry, try again.
[sudo] password for gene:
network beh
network socket
network http
network ipps
network lpd
network https
network ipp
file cups-brf:/
file cups-pdf:/
network 
dnssd://Brother%20HL-L2320D%20series%20%40%20coyote._ipp._tcp.local/cups?uuid=391b5af9-9bac-3249-65f0-795f553651fe
network 
dnssd://Brother%20MFC-J6920DW%20%40%20coyote._ipp._tcp.local/cups?uuid=831942b6-acfd-3e55-7013-00336f687aa2
network 
dnssd://HLL2320D%20%40%20coyote._ipp._tcp.local/cups?uuid=36139eb5-df51-332f-4f80-ebf162ecc0ae
network 
dnssd://MFCJ6920DW%20_tray_2%20%40%20coyote._ipp._tcp.local/cups?uuid=58daf55b-1dc3-31b0-7442-4a936bde800c

Thats better, but does it show "why"

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>

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#257800 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2023-05-01 17:40 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.
Message-ID<GqDN7-5Pta-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257795
On Mon 01 May 2023 at 10:56:00 -0400, gene heskett wrote:

> On 5/1/23 10:08, David Wright wrote:
> > On Mon 01 May 2023 at 09:39:51 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> > > >     lpinfo -v
> > > gene@bpi51:~$ lpinfo -v
> > > -bash: lpinfo: command not found
> > > gene@bpi51:~$ sudo apt install lpinfo
> > > Reading package lists... Done
> > > Building dependency tree... Done
> > > Reading state information... Done
> > > E: Unable to locate package lpinfo
> > 
> > You need root:
> > 
> >    # lpinfo -v
> >    network beh
> >    network lpd
> >    file cups-brf:/
> >    network socket
> >    network ipps
> >    network https
> >    network ipp
> >    network http
> >    file cups-pdf:/
> >    network dnssd://Brother%20HL-L2390DW._ipp._tcp.local/?uuid=e3248000-80ce-11db-8000-90324b75e771
> >    network ipp://Brother%20HL-L2390DW._ipp._tcp.local/
> >    network lpd://BRW90324B75E771/BINARY_P1
> >    #
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > David.
> > 
> > .
> Ah so
> gene@bpi51:~$ sudo lpinfo -v
> [sudo] password for gene:
> Sorry, try again.
> [sudo] password for gene:
> network beh
> network socket
> network http
> network ipps
> network lpd
> network https
> network ipp
> file cups-brf:/
> file cups-pdf:/
> network dnssd://Brother%20HL-L2320D%20series%20%40%20coyote._ipp._tcp.local/cups?uuid=391b5af9-9bac-3249-65f0-795f553651fe
> network dnssd://Brother%20MFC-J6920DW%20%40%20coyote._ipp._tcp.local/cups?uuid=831942b6-acfd-3e55-7013-00336f687aa2
> network dnssd://HLL2320D%20%40%20coyote._ipp._tcp.local/cups?uuid=36139eb5-df51-332f-4f80-ebf162ecc0ae
> network dnssd://MFCJ6920DW%20_tray_2%20%40%20coyote._ipp._tcp.local/cups?uuid=58daf55b-1dc3-31b0-7442-4a936bde800c
> 
> Thats better, but does it show "why"

THe network is probed and the dnssd backend of CUPS find the same four printers as
'lpsta -l -e' does.

-- 
Brian.

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#257788 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered severaltimes.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2023-05-01 16:20 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unanswered severaltimes.
Message-ID<GqCxH-5ONn-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257786
On Mon 01 May 2023 at 09:39:51 -0400, gene heskett wrote:

> gene@bpi51:~$ lpstat -l -e
> Brother_HL_L2320D_series_coyote network none
> ipps://Brother%20HL-L2320D%20series%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
>
> Brother_MFC_J6920DW_coyote network none
> ipps://Brother%20MFC-J6920DW%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
>
> HLL2320D_coyote network none
> ipps://HLL2320D%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
>
> MFCJ6920DW_tray_2_coyote network none
> ipps://MFCJ6920DW%20_tray_2%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups

There you are! CUPS sees all four print queues shared by coyote. At this
stage we are golden. Note that all four are designated as "network".

> PDF permanent ipp://localhost/printers/PDF cups-pdf:/

This is a manual queue (permanent) set up locally on bpi51. It isn't of any
further interest.

> gene@bpi51:~$ lpstat -a
> PDF accepting requests since Fri 02 Dec 2022 11:13:10 PM -05

You may care to take note that 'lpstat -a' and 'lpstat -t' only show local
printers (permanent) and not those that are on the network. That also goes
for the Printers section at localhost:631.

Local printers can also be auto-setup by cups-browsed. You do not have it
installed/running. Thar's OK; there isn't any obligation (or for that matter,
any need) to use it. Having mentioned it, we will now completely put it out
of our minds.
 
> gene@bpi51:~$ lpinfo -v
> -bash: lpinfo: command not found

sudo lpinfo -v

Your printing situation appears to be a sane one, so now for a test. Do

  lp -d HLL2320D_coyote ANY_FILE_YOU_WANT

-- 
Brian.

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#257797 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-05-01 17:10 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.
Message-ID<GqDk5-5PjN-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257788
On 5/1/23 10:40, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 01 May 2023 at 09:39:51 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> 
>> gene@bpi51:~$ lpstat -l -e
>> Brother_HL_L2320D_series_coyote network none
>> ipps://Brother%20HL-L2320D%20series%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
>>
>> Brother_MFC_J6920DW_coyote network none
>> ipps://Brother%20MFC-J6920DW%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
>>
>> HLL2320D_coyote network none
>> ipps://HLL2320D%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
>>
>> MFCJ6920DW_tray_2_coyote network none
>> ipps://MFCJ6920DW%20_tray_2%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
> 
> There you are! CUPS sees all four print queues shared by coyote. At this
> stage we are golden. Note that all four are designated as "network".
> 
>> PDF permanent ipp://localhost/printers/PDF cups-pdf:/
> 
> This is a manual queue (permanent) set up locally on bpi51. It isn't of any
> further interest.
> 
>> gene@bpi51:~$ lpstat -a
>> PDF accepting requests since Fri 02 Dec 2022 11:13:10 PM -05
> 
> You may care to take note that 'lpstat -a' and 'lpstat -t' only show local
> printers (permanent) and not those that are on the network. That also goes
> for the Printers section at localhost:631.
> 
> Local printers can also be auto-setup by cups-browsed. You do not have it
> installed/running. Thar's OK; there isn't any obligation (or for that matter,
> any need) to use it. Having mentioned it, we will now completely put it out
> of our minds.
>   
>> gene@bpi51:~$ lpinfo -v
>> -bash: lpinfo: command not found
> 
> sudo lpinfo -v
> 
> Your printing situation appears to be a sane one, so now for a test. Do
> 
>    lp -d HLL2320D_coyote ANY_FILE_YOU_WANT
> 
Is not working, shell appears frozen but eventually returns:
gene@bpi51:~$ lp -d HLL2320D_coyote printer.cfg
lp: The printer or class does not exist.


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>

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#257798 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-05-01 17:20 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.
Message-ID<GqDtL-5PmX-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257797
On 5/1/23 11:03, gene heskett wrote:
> On 5/1/23 10:40, Brian wrote:
>> On Mon 01 May 2023 at 09:39:51 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>>
>>> gene@bpi51:~$ lpstat -l -e
>>> Brother_HL_L2320D_series_coyote network none
>>> ipps://Brother%20HL-L2320D%20series%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
>>>
>>> Brother_MFC_J6920DW_coyote network none
>>> ipps://Brother%20MFC-J6920DW%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
>>>
>>> HLL2320D_coyote network none
>>> ipps://HLL2320D%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
>>>
>>> MFCJ6920DW_tray_2_coyote network none
>>> ipps://MFCJ6920DW%20_tray_2%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
>>
>> There you are! CUPS sees all four print queues shared by coyote. At this
>> stage we are golden. Note that all four are designated as "network".
>>
>>> PDF permanent ipp://localhost/printers/PDF cups-pdf:/
>>
>> This is a manual queue (permanent) set up locally on bpi51. It isn't 
>> of any
>> further interest.
>>
>>> gene@bpi51:~$ lpstat -a
>>> PDF accepting requests since Fri 02 Dec 2022 11:13:10 PM -05
>>
>> You may care to take note that 'lpstat -a' and 'lpstat -t' only show 
>> local
>> printers (permanent) and not those that are on the network. That also 
>> goes
>> for the Printers section at localhost:631.
>>
>> Local printers can also be auto-setup by cups-browsed. You do not have it
>> installed/running. Thar's OK; there isn't any obligation (or for that 
>> matter,
>> any need) to use it. Having mentioned it, we will now completely put 
>> it out
>> of our minds.
>>> gene@bpi51:~$ lpinfo -v
>>> -bash: lpinfo: command not found
>>
>> sudo lpinfo -v
>>
>> Your printing situation appears to be a sane one, so now for a test. Do
>>
>>    lp -d HLL2320D_coyote ANY_FILE_YOU_WANT
>>
> Is not working, shell appears frozen but eventually returns:
> gene@bpi51:~$ lp -d HLL2320D_coyote printer.cfg
> lp: The printer or class does not exist.
> 
> 
repeat same error if s sudo is put in front of it.

> Cheers, Gene Heskett.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>

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#257799 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2023-05-01 17:30 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.
Message-ID<GqDDr-5Pq0-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257797
On Mon 01 May 2023 at 11:02:58 -0400, gene heskett wrote:

> On 5/1/23 10:40, Brian wrote:

[...]

> > Your printing situation appears to be a sane one, so now for a test. Do
> > 
> >    lp -d HLL2320D_coyote ANY_FILE_YOU_WANT
> > 
> Is not working, shell appears frozen but eventually returns:
> gene@bpi51:~$ lp -d HLL2320D_coyote printer.cfg
> lp: The printer or class does not exist.

But HLL2320D_coyote does exist. It is seen in the outputs of 'lpstat -l -e'
and 'sudo lpinfo -v'. Give

  lpoptopns -p HLL2320D_coyote
  lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote -l

-- 
Brian.

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#257801 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-05-01 17:50 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.
Message-ID<GqDWN-5PwD-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257799
On 5/1/23 11:28, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 01 May 2023 at 11:02:58 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> 
>> On 5/1/23 10:40, Brian wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>>> Your printing situation appears to be a sane one, so now for a test. Do
>>>
>>>     lp -d HLL2320D_coyote ANY_FILE_YOU_WANT
>>>
>> Is not working, shell appears frozen but eventually returns:
>> gene@bpi51:~$ lp -d HLL2320D_coyote printer.cfg
>> lp: The printer or class does not exist.
> 
> But HLL2320D_coyote does exist. It is seen in the outputs of 'lpstat -l -e'
> and 'sudo lpinfo -v'. Give
> 
>    lpoptopns -p HLL2320D_coyote
gene@bpi51:~$ lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote
device-uri=ipps://HLL2320D%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups 
printer-info='HLL2320D @ coyote' printer-make-and-model='Brother 
HL-L2320D series' printer-type=25202710

>    lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote -l
gene@bpi51:~$ lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote -l
lpoptions: Unable to get PPD file for HLL2320D_coyote: The printer or 
class does not exist.

> 

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>

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#257805 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2023-05-01 18:40 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.
Message-ID<GqEJc-5Q2l-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257801
On Mon 01 May 2023 at 11:39:29 -0400, gene heskett wrote:

> On 5/1/23 11:28, Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 01 May 2023 at 11:02:58 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > 
> > > On 5/1/23 10:40, Brian wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > Your printing situation appears to be a sane one, so now for a test. Do
> > > > 
> > > >     lp -d HLL2320D_coyote ANY_FILE_YOU_WANT
> > > > 
> > > Is not working, shell appears frozen but eventually returns:
> > > gene@bpi51:~$ lp -d HLL2320D_coyote printer.cfg
> > > lp: The printer or class does not exist.
> > 
> > But HLL2320D_coyote does exist. It is seen in the outputs of 'lpstat -l -e'
> > and 'sudo lpinfo -v'. Give
> > 
> >    lpoptopns -p HLL2320D_coyote
> gene@bpi51:~$ lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote
> device-uri=ipps://HLL2320D%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
> printer-info='HLL2320D @ coyote' printer-make-and-model='Brother HL-L2320D
> series' printer-type=25202710

The print queue specified by -p is queried for some information about itself.
Its reponse is given and it seems a very reasonable one.

> >    lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote -l
> gene@bpi51:~$ lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote -l
> lpoptions: Unable to get PPD file for HLL2320D_coyote: The printer or class
> does not exist.

The -l option asks the queue for the specific options it offers. The response
indicates something wrong with CUPS on bpi51. I haven't any problem when doing
this and getting sensible outputs on my Debian unstable machine.

Assuming your buster machines (which are working) have similar setups to bpi51,
you couls try the two commands (and all the others in this thread) on one of
those.

-- 
Brian.

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#257806 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-05-01 19:10 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.
Message-ID<GqFcd-5Qrw-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257805
On 5/1/23 12:30, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 01 May 2023 at 11:39:29 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> 
>> On 5/1/23 11:28, Brian wrote:
>>> On Mon 01 May 2023 at 11:02:58 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/1/23 10:40, Brian wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>> Your printing situation appears to be a sane one, so now for a test. Do
>>>>>
>>>>>      lp -d HLL2320D_coyote ANY_FILE_YOU_WANT
>>>>>
>>>> Is not working, shell appears frozen but eventually returns:
>>>> gene@bpi51:~$ lp -d HLL2320D_coyote printer.cfg
>>>> lp: The printer or class does not exist.
>>>
>>> But HLL2320D_coyote does exist. It is seen in the outputs of 'lpstat -l -e'
>>> and 'sudo lpinfo -v'. Give
>>>
>>>     lpoptopns -p HLL2320D_coyote
>> gene@bpi51:~$ lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote
>> device-uri=ipps://HLL2320D%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
>> printer-info='HLL2320D @ coyote' printer-make-and-model='Brother HL-L2320D
>> series' printer-type=25202710
> 
> The print queue specified by -p is queried for some information about itself.
> Its reponse is given and it seems a very reasonable one.
> 
>>>     lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote -l
>> gene@bpi51:~$ lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote -l
>> lpoptions: Unable to get PPD file for HLL2320D_coyote: The printer or class
>> does not exist.
> 
> The -l option asks the queue for the specific options it offers. The response
> indicates something wrong with CUPS on bpi51. I haven't any problem when doing
> this and getting sensible outputs on my Debian unstable machine.
> 
> Assuming your buster machines (which are working) have similar setups to bpi51,
> you couls try the two commands (and all the others in this thread) on one of
> those.
> 
one of those machines reports this for the -l option:

gene@sixty40:~$ lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote -l
PageSize/Media Size: Custom.WIDTHxHEIGHT *Letter Legal Executive 
FanFoldGermanLegal A4 A5 A6 Env10 EnvMonarch EnvDL EnvC5 ISOB5 B5 ISOB6 
B6 4x6 Postcard DoublePostcardRotated EnvYou4 195x270mm 184x260mm 
197x273mm CUSTOM1 CUSTOM2 CUSTOM3
BrMediaType/MediaType: *PLAIN THIN THICK THICKERPAPER2 BOND ENV ENVTHICK 
ENVTHIN RECYCLED
InputSlot/InputSlot: MANUAL *TRAY1
Duplex/Duplex: DuplexTumble *DuplexNoTumble None
Resolution/Resolution: 300dpi *600dpi 2400x600dpi
TonerSaveMode/Toner Save: *OFF ON
Sleep/Sleep Time [Min.]: *PrinterDefault 2minutes 10minutes 30minutes

the diff between a working buster from an ls -l /etc/cups showing:
gene@GO704:~/linuxcnc/src$ ls -l /etc/cups
total 64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27303 Apr 10  2019 cups-browsed.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  6402 Feb 26 15:05 cupsd.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2923 May 23  2022 cups-files.conf
drwxr-xr-x 2 root lp    4096 May  1 00:00 ppd
-rw------- 1 root lp    1882 May  1 00:00 printers.conf
-rw------- 1 root lp     111 May  1 00:00 printers.conf.O
drwx------ 2 root lp    4096 May 23  2022 ssl
-rw-r----- 1 root lp     387 May  1 00:00 subscriptions.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root lp      93 May  1 00:00 subscriptions.conf.O
which works fine, And a non-working bullseye:
gene@bpi51:~$ ls -l /etc/cups/
total 100
-rw------- 1 root lp     111 Dec  2 23:13 classes.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30436 Mar 14  2022 cups-browsed.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  6456 Oct 15  2022 cupsd.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3047 May 23  2022 cups-files.conf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10982 Jan  2  2021 cups-pdf.conf
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 May 23  2022 interfaces
drwxr-xr-x 2 root lp    4096 Dec  2 23:13 ppd
-rw------- 1 root lp     529 May  1 10:37 printers.conf
-rw------- 1 root lp     529 May  1 10:36 printers.conf.O
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   240 Oct 15  2022 raw.convs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   211 Oct 15  2022 raw.types
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   142 May 23  2022 snmp.conf
drwx------ 2 root lp    4096 May 23  2022 ssl
-rw-r----- 1 root lp     524 May  1 00:00 subscriptions.conf
-rw-r----- 1 root lp     234 May  1 00:00 subscriptions.conf.O

So call me puzzled. I've been called worse.;o)>


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>

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#257809 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2023-05-01 19:40 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.
Message-ID<GqFFf-5QDR-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257806
On Mon 01 May 2023 at 13:03:50 -0400, gene heskett wrote:

> On 5/1/23 12:30, Brian wrote:
> > 
> > Assuming your buster machines (which are working) have similar setups to bpi51,
> > you couls try the two commands (and all the others in this thread) on one of
> > those.
> > 
> one of those machines reports this for the -l option:
> 
> gene@sixty40:~$ lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote -l
> PageSize/Media Size: Custom.WIDTHxHEIGHT *Letter Legal Executive
> FanFoldGermanLegal A4 A5 A6 Env10 EnvMonarch EnvDL EnvC5 ISOB5 B5 ISOB6 B6
> 4x6 Postcard DoublePostcardRotated EnvYou4 195x270mm 184x260mm 197x273mm
> CUSTOM1 CUSTOM2 CUSTOM3
> BrMediaType/MediaType: *PLAIN THIN THICK THICKERPAPER2 BOND ENV ENVTHICK
> ENVTHIN RECYCLED
> InputSlot/InputSlot: MANUAL *TRAY1
> Duplex/Duplex: DuplexTumble *DuplexNoTumble None
> Resolution/Resolution: 300dpi *600dpi 2400x600dpi
> TonerSaveMode/Toner Save: *OFF ON
> Sleep/Sleep Time [Min.]: *PrinterDefault 2minutes 10minutes 30minutes

Looks reasonable. A similar command on the server should give a similar output.

The reason 'lp -d HLL2320D_coyote printer.cfg' failed is because CUPS is unable
to query the HLL2320D_coyote printer for its attributes. Printing from anything
else, such as Firefox, will also fail. CUPS on the bullseye machine appears to
be broken.

[...]

A possible way forward is to execute

  sudo lpadmin -p HLL2320D-RAW -v ipp://192.168.71.3:631/printers/HLL2320D -E -m raw

and try

  lp -d HLL2320D-RAW printer.cfg

-- 
Brian.

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#257822 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-05-02 00:00 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.
Message-ID<GqJIR-5SZa-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257809
On 5/1/23 13:34, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 01 May 2023 at 13:03:50 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> 
>> On 5/1/23 12:30, Brian wrote:
>>>
>>> Assuming your buster machines (which are working) have similar setups to bpi51,
>>> you couls try the two commands (and all the others in this thread) on one of
>>> those.
>>>
>> one of those machines reports this for the -l option:
>>
>> gene@sixty40:~$ lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote -l
>> PageSize/Media Size: Custom.WIDTHxHEIGHT *Letter Legal Executive
>> FanFoldGermanLegal A4 A5 A6 Env10 EnvMonarch EnvDL EnvC5 ISOB5 B5 ISOB6 B6
>> 4x6 Postcard DoublePostcardRotated EnvYou4 195x270mm 184x260mm 197x273mm
>> CUSTOM1 CUSTOM2 CUSTOM3
>> BrMediaType/MediaType: *PLAIN THIN THICK THICKERPAPER2 BOND ENV ENVTHICK
>> ENVTHIN RECYCLED
>> InputSlot/InputSlot: MANUAL *TRAY1
>> Duplex/Duplex: DuplexTumble *DuplexNoTumble None
>> Resolution/Resolution: 300dpi *600dpi 2400x600dpi
>> TonerSaveMode/Toner Save: *OFF ON
>> Sleep/Sleep Time [Min.]: *PrinterDefault 2minutes 10minutes 30minutes
> 
> Looks reasonable. A similar command on the server should give a similar output.
> 
> The reason 'lp -d HLL2320D_coyote printer.cfg' failed is because CUPS is unable
> to query the HLL2320D_coyote printer for its attributes. Printing from anything
> else, such as Firefox, will also fail. CUPS on the bullseye machine appears to
> be broken.
> 
> [...]
> 
> A possible way forward is to execute
> 
>    sudo lpadmin -p HLL2320D-RAW -v ipp://192.168.71.3:631/printers/HLL2320D -E -m raw
which gets me this warning:
gene@bpi51:~$ sudo lpadmin -p HLL2320D-RAW -v 
ipp://192.168.71.3:631/printers/HLL2320D -E -m raw
[sudo] password for gene:
lpadmin: Raw queues are deprecated and will stop working in a future 
version of CUPS.
lpadmin: Use the 'everywhere' model for shared printers.

And I wouldn't use the everywhere option ever as it cripples the printer 
down to the lowest common performing option list, losing among other 
things, the duplex ability. So it MUST use the Brother driver.

> 
> and try
> 
then I ran this w/o the sudo:
>    lp -d HLL2320D-RAW printer.cfg
And got this:
gene@bpi51:~$ lp -d HLL2320D-RAW printer.cfg
request id is HLL2320D-RAW-1 (1 file(s))

printing the file in portrait mode, full duplex, but the file is wider 
and I would normally put it in landscape mode to reduce the 
auto-word-wrapping confusion. Does -o landscape still work with the raw 
option?

Yes, provided the -olandscape is after the -d argument. That file is a 
3d printer description for klipper, 5 pages in landscape mode.  And is 
the first and 2nd time I've been able to print it. Thank you very much.
Can we continue, making a shell script to do this again with all 
variations available for the -o options of lp?

Take care & stay well Brian.

> 

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>

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#257828 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2023-05-02 01:10 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.
Message-ID<GqKOB-5TRk-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257822
On Mon 01 May 2023 at 17:53:08 -0400, gene heskett wrote:

> On 5/1/23 13:34, Brian wrote:

[...]

> > A possible way forward is to execute
> > 
> >    sudo lpadmin -p HLL2320D-RAW -v ipp://192.168.71.3:631/printers/HLL2320D -E -m raw
> which gets me this warning:
> gene@bpi51:~$ sudo lpadmin -p HLL2320D-RAW -v
> ipp://192.168.71.3:631/printers/HLL2320D -E -m raw
> [sudo] password for gene:
> lpadmin: Raw queues are deprecated and will stop working in a future version
> of CUPS.

A standard warning that is clear enough.

> lpadmin: Use the 'everywhere' model for shared printers.
> 
> And I wouldn't use the everywhere option ever as it cripples the printer
> down to the lowest common performing option list, losing among other things,
> the duplex ability. So it MUST use the Brother driver.

Your demand is granted. -m raw uses the Brother driver on coyote.
 
> > 
> > and try
> > 
> then I ran this w/o the sudo:
> >    lp -d HLL2320D-RAW printer.cfg
> And got this:
> gene@bpi51:~$ lp -d HLL2320D-RAW printer.cfg
> request id is HLL2320D-RAW-1 (1 file(s))

That's OK.

> printing the file in portrait mode, full duplex, but the file is wider and I
> would normally put it in landscape mode to reduce the auto-word-wrapping
> confusion. Does -o landscape still work with the raw option?
> 
> Yes, provided the -olandscape is after the -d argument. That file is a 3d
> printer description for klipper, 5 pages in landscape mode.  And is the
> first and 2nd time I've been able to print it. Thank you very much.
> Can we continue, making a shell script to do this again with all variations
> available for the -o options of lp?

See the lpadmin manual for how to set up different queues with differnent
options on bpi51.

Glad you are now printing, but you really need to fix the CUPS installation.

-- 
Brian.

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#257808 — Re: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.

Fromgene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2023-05-01 19:30 +0200
SubjectRe: repeat of previous question that has gone unansweredseveraltimes.
Message-ID<GqFvz-5QAt-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#257805
On 5/1/23 12:30, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 01 May 2023 at 11:39:29 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> 
>> On 5/1/23 11:28, Brian wrote:
>>> On Mon 01 May 2023 at 11:02:58 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/1/23 10:40, Brian wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>> Your printing situation appears to be a sane one, so now for a test. Do
>>>>>
>>>>>      lp -d HLL2320D_coyote ANY_FILE_YOU_WANT
>>>>>
>>>> Is not working, shell appears frozen but eventually returns:
>>>> gene@bpi51:~$ lp -d HLL2320D_coyote printer.cfg
>>>> lp: The printer or class does not exist.
>>>
>>> But HLL2320D_coyote does exist. It is seen in the outputs of 'lpstat -l -e'
>>> and 'sudo lpinfo -v'. Give
>>>
>>>     lpoptopns -p HLL2320D_coyote
>> gene@bpi51:~$ lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote
>> device-uri=ipps://HLL2320D%20%40%20coyote._ipps._tcp.local/cups
>> printer-info='HLL2320D @ coyote' printer-make-and-model='Brother HL-L2320D
>> series' printer-type=25202710
> 
> The print queue specified by -p is queried for some information about itself.
> Its reponse is given and it seems a very reasonable one.
> 
>>>     lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote -l
>> gene@bpi51:~$ lpoptions -p HLL2320D_coyote -l
>> lpoptions: Unable to get PPD file for HLL2320D_coyote: The printer or class
>> does not exist.
> 
> The -l option asks the queue for the specific options it offers. The response
> indicates something wrong with CUPS on bpi51. I haven't any problem when doing
> this and getting sensible outputs on my Debian unstable machine.

Which isn't quite a 1:1 comparison as that will be bookworm shortly.

Or, should I update the bullseyes to unstable? IDK and I'm not even sure 
how...

> Assuming your buster machines (which are working) have similar setups to bpi51,

Which is a bullseye machine. And has a totally different content to the 
/etc/cups directory as shown by my last post, much more complex on the 
bullseye installs that don't work.

> you couls try the two commands (and all the others in this thread) on one of
> those.
> 
I'd think I could start by comparing cupsd.conf's, but miss And I can't 
see the trees for all this forest in the way in both, but missing is a 
client.conf. I think... But that is probably whats wrong, me thinking.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
  - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>

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