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  Email clients and IMAP search support Andre Rodier <andre@rodier.me> - 2023-04-16 18:10 +0200
    Re: Email clients and IMAP search support Andre Rodier <andre@rodier.me> - 2023-04-16 18:20 +0200
      Re: Email clients and IMAP search support Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2023-04-17 06:30 +0200
        Re: Email clients and IMAP search support André Rodier <andre@rodier.me> - 2023-04-17 13:10 +0200
    Re: Email clients and IMAP search support Lionel Élie Mamane <lionel@mamane.lu> - 2023-04-26 10:10 +0200
      Re: Email clients and IMAP search support "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> - 2023-04-26 15:40 +0200
        Re: Email clients and IMAP search support 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2023-05-05 07:40 +0200

#257303 — Email clients and IMAP search support

Hi,

Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server side IMAP search, please ?

I have an email server that support indexing attachment contents, and when I run a query from the command line using
doveadm search or even TELNET, it is returning the correct email indexes.

However, when I try the same search with a desktop client, nothing is returned. I tried Thunderbird, Balsa, Claws and
Geary. None of them is satisfactory.

Thanks for your help.

Thanks,
André

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#257304

On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 17:01 +0100, Andre Rodier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server side IMAP search, please ?
> 
> I have an email server that support indexing attachment contents, and when I run a query from the command line using
> doveadm search or even TELNET, it is returning the correct email indexes.
> 
> However, when I try the same search with a desktop client, nothing is returned. I tried Thunderbird, Balsa, Claws and
> Geary. None of them is satisfactory.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Thanks,
> André
> 

OK, I am answering to myself, Gnome Evolution works, it is sending the search query to the server.

Even in some advanced RTL languages like Arabic.

Great!

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#257318

Andre Rodier <andre@rodier.me> writes:

> On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 17:01 +0100, Andre Rodier wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server
>> side IMAP search, please ?
>> 
>> I have an email server that support indexing attachment contents,
>> and when I run a query from the command line using
>> doveadm search or even TELNET, it is returning the correct email indexes.
>> 
>> However, when I try the same search with a desktop client, nothing
>> is returned. I tried Thunderbird, Balsa, Claws and
>> Geary. None of them is satisfactory.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> André
>> 
>
> OK, I am answering to myself, Gnome Evolution works, it is sending the
> search query to the server.
>
> Even in some advanced RTL languages like Arabic.
>
> Great!

Hellow Andre,

Searching for IMAP is good with Gmail web interface, i think. If you
have web browser such as mozilla firefox, chromium browser. Try to
gmail, just with web browser. It is not bad in my experience. And also i
am Debian user (Debian 11 Bullseye under Chromebook).

As you know, Gmail is good with UTF-8 support / Searching / Labeling.

See here:
https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/-/commit/314e84446d1002726aec0ccf81a756d54568bfbb

In real world, i use both Gmail and Emacs Gnus for email.

Sincerely, Byung-Hee

-- 
^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

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#257323

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Hi, Byung-Hee.

This is definitely not what I asked, and we don't ask for a Gmail advertisement.

I don't understand what prompted you to write such an answer, this is a waste of resource and time.

Moreover, I have found my answer.

Andre.


17 Apr 2023 06:29:12 Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>:

> Andre Rodier <andre@rodier.me> writes:
> 
>> On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 17:01 +0100, Andre Rodier wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server
>>> side IMAP search, please ?
>>> 
>>> I have an email server that support indexing attachment contents,
>>> and when I run a query from the command line using
>>> doveadm search or even TELNET, it is returning the correct email indexes.
>>> 
>>> However, when I try the same search with a desktop client, nothing
>>> is returned. I tried Thunderbird, Balsa, Claws and
>>> Geary. None of them is satisfactory.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> André
>>> 
>> 
>> OK, I am answering to myself, Gnome Evolution works, it is sending the
>> search query to the server.
>> 
>> Even in some advanced RTL languages like Arabic.
>> 
>> Great!
> 
> Hellow Andre,
> 
> Searching for IMAP is good with Gmail web interface, i think. If you
> have web browser such as mozilla firefox, chromium browser. Try to
> gmail, just with web browser. It is not bad in my experience. And also i
> am Debian user (Debian 11 Bullseye under Chromebook).
> 
> As you know, Gmail is good with UTF-8 support / Searching / Labeling.
> 
> See here:
> https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/-/commit/314e84446d1002726aec0ccf81a756d54568bfbb
> 
> In real world, i use both Gmail and Emacs Gnus for email.
> 
> Sincerely, Byung-Hee
> 
> -- 
> ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//

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#257619

On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:01:53PM +0100, Andre Rodier wrote:

> Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server
> side IMAP search, please ?

mutt makes a server-side search when the search operator starts with
"=" instead of "~"; this also means that it is a string search rather
than a regexp search, if I understand correctly this is due to the
IMAP protocol search not supporting regexps.

So e.g. "=s f.o" makes a server-side search for the exact string "f.o"
in the subject, but "~s f.o" makes a client-side search in subject for
f, then any character, then o.

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#257625

Lionel Élie Mamane <lionel@mamane.lu> writes:

> On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:01:53PM +0100, Andre Rodier wrote:
>
>> Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server
>> side IMAP search, please ?
>
> mutt makes a server-side search when the search operator starts with
> "=" instead of "~"; this also means that it is a string search rather
> than a regexp search, if I understand correctly this is due to the
> IMAP protocol search not supporting regexps.
>
> So e.g. "=s f.o" makes a server-side search for the exact string "f.o"
> in the subject, but "~s f.o" makes a client-side search in subject for
> f, then any character, then o.

With Gnus on Emacs you can run general IMAP queries:

  Example: C-u G G ON "17-Aug-2011" RET imap RET
  Other keywords: SUBJECT TO FROM BEFORE SINCE
  See: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1730#section-6.4.4

Cheers,

Loris

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#257959

2023-04-26 (수), 15:19 +0200, Loris Bennett:
> Lionel Élie Mamane <lionel@mamane.lu> writes:
> 
> > On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:01:53PM +0100, Andre Rodier wrote:
> > 
> > > Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server
> > > side IMAP search, please ?
> > 
> > mutt makes a server-side search when the search operator starts
> > with
> > "=" instead of "~"; this also means that it is a string search
> > rather
> > than a regexp search, if I understand correctly this is due to the
> > IMAP protocol search not supporting regexps.
> > 
> > So e.g. "=s f.o" makes a server-side search for the exact string
> > "f.o"
> > in the subject, but "~s f.o" makes a client-side search in subject
> > for
> > f, then any character, then o.
> 
> With Gnus on Emacs you can run general IMAP queries:
> 
>   Example: C-u G G ON "17-Aug-2011" RET imap RET
>   Other keywords: SUBJECT TO FROM BEFORE SINCE
>   See: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1730#section-6.4.4
> 
> Cheers,

Hellow Loris!

Wow thanks for using Gnus^^^

Next time i will try it, thanks!


Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea

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