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  perl module listgarden "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2023-08-02 23:10 +0200
    Re: perl module listgarden David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2023-08-03 00:20 +0200
      Re: perl module listgarden "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2023-08-03 05:10 +0200
        Re: perl module listgarden debian-user@howorth.org.uk - 2023-08-03 12:20 +0200
        Feeds aren't yet dead (Was: Re: perl module listgarden) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-08-03 19:40 +0200
          Re: Feeds aren't yet dead (Was: Re: perl module listgarden) "Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> - 2023-08-03 20:40 +0200
            Re: Feeds aren't yet dead (Was: Re: perl module listgarden) Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2023-08-03 20:40 +0200
              Re: Feeds aren't yet dead (Was: Re: perl module listgarden) Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2023-08-03 23:00 +0200
                Re: Feeds aren't yet dead (Was: Re: perl module listgarden) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2023-08-04 03:50 +0200

#260603 — perl module listgarden

I have not used Perl for several years, and I do not know how to
proceed.  

I am trying to install Dan Bricklin's RSS feed generator, ListGarden.

metacpan.org cannot find the listgarden module.

Here is the output:

 perl listgarden.pl
 Can't locate ListGarden.pm in @INC (you may need to install the
 ListGarden module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl
 /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.32.1
 /usr/local/share/perl/5.32.1 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.32
 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl-base
 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.32 /usr/share/perl/5.32
 /usr/local/lib/site_perl) at listgarden.pl line 21.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at listgarden.pl line 21.
 
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#260607

On 8/2/23 14:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> I have not used Perl for several years, and I do not know how to
> proceed.
> I am trying to install Dan Bricklin's RSS feed generator, ListGarden.
> 
> metacpan.org cannot find the listgarden module.
> 
> Here is the output:
> 
> perl listgarden.pl
> Can't locate ListGarden.pm in @INC (you may need to install the
> ListGarden module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl
> /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.32.1
> /usr/local/share/perl/5.32.1 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.32
> /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl-base
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.32 /usr/share/perl/5.32
> /usr/local/lib/site_perl) at listgarden.pl line 21.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at listgarden.pl line 21.


ListGarden does not appear to be a Debian package:

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=LIstGarden&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all


MetaCPAN is unable to find ListGarden:

https://metacpan.org/search?size=20&q=ListGarden


STFW "ListGarden" I see:

http://www.softwaregarden.com/products/listgarden/


Under "How to get it", follow the link "Generic Perl Version":

http://www.softwaregarden.com/products/listgarden/plainperl.html


The instructions do not mention a Makefile.PL or Build.PL, so it appears 
that you will need to install distribution files, adjust the PERL5LIB 
environment variable, configure your services/ apps, etc., manually.


David

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#260622

On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 03:18:12PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
>On 8/2/23 14:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>>I have not used Perl for several years, and I do not know how to
>>proceed.
>>I am trying to install Dan Bricklin's RSS feed generator, ListGarden.
>>
>>metacpan.org cannot find the listgarden module.
>>
>>Here is the output:
>>
>>perl listgarden.pl
>>Can't locate ListGarden.pm in @INC (you may need to install the
>>ListGarden module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl
>>/usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.32.1
>>/usr/local/share/perl/5.32.1 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.32
>>/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl-base
>>/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.32 /usr/share/perl/5.32
>>/usr/local/lib/site_perl) at listgarden.pl line 21.
>>BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at listgarden.pl line 21.
>
>ListGarden does not appear to be a Debian package:
>
>https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=LIstGarden&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
>
>
>MetaCPAN is unable to find ListGarden:
>
>https://metacpan.org/search?size=20&q=ListGarden
>
>STFW "ListGarden" I see:
>
>http://www.softwaregarden.com/products/listgarden/
>
>Under "How to get it", follow the link "Generic Perl Version":
>
>http://www.softwaregarden.com/products/listgarden/plainperl.html
>
>The instructions do not mention a Makefile.PL or Build.PL, so it 
>appears that you will need to install distribution files, adjust the 
>PERL5LIB environment variable, configure your services/ apps, etc., 
>manually.

Thanks, David.  I did follow the plainperl.html link.  All the files
came from Dan Bricklin's ListGarden web site.

Perhaps the Perlmongers mail list still is active.

For that matter, is RSS still in use?

RLH

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#260626

"Russell L. Harris" <russell@rlharris.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 03:18:12PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> >On 8/2/23 14:03, Russell L. Harris wrote:  
> >>I have not used Perl for several years, and I do not know how to
> >>proceed.
> >>I am trying to install Dan Bricklin's RSS feed generator,
> >>ListGarden.
> >>
> >>metacpan.org cannot find the listgarden module.
> >>
> >>Here is the output:
> >>
> >>perl listgarden.pl
> >>Can't locate ListGarden.pm in @INC (you may need to install the
> >>ListGarden module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl
> >>/usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.32.1
> >>/usr/local/share/perl/5.32.1 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.32
> >>/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl-base
> >>/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.32 /usr/share/perl/5.32
> >>/usr/local/lib/site_perl) at listgarden.pl line 21.
> >>BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at listgarden.pl line 21.  
> >
> >ListGarden does not appear to be a Debian package:
> >
> >https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=LIstGarden&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
> >
> >
> >MetaCPAN is unable to find ListGarden:
> >
> >https://metacpan.org/search?size=20&q=ListGarden
> >
> >STFW "ListGarden" I see:
> >
> >http://www.softwaregarden.com/products/listgarden/
> >
> >Under "How to get it", follow the link "Generic Perl Version":
> >
> >http://www.softwaregarden.com/products/listgarden/plainperl.html
> >
> >The instructions do not mention a Makefile.PL or Build.PL, so it 
> >appears that you will need to install distribution files, adjust the 
> >PERL5LIB environment variable, configure your services/ apps, etc., 
> >manually.  
> 
> Thanks, David.  I did follow the plainperl.html link.  All the files
> came from Dan Bricklin's ListGarden web site.

The module is in the same directory as the perl script. And as the
error message says, your perl is not set to look for it there. You can
add it by invoking the program as:

$ perl -I . ./listgarden.pl

or you can move/copy the module to one of the directories listed.

> Perhaps the Perlmongers mail list still is active.

It is, but why?

> For that matter, is RSS still in use?

Yes
 
> RLH
> 

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#260629 — Feeds aren't yet dead (Was: Re: perl module listgarden)

Hello,

On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 03:07:47AM +0000, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> For that matter, is RSS still in use?

$ r2e list | wc -l
72

Cheers,
Andy

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#260631 — Re: Feeds aren't yet dead (Was: Re: perl module listgarden)

On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 05:29:33PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
>Hello,
>
>On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 03:07:47AM +0000, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>> For that matter, is RSS still in use?
>
>$ r2e list | wc -l
>72

Andy, I don't understand; kindly explain.

I have a blog and a web site, both of which I create with make4ht, so
they have no RSS feed.  Of course, everyone else uses WordPress, which
can produce a RSS feed.  But I compose with LaTeX as my markup
language, and (the last I checked) LaTeX is only marginally-compatible
with WordPress.

But I am a dinosaur, and I am not sure that RSS still is vital or even
helpful to a web site; therefore my query.

RLH

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#260632 — Re: Feeds aren't yet dead (Was: Re: perl module listgarden)

Hi Russell,

On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 06:23:15PM +0000, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 05:29:33PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 03:07:47AM +0000, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > > For that matter, is RSS still in use?
> > 
> > $ r2e list | wc -l
> > 72
> 
> Andy, I don't understand; kindly explain.

I am notified about new posts to feeds that I follow by rss2email. I
have 72 feeds that I actively follow.

> But I am a dinosaur, and I am not sure that RSS still is vital or even
> helpful to a web site; therefore my query.

It is niche but very appreciated by those of us that use it.
Basically if I like a blog or similar service then I like to follow
it. But I will never see new postings unless they have a feed, or if
I follow them on Fediverse. I'm not going to sit there reloading 72
web sites every day.

(Doesn't have to be RSS; any feed tech like Atom is fine also)

Cheers,
Andy

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#260634 — Re: Feeds aren't yet dead (Was: Re: perl module listgarden)

Andy Smith wrote:
>On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 06:23:15PM +0000, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 05:29:33PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
>> > On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 03:07:47AM +0000, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>> > > For that matter, is RSS still in use?
>> > 
>> > $ r2e list | wc -l
>> > 72
>> 
>> Andy, I don't understand; kindly explain.
>
>I am notified about new posts to feeds that I follow by rss2email. I
>have 72 feeds that I actively follow.
>
>> But I am a dinosaur, and I am not sure that RSS still is vital or even
>> helpful to a web site; therefore my query.
>
>It is niche but very appreciated by those of us that use it.
>Basically if I like a blog or similar service then I like to follow
>it. But I will never see new postings unless they have a feed, or if
>I follow them on Fediverse. I'm not going to sit there reloading 72
>web sites every day.
>
>(Doesn't have to be RSS; any feed tech like Atom is fine also)

Similar here. I'm using FreshRSS daily to pick up on RSS/atom feeds
from all over the place...

-- 
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#260636 — Re: Feeds aren't yet dead (Was: Re: perl module listgarden)

On Thu, 03 Aug 2023 21:33:24 +0100
Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> wrote:

> Andy Smith wrote:
> >On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 06:23:15PM +0000, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> >> On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 05:29:33PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 03:07:47AM +0000, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> >> > > For that matter, is RSS still in use?
> >> > 
> >> > $ r2e list | wc -l
> >> > 72
> >> 
> >> Andy, I don't understand; kindly explain.
> >
> >I am notified about new posts to feeds that I follow by rss2email. I
> >have 72 feeds that I actively follow.
> >
> >> But I am a dinosaur, and I am not sure that RSS still is vital or even
> >> helpful to a web site; therefore my query.
> >
> >It is niche but very appreciated by those of us that use it.
> >Basically if I like a blog or similar service then I like to follow
> >it. But I will never see new postings unless they have a feed, or if
> >I follow them on Fediverse. I'm not going to sit there reloading 72
> >web sites every day.
> >
> >(Doesn't have to be RSS; any feed tech like Atom is fine also)
> 
> Similar here. I'm using FreshRSS daily to pick up on RSS/atom feeds
> from all over the place...

Ditto - Liferea for all kinds of blogs and other sites that
regularly / semi-regularly publish new content, including tech and
Linux / FLOSS sites such as Ars Technica, LWN.net, etc.

-- 
Celejar

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