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Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root

Started byRichmond <richmond@criptext.com>
First post2022-05-11 16:20 +0200
Last post2022-05-16 11:40 +0200
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  Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> - 2022-05-11 16:20 +0200
    Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2022-05-11 22:50 +0200
      Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> - 2022-05-12 16:40 +0200
        Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2022-05-13 01:20 +0200
          Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> - 2022-05-13 18:30 +0200
            Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2022-05-13 21:00 +0200
              Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-05-13 21:10 +0200
                Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-05-13 22:50 +0200
                  Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-05-13 23:30 +0200
                    Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-05-14 02:50 +0200
                      Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-05-14 06:40 +0200
                      Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-05-16 05:50 +0200
                        Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-05-16 13:20 +0200
                          Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-05-16 17:50 +0200
                    Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-05-14 06:40 +0200
                      Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2022-05-16 01:40 +0200
                        Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-05-16 17:50 +0200
                    Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-05-14 07:20 +0200
                Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2022-05-14 00:10 +0200
              Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> - 2022-05-13 21:50 +0200
                Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> - 2022-05-14 12:20 +0200
                  Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-05-14 13:30 +0200
                    Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> - 2022-05-14 15:20 +0200
                      Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2022-05-15 00:20 +0200
                        Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> - 2022-05-15 16:20 +0200
                          Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2022-05-16 02:30 +0200
                            Re: Editing the DNS with Network Manager Non Root Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> - 2022-05-16 11:40 +0200

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#248197

FromRichmond <richmond@criptext.com>
Date2022-05-14 12:20 +0200
Message-ID<EmX2p-foWo-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#248170
Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> writes:

> David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> writes:
>
>> On 5/13/22 09:02, Richmond wrote:
>>> David Christensen writes:
>>>> On 5/12/22 07:17, Richmond wrote:
>>>>> David Christensen writes:
>>>>>> On 5/11/22 06:55, Richmond wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a network manager applet on my xfce4 desktop. I am logged
>>>>>>> in as a non root user, and I can select edit connections and
>>>>>>> change the IPv4 settings to DHCP address only and then put in a
>>>>>>> DNS, then save. If I look at /etc/resolv.conf though nothing has
>>>>>>> changed. Restarting networking or rebooting makes no
>>>>>>> difference. Perhaps this menu option should only appear for
>>>>>>> root, or should cause an error message for non root users?
>>
>>>> If I choose "Automatic (DHCP) addresses only", the labels for the
>>>> second and third settings change.  Putting in some test data:
>>>>
>>>>      Additional static addresses -> Add: Address -> 192.168.123.45
>>>> 	Netmask -> 255.255.255.0 Gateway -> 192.168.5.1
>>>>
>>>>      DNS servers -> 192.168.123.45,192.168.123.67
>>>>
>>>>      Search domains -> frunobulax.org
>>>>
>>>>      DHCP client ID -> empty
>>>>
>>>>      Require IPv4 addressing for this connection to complete ->
>>>>      unchecked
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I then click "Save".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I then enter the root password in the pop-up that opens.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I then close the "Network Connections" window and reboot.
>>>>
>>>> 2022-05-12 16:10:25 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 104 May 12 16:09 /etc/resolv.conf
>>>>
>>>> 2022-05-12 16:10:34 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ cat /etc/resolv.conf #
>>>> Generated by NetworkManager search frunobulax.org nameserver
>>>> 192.168.123.45 nameserver 192.168.123.67
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is this the results you expect?
>>
>>> I didn't put in a search domain, netmask, or gateway.
>>
>>
>> Put them in and try again.  Without crawling the code, we have no
>> idea what actually matters.
>>
>>
>>> I didn't get prompted for root access. Perhaps that is the problem?
>>
>>
>> I would suspect it indicates that Network Manager does not think your
>> network settings changed.
>>
>>
>>> stat /etc/resolv.conf shows that the file has been updated but its
>>> content doesn't change.
>>
>>
>> My /etc/resolv.conf did not change after running Network Manager; it
>> changed after rebooting.  (Is the former a bug or a feature?)
>>
>>
>> What happens if you create a new connection and use the Manual
>> method?
>>
>>
>> If all else fails -- backup, pull the OS disk, insert a blank disk,
>> do a fresh install, and restore.  Keep meticulous records.  Use a
>> version control system.  Learn a scripting language and automate
>> sysadmin chores.
>>
>>
>> David
>
> I switched to the mate desktop, and the procedure works, i.e. it
> prompts for a root password and updates resolv.conf, after
> disconnecting and reconnecting the network.
>
> I expect there is some component of xfce4 which is supposed to prompt
> for the root password. Perhaps it is not installed. I don't know what
> it is called.

Is there a debian package for this? :

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xfce-polkit

"A simple PolicyKit authentication agent for XFCE"

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#248199

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2022-05-14 13:30 +0200
Message-ID<EmY8a-fpxj-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#248197

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On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:50:46AM +0100, Richmond wrote:
> Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> writes:
> 
> > David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> writes:

[...]

> > I expect there is some component of xfce4 which is supposed to prompt
> > for the root password. Perhaps it is not installed. I don't know what
> > it is called.
> 
> Is there a debian package for this? :
> 
> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xfce-polkit
> 
> "A simple PolicyKit authentication agent for XFCE"

There seem to be several options [1]. Gksu, some polkit thingy...
Blame my search engine if it fails ;-)


Cheers

[1] https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=11728
-- 
t

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#248204

FromRichmond <richmond@criptext.com>
Date2022-05-14 15:20 +0200
Message-ID<EmZQB-fqzD-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#248199
<tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:

> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:50:46AM +0100, Richmond wrote:
>> Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> writes:
>> 
>> > David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> > I expect there is some component of xfce4 which is supposed to prompt
>> > for the root password. Perhaps it is not installed. I don't know what
>> > it is called.
>> 
>> Is there a debian package for this? :
>> 
>> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xfce-polkit
>> 
>> "A simple PolicyKit authentication agent for XFCE"
>
> There seem to be several options [1]. Gksu, some polkit thingy...
> Blame my search engine if it fails ;-)
>
>
> Cheers
>
> [1] https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=11728

Gksu is a frontend for su which a developer would apply to an app as I
understand it. I am dealing with an applet, so I cannot edit its icon
and put a wrapper in.

Some polkit thingy would be xfce-polkit I think, but I found no debian
package.

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#248219

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2022-05-15 00:20 +0200
Message-ID<En8hb-fvsD-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#248204
On 5/14/22 05:57, Richmond wrote:
> <tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
> 
>> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:50:46AM +0100, Richmond wrote:
>>> Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> I expect there is some component of xfce4 which is supposed to prompt
>>>> for the root password. Perhaps it is not installed. I don't know what
>>>> it is called.
>>>
>>> Is there a debian package for this? :
>>>
>>> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xfce-polkit
>>>
>>> "A simple PolicyKit authentication agent for XFCE"
>>
>> There seem to be several options [1]. Gksu, some polkit thingy...
>> Blame my search engine if it fails ;-)
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> [1] https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=11728
> 
> Gksu is a frontend for su which a developer would apply to an app as I
> understand it. I am dealing with an applet, so I cannot edit its icon
> and put a wrapper in.
> 
> Some polkit thingy would be xfce-polkit I think, but I found no debian
> package.


I do not see a package specifically for Xfce, but I do see one for MATE:

2022-05-14 15:11:15 root@laalaa ~
# apt-cache search policy kit | sort | grep polkit
gir1.2-polkit-1.0 - GObject introspection data for PolicyKit
libpolkit-agent-1-0 - PolicyKit Authentication Agent API
libpolkit-agent-1-dev - PolicyKit Authentication Agent API - development 
files
libpolkit-gobject-1-0 - PolicyKit Authorization API
libpolkit-gobject-1-dev - PolicyKit Authorization API - development files
libpolkit-qt5-1-1 - PolicyKit-qt5-1 library
libpolkit-qt5-1-dev - PolicyKit-qt5-1 development files
lxpolkit - LXDE PolicyKit authentication agent
mate-polkit - MATE authentication agent for PolicyKit-1
mate-polkit-bin - MATE authentication agent for PolicyKit-1 (executable 
wrapper script)
mate-polkit-common - MATE authentication agent for PolicyKit-1 (common 
files)
polkit-kde-agent-1 - KDE dialogs for PolicyKit
ukui-polkit - UKUI authentication agent for PolicyKit-1



My Debian 11 Xfce has the following, installed by 
debian-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso:

2022-05-14 15:13:47 root@laalaa ~
# dpkg-query -l '*polkit*'
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| 
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name                        Version          Architecture Description
+++-===========================-================-============-=================>
ii  gir1.2-polkit-1.0           0.105-31+deb11u1 amd64        GObject 
introspec>
un  gir1.2-polkitagent-1.0      <none>           <none>       (no 
description a>
ii  libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd64   0.105-31+deb11u1 amd64        PolicyKit 
Authent>
ii  libpolkit-gobject-1-0:amd64 0.105-31+deb11u1 amd64        PolicyKit 
Authori>
un  polkit-1-auth-agent         <none>           <none>       (no 
description a>


David

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#248229

FromRichmond <richmond@criptext.com>
Date2022-05-15 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<Enngd-fEma-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#248219
David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> writes:

> On 5/14/22 05:57, Richmond wrote:
>> <tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
>> 
>>> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:50:46AM +0100, Richmond wrote:
>>>> Richmond <richmond@criptext.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> writes:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>> I expect there is some component of xfce4 which is supposed to
>>>>> prompt for the root password. Perhaps it is not installed. I don't
>>>>> know what it is called.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a debian package for this? :
>>>>
>>>> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xfce-polkit
>>>>
>>>> "A simple PolicyKit authentication agent for XFCE"
>>>
>>> There seem to be several options [1]. Gksu, some polkit thingy...
>>> Blame my search engine if it fails ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> [1] https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=11728 Gksu is a frontend
>> for su which a developer would apply to an app as I understand it. I
>> am dealing with an applet, so I cannot edit its icon and put a
>> wrapper in.  Some polkit thingy would be xfce-polkit I think, but I
>> found no debian package.
>
>
> I do not see a package specifically for Xfce, but I do see one for
> MATE:
>
> 2022-05-14 15:11:15 root@laalaa ~ # apt-cache search policy kit | sort
> | grep polkit gir1.2-polkit-1.0 - GObject introspection data for
> PolicyKit libpolkit-agent-1-0 - PolicyKit Authentication Agent API
> libpolkit-agent-1-dev - PolicyKit Authentication Agent API -
> development files libpolkit-gobject-1-0 - PolicyKit Authorization API
> libpolkit-gobject-1-dev - PolicyKit Authorization API - development
> files libpolkit-qt5-1-1 - PolicyKit-qt5-1 library libpolkit-qt5-1-dev
> - PolicyKit-qt5-1 development files lxpolkit - LXDE PolicyKit
> authentication agent mate-polkit - MATE authentication agent for
> PolicyKit-1 mate-polkit-bin - MATE authentication agent for
> PolicyKit-1 (executable wrapper script) mate-polkit-common - MATE
> authentication agent for PolicyKit-1 (common files) polkit-kde-agent-1
> - KDE dialogs for PolicyKit ukui-polkit - UKUI authentication agent
> for PolicyKit-1
>
>
>
> My Debian 11 Xfce has the following, installed by
> debian-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso:
>
> 2022-05-14 15:13:47 root@laalaa ~ # dpkg-query -l '*polkit*'
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> |
>   Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name
> Version Architecture Description
> +++-===========================-================-============-=================>
> ii gir1.2-polkit-1.0 0.105-31+deb11u1 amd64 GObject
> introspec>
> un gir1.2-polkitagent-1.0 <none> <none> (no description a> ii
> libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd64 0.105-31+deb11u1 amd64 PolicyKit Authent> ii
> libpolkit-gobject-1-0:amd64 0.105-31+deb11u1 amd64 PolicyKit Authori>
> un polkit-1-auth-agent <none> <none> (no description a>


I got it working! that's the good news, the bad news is I am not sure
how. I installed all the packages above (except polkit-1-auth-agent
which seems to be an unreal package) but it still didn't work. Then I
went into synaptic (which incidentally did not prompt for a password)
and searched for xfce and found some packages relating to the panel
which were not installed, nor part of the xfce meta package. Also I
installed policykit-1-gnome which unfortunately doesn't come up on
searches for polkit. I think this last one may be the culprit but not
sure.

Thanks for your help, and the others.

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#248257

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2022-05-16 02:30 +0200
Message-ID<EnwMx-fJQv-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#248229
On 5/15/22 06:53, Richmond wrote:
> David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> writes:
>> On 5/14/22 05:57, Richmond wrote:
>>> <tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
>>>> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:50:46AM +0100, Richmond wrote:

>>>>> Is there a debian package for this? :
>>>>>
>>>>> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xfce-polkit
>>>>>
>>>>> "A simple PolicyKit authentication agent for XFCE"

>> My Debian 11 Xfce has the following, installed by
>> debian-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso:
>>
>> 2022-05-14 15:13:47 root@laalaa ~ # dpkg-query -l '*polkit*'
>> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
>> |
>>    Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
>> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name
>> Version Architecture Description
>> +++-===========================-================-============-=================>
>> ii gir1.2-polkit-1.0 0.105-31+deb11u1 amd64 GObject
>> introspec>
>> un gir1.2-polkitagent-1.0 <none> <none> (no description a> ii
>> libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd64 0.105-31+deb11u1 amd64 PolicyKit Authent> ii
>> libpolkit-gobject-1-0:amd64 0.105-31+deb11u1 amd64 PolicyKit Authori>
>> un polkit-1-auth-agent <none> <none> (no description a>
> 
> 
> I got it working! that's the good news, the bad news is I am not sure
> how. I installed all the packages above (except polkit-1-auth-agent
> which seems to be an unreal package) but it still didn't work. Then I
> went into synaptic (which incidentally did not prompt for a password)
> and searched for xfce and found some packages relating to the panel
> which were not installed, nor part of the xfce meta package. Also I
> installed policykit-1-gnome which unfortunately doesn't come up on
> searches for polkit. I think this last one may be the culprit but not
> sure.
> 
> Thanks for your help, and the others.


I would say "you are welcome", but it sounds like your system is in a 
crumbling state.  I would backup/ check-in, pull the OS drive, insert a 
fresh OS drive, do a fresh install, and check-out/ restore/ reconfigure.


David

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#248265

FromRichmond <richmond@criptext.com>
Date2022-05-16 11:40 +0200
Message-ID<EnFmN-fOYA-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#248257
David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> writes:

> On 5/15/22 06:53, Richmond wrote:
>> David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> writes:
>>> On 5/14/22 05:57, Richmond wrote:
>>>> <tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
>>>>> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:50:46AM +0100, Richmond wrote:
>
>>>>>> Is there a debian package for this? :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xfce-polkit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "A simple PolicyKit authentication agent for XFCE"
>
>>> My Debian 11 Xfce has the following, installed by
>>> debian-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso:
>>>
>>> 2022-05-14 15:13:47 root@laalaa ~ # dpkg-query -l '*polkit*'
>>> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
>>> |
>>>    Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
>>> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name
>>> Version Architecture Description
>>> +++-===========================-================-============-=================>
>>> ii gir1.2-polkit-1.0 0.105-31+deb11u1 amd64 GObject
>>> introspec>
>>> un gir1.2-polkitagent-1.0 <none> <none> (no description a> ii
>>> libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd64 0.105-31+deb11u1 amd64 PolicyKit Authent> ii
>>> libpolkit-gobject-1-0:amd64 0.105-31+deb11u1 amd64 PolicyKit Authori>
>>> un polkit-1-auth-agent <none> <none> (no description a>
>> 
>> I got it working! that's the good news, the bad news is I am not sure
>> how. I installed all the packages above (except polkit-1-auth-agent
>> which seems to be an unreal package) but it still didn't work. Then I
>> went into synaptic (which incidentally did not prompt for a password)
>> and searched for xfce and found some packages relating to the panel
>> which were not installed, nor part of the xfce meta package. Also I
>> installed policykit-1-gnome which unfortunately doesn't come up on
>> searches for polkit. I think this last one may be the culprit but not
>> sure.
>> Thanks for your help, and the others.
>
>
> I would say "you are welcome", but it sounds like your system is in a
> crumbling state.  I would backup/ check-in, pull the OS drive, insert
> a fresh OS drive, do a fresh install, and check-out/ restore/
> reconfigure.
>
>
> David

It isn't in a crumbling state, it just had a missing package. And this
was probably due to an undeclared dependence.

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