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  Re: [SOLVED] Re: One-user system. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2022-05-08 03:00 +0200
    Re: [SOLVED] Re: One-user system. 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-05-08 03:50 +0200
      Re: [SOLVED] Re: One-user system. gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-05-08 08:00 +0200

#247973 — Re: [SOLVED] Re: One-user system.

On Fri, 06 May 2022 19:30:01 +0200 gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
wrote:

 > On Friday, 6 May 2022 13:11:13 EDT Greg Wooledge wrote:
 >
 >> On Fri, May 06, 2022 at 09:24:35AM -0700, peter@easthope.ca wrote:
 >>
 >>> What I'm doing is similar to using DOS years ago; although DOS
 >>> predates experience of most people reading now.
 >>
 >> I think you're vastly underestimating the average age of subscribers
 >> on this list.
 >
 > I think he might be too Greg. I'm 87, and largely bypassed
 > dos on my way to linux in the 90's. We've come a long way,
 > and if dos disappeared yesterday, I'd have bought a 6 pack
 > for a mini-celebration last night.  We're still trying to
 > put up with its lack of features other filesystems have
 > given us since.

If Microsoft disappeared in its entirety, I'd buy a case of
champagne and invite my friends over for a _major_ celebration.
I've spent far too much of my career working around their
poor design decisions and outright bugs.

I'm 71, and started my programming career in 1970, five
years before Microsoft existed.  The machine at my first
job had a whopping 16K of memory.  We were a service
bureau, running things like payroll and accounts
receivable for companies all over town who couldn't
afford a computer of their own (i.e. most of them).

So when someone tells me how many gigabytes of memory
I'd need to do a job, I take it with a _very_ large
grain of salt.

     We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the
     impossible for the ungrateful.  We have done so much,
     for so long, with so little, we are now qualified
     to do anything with nothing.”
       -- Konstantin Josef Jireček

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  They don't understand Microsoft
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  has stolen their car and parked
  X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  a taxi in their driveway.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Mayayana

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#247974

Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> writes:

> (... thanks ...)
> If Microsoft disappeared in its entirety, I'd buy a case of
> champagne and invite my friends over for a _major_ celebration.
> ...

That's a great idea!

> I'm 71, and started my programming career in 1970, five
> years before Microsoft existed.  The machine at my first
> job had a whopping 16K of memory.  We were a service
> bureau, running things like payroll and accounts
> receivable for companies all over town who couldn't
> afford a computer of their own (i.e. most of them).
>
> So when someone tells me how many gigabytes of memory
> I'd need to do a job, I take it with a _very_ large
> grain of salt.
>
>     We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the
>     impossible for the ungrateful.  We have done so much,
>     for so long, with so little, we are now qualified
>     to do anything with nothing.”
>       -- Konstantin Josef Jireček
>

Thanks!

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

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#247981

On Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:41:33 EDT 황병희 wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> writes:
> > (... thanks ...)
> > If Microsoft disappeared in its entirety, I'd buy a case of
> > champagne and invite my friends over for a _major_ celebration.
> > ...
> 
> That's a great idea!
> 
> > I'm 71, and started my programming career in 1970, five
> > years before Microsoft existed.  The machine at my first
> > job had a whopping 16K of memory.  We were a service
> > bureau, running things like payroll and accounts
> > receivable for companies all over town who couldn't
> > afford a computer of their own (i.e. most of them).
> > 
> > So when someone tells me how many gigabytes of memory
> > I'd need to do a job, I take it with a _very_ large
> > grain of salt.

So do I.  My first programming project in late '79 was an aid to an 
automatic station break machine at the tv station where I was then the 
ACE, back in the days when sony 3/4" u-matic tape machines were state of 
the art. With a quest super elf rca 1802 powered board with an s-100 
backplane bus, with a $400 4k of static ram memory add-on and interfacing 
I built on s-100 vector boards including a 103 line tall 8.8 character 
generator, it ran a u-matic machine to find the first frame of video to 
be aired of a finished commercial, backed the tape  up 12 seconds, ran it 
fwd and started recording a new digital count down leader from 9.9 down 
to 2.0 seconds, inserting an audio tone at the 5 second point for half a 
second which was the automatic station breaks synch tone, then put a 
second beep on the 2nd audio channel 5 seconds before the end of that 
commercial to start the next machine if there was one. If not it flashed 
a station id for half a second before switching back to the network.

All this on less than 4k of self modifying code.  And it was so stable it 
was used many times daily for 17 years, when the station burnt to the 
ground and had to start over.

I still have a paper copy of that program along with an audio cart with 
several copies on it in a bag on the top shelf above my chair. Now I'm 
87, 20 some years retired, and playing with 4 cnc metalworking machines 
I've rebuilt, and 3d printers in my dotage. And have managed to make the 
reaper blink first several times.


> >     We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the
> >     impossible for the ungrateful.  We have done so much,
> >     for so long, with so little, we are now qualified
> >     to do anything with nothing.”
> >     
> >       -- Konstantin Josef Jireček
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee
> 
> --
> ^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//
> 
> .


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis

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