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  HTTP Proxy Larry Martin <ldmkolxm@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 18:30 +0200
    Re: HTTP Proxy Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-27 18:40 +0200
    Re: HTTP Proxy Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2022-04-27 18:40 +0200
    Re: HTTP Proxy Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2022-04-27 18:50 +0200
      Re: HTTP Proxy Larry Martin <ldmkolxm@gmail.com> - 2022-04-27 20:10 +0200
        Re: HTTP Proxy gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2022-04-27 20:30 +0200
          Re: HTTP Proxy David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-04-27 22:20 +0200
    Re: HTTP Proxy Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> - 2022-04-28 06:40 +0200
      Re: HTTP Proxy Larry Martin <ldmkolxm@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 12:50 +0200
        Re: HTTP Proxy Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-04-28 13:00 +0200

#247648 — HTTP Proxy

I am installing Debian 11 from a single CD.  My plan was to complete the install via the internet.  
I am using my home router IP address 192.168.1.0 device number 45.  
However I have no idea about what to specify as an HTTP proxy.  
I have tried a couple of options but when Debian tries to connect it fails.
Communications is my weak point, so basic advice would be appreciated.

Larry

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#247650

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 12:23:12PM -0400, Larry Martin wrote:
> I am installing Debian 11 from a single CD.  My plan was to complete the install via the internet.  
> I am using my home router IP address 192.168.1.0 device number 45.  

I have no idea what "device number 45" means here.

> However I have no idea about what to specify as an HTTP proxy.  
> I have tried a couple of options but when Debian tries to connect it fails.
> Communications is my weak point, so basic advice would be appreciated.

Try without any kind of HTTP proxy first.  Most routers do not offer
an HTTP proxy.  If you haven't set one up yourself, and if you aren't
part of a company that has set one up, and you don't live in China
where the government has set one up, things should just work.

Even if you can't manage to get Internet connectivity during the
installation, you may still be able to install things using apt (or
similar commands) after the installation has finished.

If things don't work out, you'll need to provide more detail.  Are you
using ethernet, or wireless?  Which "single CD" image did you use --
the official netinst one, or the netinst with non-free firmware?  Some
network interfaces will require non-free firmware to work.  Adding
that to your system post-installation is possible, but it will require
some legwork.

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#247651

On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 12:23:12 -0400, Larry Martin wrote:

> I am installing Debian 11 from a single CD.  My plan was to complete the install via the internet.  
> I am using my home router IP address 192.168.1.0 device number 45.  
> However I have no idea about what to specify as an HTTP proxy.  
> I have tried a couple of options but when Debian tries to connect it fails.
> Communications is my weak point, so basic advice would be appreciated.

I have always left the answer to that question as blank. Are you sure
you need a proxy?

-- 
Brian.

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#247652

Larry Martin wrote: 
> I am installing Debian 11 from a single CD.  My plan was to complete the install via the internet.  
> I am using my home router IP address 192.168.1.0 device number 45.  
> However I have no idea about what to specify as an HTTP proxy.  
> I have tried a couple of options but when Debian tries to connect it fails.
> Communications is my weak point, so basic advice would be appreciated.


You almost certainly do not need an HTTP proxy. Leave it blank.

-dsr-

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#247656

Dan,

Thank you.  That makes perfect sense.

> On Apr 27, 2022, at 2:02 PM, Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
> 
> Larry Martin wrote: 
>> Dan,
>> 
>> Thank you for the prompt reply.  I am still having problems.  I enter my IP address as 192.168.1.45 and all appears to go ok.
>> When it gets to the point of connecting to a mirror site it fails.  I have left the proxy blank.  Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> Hi, Larry.
> 
> The etiquette on open source user mailing lists is to always
> reply to the list, optionally copying the respondent. This is
> for several reasons:
> 
> - many people will see your reply and be able to help, not just
>  one
> 
> - many people in the future will see the archive and thus be
>  helped in turn
> 
> - it doesn't presume that the person who answered your question
>  is going to take responsibility for solving your whole
>  problem. We're not paid, we're your fellow users.
> 
> 
> -dsr-

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#247658

On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 14:04:43 EDT Larry Martin wrote:
> Dan,
> 
> Thank you.  That makes perfect sense.
> 
> > On Apr 27, 2022, at 2:02 PM, Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Larry Martin wrote:
> >> Dan,
> >> 
> >> Thank you for the prompt reply.  I am still having problems.  I
> >> enter my IP address as 192.168.1.45 and all appears to go ok. When
> >> it gets to the point of connecting to a mirror site it fails.  I
> >> have left the proxy blank.  Any suggestions?> 

That address will not go thru a router, it is an assigned private block 
(192.168.xx.zz) that you can set up for your home networks, so you will 
need to setup a NAT scheme in the router and let it handle the details. I 
do that here for 6 machines full time, and they all have free run of the 
net. And with the router running dd-wrt or one of its ilk, it stands 
guard, allowing nothing coming in that wasn't asked for. And its been 
standng guard here for 20 years now with no penetrators.

> > Hi, Larry.
> > 
> > The etiquette on open source user mailing lists is to always
> > reply to the list, optionally copying the respondent. This is
> > for several reasons:
> > 
> > - many people will see your reply and be able to help, not just
> > 
> >  one
> > 
> > - many people in the future will see the archive and thus be
> > 
> >  helped in turn
> > 
> > - it doesn't presume that the person who answered your question
> > 
> >  is going to take responsibility for solving your whole
> >  problem. We're not paid, we're your fellow users.
> > 
> > -dsr-
> 
> .


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis

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#247668

On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 14:24:51 (-0400), gene heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 April 2022 14:04:43 EDT Larry Martin wrote:

> > >> Thank you for the prompt reply.  I am still having problems.  I
> > >> enter my IP address as 192.168.1.45 and all appears to go ok. When
> > >> it gets to the point of connecting to a mirror site it fails.  I
> > >> have left the proxy blank.  Any suggestions?> 
> 
> That address will not go thru a router, it is an assigned private block 
> (192.168.xx.zz) that you can set up for your home networks, so you will 
> need to setup a NAT scheme in the router and let it handle the details. I 
> do that here for 6 machines full time, and they all have free run of the 
> net. And with the router running dd-wrt or one of its ilk, it stands 
> guard, allowing nothing coming in that wasn't asked for. And its been 
> standng guard here for 20 years now with no penetrators.

>From the OP's original post, I see no evidence that they have
configured an internet connection.

Is the router connected to their computer by ethernet, or wired?
What does   ip a   print? After all, everything up to the proxy
can be installed off the DVD; IIRC the next step is scanning the
Debian mirror, the first involving outside communication.

Notice that I wrote DVD. Question zero might be: CD, or DVD?

Disclaimer: If it's a DVD, then honestly, I'm not familiar with
/exactly/ when you configure the network.

Cheers,
David.

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#247686

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, Larry Martin wrote:

> I am using my home router IP address 192.168.1.0 device number 45.

This doesn't make sense.

Are you sure it's not one of:
192.168.1.1
192.168.1.254
192.168.1.45

(if it's the latter then you do not want to use the same address on the
machine you're installing.)

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#247694

Yes.  I used 192.168.1.45.  I have about given up on the approach and will probably go to the multiple CD version of the install.

Thanks to all.

> On Apr 28, 2022, at 12:30 AM, Tim Woodall <debianuser@woodall.me.uk> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, Larry Martin wrote:
> 
>> I am using my home router IP address 192.168.1.0 device number 45.
> 
> This doesn't make sense.
> 
> Are you sure it's not one of:
> 192.168.1.1
> 192.168.1.254
> 192.168.1.45
> 
> (if it's the latter then you do not want to use the same address on the
> machine you're installing.)
> 

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#247695

> > On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, Larry Martin wrote:
> >> I am using my home router IP address 192.168.1.0 device number 45.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 06:47:20AM -0400, Larry Martin wrote:
> Yes.  I used 192.168.1.45.  I have about given up on the approach and will probably go to the multiple CD version of the install.

I'm still struggling to understand what you're saying here.

Is your router's IP address really 192.168.1.45?  If so, that is highly
unusual.  I've never heard of such a case.  Most consumer routers will
place themselves at *.*.*.1 for whichever network they support, which
is typically one of 10.0.0.* or 192.168.1.*.

So in other words, I would expect your router's IP address to be
192.168.1.1 on this network.  Unless you've got a *very* strange
router, or you've manually reconfigured its address.

Also, does your router provide DHCP service?  All modern consumer routers
do, because basically every device in the world which isn't a Unix
server will expect to be given its address via DHCP.

For purposes of installing your Debian system, you could let it use
DHCP to obtain its address.  If, later on, you want to tie it down to
a specific address, you can configure the router to assign a specific
IP address to the Debian system's MAC address.  Or, alternatively, you
could find an unused block of IP addreses in the DHCP server's address
range, and manually assign one of those to the Debian system.  But
that can wait until installation has finished.

Are you using ethernet (a cable) or wireless networking?

Is this a laptop, or a desktop computer, or something else?  Does it have
a model number?

Finally, please tell us more details about what problem you're actually
seeing.  At what step does the problem occur?  What do you *see*?  Is
there a message?  What does it say?

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