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OT EU-based Cloud Service

Started byByung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>
First post2022-03-18 08:40 +0100
Last post2022-04-16 12:30 +0200
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  OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 08:40 +0100
    Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2022-03-18 09:10 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 09:20 +0100
        Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2022-03-18 10:10 +0100
          Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2022-03-18 10:30 +0100
            Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 11:00 +0100
          Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 10:50 +0100
    Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2022-03-18 13:30 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-03-18 13:50 +0100
        Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 15:50 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2022-03-18 14:00 +0100
        Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 15:40 +0100
          Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service rhkramer@gmail.com - 2022-03-18 16:40 +0100
            Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 17:40 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 15:40 +0100
    Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2022-03-18 15:40 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 16:10 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2022-03-18 16:40 +0100
        Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-18 18:30 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2022-03-18 23:00 +0100
        Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-19 03:40 +0100
    Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-18 19:10 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 21:20 +0100
    Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-04-16 08:30 +0200
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2022-04-16 11:40 +0200
        Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-04-16 12:30 +0200

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#246439

FromByung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>
Date2022-03-19 03:40 +0100
Message-ID<E2xax-2GFT-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#246434
Dear Celejar,

Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> writes:

> (...thanks...)
> FWIW, I use Scaleway's S3-compatible Object Storage (via rclone, from
> the U.S.) to store borg backups online, and it works very well. The
> first 75GB of storage (and transfer) are currently free:
>
> https://www.scaleway.com/en/object-storage/

INDEED, i need cross checking! Thanks for information ^^^

> Celejar

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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#246428

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2022-03-18 19:10 +0100
Message-ID<E2pcZ-2C6z-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#246403

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On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 04:37:28PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> Hellow Debian!
> 
> I'm Linux fan from South Korea. Very much i like Linux / OpenSource
> stuff. And for the first time in my life, i have to plan to try install
> mail server for outbond.

To add one exotic entry, Uberspace [1] looks nice. Granted, it's more
expensive than the Big Ones (e.g. Hetzner), but they look principled
in a good way.

Cheers

[1] https://uberspace.de/en/

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t

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#246430

FromByung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>
Date2022-03-18 21:20 +0100
Message-ID<E2reN-2DgK-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#246428
<tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:

> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 04:37:28PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> Hellow Debian!
>> 
>> I'm Linux fan from South Korea. Very much i like Linux / OpenSource
>> stuff. And for the first time in my life, i have to plan to try install
>> mail server for outbond.
>
> To add one exotic entry, Uberspace [1] looks nice. Granted, it's more
> expensive than the Big Ones (e.g. Hetzner), but they look principled
> in a good way.
>
> Cheers
>
> [1] https://uberspace.de/en/

Hellow Tomás!

Also i'll check it. Thanks for advice and your time ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

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#247281

From황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>
Date2022-04-16 08:30 +0200
Message-ID<EcK6t-94t9-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#246403
(... sorry for late ...)

Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> writes:

> Hellow Debian!
>
> I'm Linux fan from South Korea. Very much i like Linux / OpenSource
> stuff. And for the first time in my life, i have to plan to try install
> mail server for outbond.
>
> For setup outbond server, i'll use Postfix and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. That is
> mandotary. And i'm looking for good place. Particular, Amazon-EC2-like
> Service. Possibly i want to EU-based Cloud service. There is my personal
> reason for EU-based thing.
>
> Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
> i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
> like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
>
> Actually i'm willing to pay about 5€ for the my plan.
>
> Please recommand it, and any comments welcome ^^^
>
> [^^^] EU: European Union

After all, i did get one server located in Frankfurt, Germany. At there
i did install Postfix under Debian 11 Bullseye. The name is
<<yw-1204.doraji.xyz>>. Opening ports are 25, 587 and 2525. The role is
outbound only.

Plus inbound server is at Oregon, USA (Google Compute Engine --
f1-micro). All incoming emails goes to Gmail(soyeomul@gmail.com) by
forwarding.

And i did apply to MTA-STS (RFC8461):
<https://mta-sts.doraji.xyz/.well-known/mta-sts.txt>

Actually, just i wish to setup my email servers. It is my hope in life!

Full setup conf files here:
<https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/-/tree/master/DKIM>

Thanks to all comments here Debian Professional ^^^
Special thanks to Rimuhosting staffs and Alex ^^^

Sincerely, Linux and Gnus fan Byung-Hee from South Korea

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#247286

FromAndy Smith <andy@strugglers.net>
Date2022-04-16 11:40 +0200
Message-ID<EcN4l-969A-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#247281
Hello,

On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 03:22:04PM +0900, 황병희 wrote:
> i did get one server located in Frankfurt, Germany. At there i did
> install Postfix under Debian 11 Bullseye. The name is
> <<yw-1204.doraji.xyz>>. Opening ports are 25, 587 and 2525. The
> role is outbound only.

Do be aware that the netblocks of many cheap cloud services have
poor reputation for sending email to the big players (Google,
Microsoft, Yahoo! etc). At the very least do ensure you have reverse
DNS, SPF, DKIM and DMARC sorted out. I see you've been doing that,
but I just wanted to stress the importance of getting this right,
especially if you are sending from a neighbourhood that costs ~$5/mo
to be in.

> All incoming emails goes to Gmail(soyeomul@gmail.com) by
> forwarding.

If you end up receiving spam and forwarding it in to your gmail
account you are going to have a very bad time.

You may like to join the mailop mailing list to learn about other
mail server best practices, although it is really geared towards
larger scale commercial email operators as opposed to the hobbyist
or personal hoster.

    https://www.mailop.org/

Cheers,
Andy

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#247288

From황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>
Date2022-04-16 12:30 +0200
Message-ID<EcNQJ-96Ej-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#247286
Dear Andy,

Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> writes:

> Hello,
>
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 03:22:04PM +0900, 황병희 wrote:
>> i did get one server located in Frankfurt, Germany. At there i did
>> install Postfix under Debian 11 Bullseye. The name is
>> <<yw-1204.doraji.xyz>>. Opening ports are 25, 587 and 2525. The
>> role is outbound only.
>
> Do be aware that the netblocks of many cheap cloud services have
> poor reputation for sending email to the big players (Google,
> Microsoft, Yahoo! etc). At the very least do ensure you have reverse
> DNS, SPF, DKIM and DMARC sorted out. I see you've been doing that,
> but I just wanted to stress the importance of getting this right,
> especially if you are sending from a neighbourhood that costs ~$5/mo
> to be in.
>
>> All incoming emails goes to Gmail(soyeomul@gmail.com) by
>> forwarding.
>
> If you end up receiving spam and forwarding it in to your gmail
> account you are going to have a very bad time.
>
> You may like to join the mailop mailing list to learn about other
> mail server best practices, although it is really geared towards
> larger scale commercial email operators as opposed to the hobbyist
> or personal hoster.
>
>     https://www.mailop.org/
>
> Cheers,
> Andy

Thank you for your time and your kind advice! And i respect all here
Debian hackers more than mailop users. Even if it is about mail server
things...


Sincerely, Linux and Gnus fan Byung-Hee from South Korea

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