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  OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 08:40 +0100
    Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2022-03-18 09:10 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 09:20 +0100
        Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2022-03-18 10:10 +0100
          Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2022-03-18 10:30 +0100
            Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 11:00 +0100
          Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 10:50 +0100
    Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2022-03-18 13:30 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2022-03-18 13:50 +0100
        Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 15:50 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2022-03-18 14:00 +0100
        Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 15:40 +0100
          Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service rhkramer@gmail.com - 2022-03-18 16:40 +0100
            Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 17:40 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 15:40 +0100
    Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2022-03-18 15:40 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 16:10 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2022-03-18 16:40 +0100
        Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2022-03-18 18:30 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2022-03-18 23:00 +0100
        Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-19 03:40 +0100
    Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-18 19:10 +0100
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Byung-Hee HWANG <soyeomul@doraji.xyz>  - 2022-03-18 21:20 +0100
    Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-04-16 08:30 +0200
      Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2022-04-16 11:40 +0200
        Re: OT EU-based Cloud Service 황병희 <soyeomul@doraji.xyz> - 2022-04-16 12:30 +0200

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#246403 — OT EU-based Cloud Service

Hellow Debian!

I'm Linux fan from South Korea. Very much i like Linux / OpenSource
stuff. And for the first time in my life, i have to plan to try install
mail server for outbond.

For setup outbond server, i'll use Postfix and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. That is
mandotary. And i'm looking for good place. Particular, Amazon-EC2-like
Service. Possibly i want to EU-based Cloud service. There is my personal
reason for EU-based thing.

Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.

Actually i'm willing to pay about 5€ for the my plan.

Please recommand it, and any comments welcome ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee from South Korea

[^^^] EU: European Union

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

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#246404

	Hi.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 04:37:28PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
> i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
> like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
> 
> Actually i'm willing to pay about 5€ for the my plan.

https://hetzner.cloud

German company, a single VPS cost is about 5€ per month.

Reco

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#246407

Dear Reco,

Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> writes:

> 	Hi.
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 04:37:28PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
>> i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
>> like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
>> 
>> Actually i'm willing to pay about 5€ for the my plan.
>
> https://hetzner.cloud
>
> German company, a single VPS cost is about 5€ per month.

Oh Nuremberg! Racing Circuit, fantastic!!

Tonight i will investigate for hetzner(Nuremberg) in Germany.

Thanks Reco ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee from South Korea

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

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#246408

On 18/03/22 21:14, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> https://hetzner.cloud
>>
>> German company, a single VPS cost is about 5€ per month.
> Oh Nuremberg! Racing Circuit, fantastic!!

Um - you might be thinking of Nürburg? Home of the Nürburgring? :-)

Nuremburg has other associations in my mind, but I'm sure it's a fine 
place for a data centre.

Cheers,
Richard

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#246409

Hi,

Richard Hector wrote:
> Um - you might be thinking of Nürburg? Home of the Nürburgring? :-)

Rather
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norisring

Further, Nuernberg is home to SuSE Linux.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#246411

Guten Tag Thomas ^^^

"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Richard Hector wrote:
>> Um - you might be thinking of Nürburg? Home of the Nürburgring? :-)
>
> Rather
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norisring

Oh thanks for other information!

> Further, Nuernberg is home to SuSE Linux.

Wow SuSE also is fame in Linux distro! Still good news!!

> Have a nice day :)
> Thomas

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

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#246410

Dear Richard,

Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> writes:

> On 18/03/22 21:14, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>>> https://hetzner.cloud
>>>
>>> German company, a single VPS cost is about 5€ per month.
>> Oh Nuremberg! Racing Circuit, fantastic!!
>
> Um - you might be thinking of Nürburg? Home of the Nürburgring? :-)
>
> Nuremburg has other associations in my mind, but I'm sure it's a fine
> place for a data centre.

You right, thanks for correction ^^^

> Cheers,
> Richard

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

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#246412

On 18/03/2022 04:37, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
> i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
> like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.

Both Linode (https://www.linode.com) and Digital Ocean 
(https://www.digitalocean.com) have EU datacenters.


-- 
	Pessoas que são boas para arranjar desculpas raramente são
	boas em qualquer outra coisa.
		-- Benjamim Franklin

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
eduardo@kalinowski.com.br

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#246413

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [2022-03-18 09:27:43] wrote:
> On 18/03/2022 04:37, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
>> i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
>> like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
> Both Linode (https://www.linode.com) and Digital Ocean
>  (https://www.digitalocean.com) have EU datacenters.

There's also https://serverius.net/
I don't have first hand knowledge of them, but disroot.org seems happy
to rely on them.


        Stefan

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#246419

Dear Stefan,

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> (...thanks...)
> There's also https://serverius.net/

Wow Netherlands, Venema's homeland! I'll definitely check it!!

> I don't have first hand knowledge of them, but disroot.org seems happy
> to rely on them.
>
>         Stefan

Thanks Stefan ^^^

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

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#246415

On Fri, 2022-03-18 at 09:27 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> On 18/03/2022 04:37, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> > Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
> > i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
> > like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
> 
> Both Linode (https://www.linode.com) and Digital Ocean 
> (https://www.digitalocean.com) have EU datacenters.
> 


YSK, Hertzner, Linode and Digital Ocean all have had and may continue to
have issues with sending emails from their networks.   Discussion of
that is not on-point for this list, but if want to learn more checkout
the MailOP list at:

https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

-Jim P.

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#246418

Dear Jim,

Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> writes:

> On Fri, 2022-03-18 at 09:27 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
>> On 18/03/2022 04:37, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> > Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
>> > i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
>> > like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
>> 
>> Both Linode (https://www.linode.com) and Digital Ocean 
>> (https://www.digitalocean.com) have EU datacenters.
>> 
>
>
> YSK, Hertzner, Linode and Digital Ocean all have had and may continue to
> have issues with sending emails from their networks.

So while outbond mail server testing, i'll keep Google Workspace for
safety.

> Discussion of
> that is not on-point for this list, but if want to learn more checkout
> the MailOP list at:
>
> https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop

Thanks for your kind and technical advice ^^^

> -Jim P.

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

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#246423

On Friday, March 18, 2022 10:39:00 AM Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> So while outbond mail server testing, i'll keep Google Workspace for
> safety.

Just a note on (American) English usage -- I think you are talking about 
sending mail, and we (I think) would more commonly use the word outbound to 
describe that (at least the direction of mail).

Have a good day!

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#246426

Hellow rhkramer!

rhkramer@gmail.com writes:

> On Friday, March 18, 2022 10:39:00 AM Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> So while outbond mail server testing, i'll keep Google Workspace for
>> safety.
>
> Just a note on (American) English usage -- I think you are talking about 
> sending mail, and we (I think) would more commonly use the word outbound to 
> describe that (at least the direction of mail).

Thanks for correction on 'outbond/outbound'. English is still difficult
to me. Thanks again rhkramer ^^^

> Have a good day!

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

-- 
^고맙습니다 _白衣從軍_ 감사합니다_^))//

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#246416

Dear Eduardo,

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> writes:

> On 18/03/2022 04:37, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
>> Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
>> i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
>> like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
>
> Both Linode (https://www.linode.com) and Digital Ocean
> (https://www.digitalocean.com) have EU datacenters.

Also i will check for both services, thanks!

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

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Byung-Hee HWANG (12022-03-18):
> I'm Linux fan from South Korea. Very much i like Linux / OpenSource
> stuff. And for the first time in my life, i have to plan to try install
> mail server for outbond.
> 
> For setup outbond server, i'll use Postfix and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. That is
> mandotary. And i'm looking for good place. Particular, Amazon-EC2-like
> Service. Possibly i want to EU-based Cloud service. There is my personal
> reason for EU-based thing.
> 
> Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
> i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
> like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
> 
> Actually i'm willing to pay about 5€ for the my plan.

In France, the three major host providers are:

https://www.scaleway.com/
https://www.gandi.net/
https://www.ovhcloud.com/

I have a very cheap dedicated server at OVH, it serves its purpose.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

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#246422

Dear Nicolas,

Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> writes:

> Byung-Hee HWANG (12022-03-18):
>> I'm Linux fan from South Korea. Very much i like Linux / OpenSource
>> stuff. And for the first time in my life, i have to plan to try install
>> mail server for outbond.
>> 
>> For setup outbond server, i'll use Postfix and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. That is
>> mandotary. And i'm looking for good place. Particular, Amazon-EC2-like
>> Service. Possibly i want to EU-based Cloud service. There is my personal
>> reason for EU-based thing.
>> 
>> Very long time i did googling for searching EU-based Cloud Service. But
>> i did fail. So i ask here Debian users. Because here Debian users looks
>> like to know good place, EU-based Cloud.
>> 
>> Actually i'm willing to pay about 5€ for the my plan.
>
> In France, the three major host providers are:
>
> https://www.scaleway.com/
> https://www.gandi.net/
> https://www.ovhcloud.com/
>
> I have a very cheap dedicated server at OVH, it serves its purpose.

Both OVH and Gandi, i've heard it a few times from an Ubuntu user. And
your story give me courage. Thanks for good advice ^^^

> Regards,

Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee

-- 
^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

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#246424

On 2022-03-18, Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> wrote:
>
> In France, the three major host providers are:
>
> https://www.scaleway.com/
> https://www.gandi.net/
> https://www.ovhcloud.com/
>
> I have a very cheap dedicated server at OVH, it serves its purpose.

They actually lost some of my shit in the Strasbourg fire (via a
governmental agency), so I'm skeptical; it seemed they kept the backup
in the same building as the original. Thus the whole kit and caboodle
went up in smoke (for any arbitrary definition of caboodle). Or maybe
there was no backup. Or maybe backup not included or something. It all
appeared inconceivable to me *niveau ineptie totale*, but there you go. 

> Regards,
>

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On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 10:37 AM Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:

> On 2022-03-18, Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> wrote:
> >
> > In France, the three major host providers are:
> >
> > https://www.scaleway.com/
> > https://www.gandi.net/
> > https://www.ovhcloud.com/
> >
> > I have a very cheap dedicated server at OVH, it serves its purpose.
>
> They actually lost some of my shit in the Strasbourg fire (via a
> governmental agency), so I'm skeptical; it seemed they kept the backup
> in the same building as the original. Thus the whole kit and caboodle
> went up in smoke (for any arbitrary definition of caboodle). Or maybe
> there was no backup. Or maybe backup not included or something. It all
> appeared inconceivable to me *niveau ineptie totale*, but there you go.
>

Thanks for this, I had not heard of this fire. OVH had already had a major
power disruption in
that data center in 2017. No, they had no offsite sitewide backup this
time, major customers
would have had their own. There was no fire suppression system, but I have
never
worked in a datacenter without one. The airflow was so poor that the entire
datacenter
with 9 employees on duty was engulfed in flames in about 15 minutes.
Looking at the photos, it was just stacked shipping containers.


> > Regards,
> >
>
>
>

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#246434

On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 15:37:09 +0100
Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> wrote:

...

> In France, the three major host providers are:
> 
> https://www.scaleway.com/

FWIW, I use Scaleway's S3-compatible Object Storage (via rclone, from
the U.S.) to store borg backups online, and it works very well. The
first 75GB of storage (and transfer) are currently free:

https://www.scaleway.com/en/object-storage/

Celejar

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