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Firefox ESR EOL

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First post2021-12-09 11:20 +0100
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  Firefox ESR EOL piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-12-09 11:20 +0100
    Re: Firefox ESR EOL Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2021-12-09 14:00 +0100
      Re: Firefox ESR EOL piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-12-09 15:20 +0100
        Re: Firefox ESR EOL Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-12-09 17:40 +0100
          Re: Firefox ESR EOL Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2021-12-09 17:50 +0100
          Re: Firefox ESR EOL Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-12-09 17:50 +0100
            Re: Firefox ESR EOL Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2021-12-09 18:00 +0100
              Re: Firefox ESR EOL Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-12-09 18:30 +0100
                Re: Firefox ESR EOL Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2021-12-09 18:50 +0100
                  Re: Firefox ESR EOL Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-12-09 19:30 +0100
                    Re: Firefox ESR EOL Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2021-12-09 20:00 +0100
        Re: Firefox ESR EOL Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-12-09 18:30 +0100
          Re: Firefox ESR EOL piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-12-09 18:30 +0100
        Re: Firefox ESR EOL piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-12-09 18:30 +0100
          Re: Firefox ESR EOL "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-12-09 21:50 +0100
            Re: Firefox ESR EOL Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-12-09 23:10 +0100
              Re: Firefox ESR EOL piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-12-09 23:20 +0100
                Re: Firefox ESR EOL "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-12-09 23:30 +0100
                  Re: Firefox ESR EOL Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-12-09 23:40 +0100
                Re: Firefox ESR EOL Michael Castellon <castellonmichael@gmail.com> - 2021-12-10 00:00 +0100
                  Re: Firefox ESR EOL Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-12-10 11:50 +0100
            Re: Firefox ESR EOL Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2021-12-09 23:30 +0100
              Re: Firefox ESR EOL Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-12-10 11:00 +0100
                Re: Firefox ESR EOL Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2021-12-18 21:50 +0100
                  Re: Firefox ESR EOL Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-12-18 23:30 +0100
                    Re: Firefox ESR EOL Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-12-19 00:10 +0100
                    Re: Firefox ESR EOL Rainer Dorsch <ml@bokomoko.de> - 2021-12-19 10:30 +0100
                    Re: Firefox ESR EOL Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-12-20 11:00 +0100
                      Re: Firefox ESR EOL Jeremy Ardley <jeremy@ardley.org> - 2021-12-20 11:10 +0100
                        Re: Firefox ESR EOL gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-12-20 12:50 +0100
                          Re: Firefox ESR EOL Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-12-20 15:50 +0100
                            Re: Firefox ESR EOL John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-12-20 17:10 +0100
                            Re: Firefox ESR EOL gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-12-21 00:00 +0100
                          Re: Firefox ESR EOL Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-12-25 12:10 +0100
                            Re: Firefox ESR EOL gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-12-25 18:40 +0100
                        Re: Firefox ESR EOL Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2021-12-20 16:40 +0100
                  Re: Firefox ESR EOL David Newman <dnewman@networktest.com> - 2021-12-18 23:30 +0100
                    Re: Firefox ESR EOL Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-12-19 09:20 +0100
                      Re: Risc-V [OT: Firefox ESR EOL] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-12-19 19:50 +0100
                        Re: Risc-V [OT: Firefox ESR EOL] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-12-20 10:00 +0100
                          Re: Risc-V [OT: Firefox ESR EOL] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-12-25 12:10 +0100
            Re: Firefox ESR EOL Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2021-12-10 00:10 +0100
            Re: Firefox ESR EOL Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2021-12-10 00:10 +0100
            Re: Firefox ESR EOL Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2021-12-10 10:30 +0100
              Re: Firefox ESR EOL Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2021-12-10 11:30 +0100
                Re: Firefox ESR EOL Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-12-10 13:30 +0100
                  Re: Firefox ESR EOL Rainer Dorsch <ml@bokomoko.de> - 2021-12-18 12:40 +0100
                    Re: Firefox ESR EOL Georgi Naplatanov <gosho@oles.biz> - 2021-12-18 20:10 +0100
          Re: Firefox ESR EOL Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-12-10 11:50 +0100
    Re: Firefox ESR EOL Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2021-12-09 14:10 +0100
      Re: Firefox ESR EOL Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2021-12-09 17:20 +0100
      Re: Firefox ESR EOL Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2021-12-09 19:30 +0100
        Re: Firefox ESR EOL Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-12-09 19:50 +0100
          Re: Firefox ESR EOL Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-12-09 20:00 +0100
          Re: Firefox ESR EOL Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2021-12-10 08:00 +0100
        Re: Firefox ESR EOL Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2021-12-10 07:50 +0100
          Re: Firefox ESR EOL Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-12-10 11:30 +0100
    Re: Firefox ESR EOL piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-12-09 18:30 +0100
      Re: Firefox ESR EOL piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-12-09 18:50 +0100
      Re: Firefox ESR EOL Michael Castellon <castellonmichael@gmail.com> - 2021-12-09 22:30 +0100
        Re: Firefox ESR EOL Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-12-09 22:50 +0100
        Re: Firefox ESR EOL Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2021-12-10 01:50 +0100
    Re: Firefox ESR EOL Michael Castellon <castellonmichael@gmail.com> - 2021-12-09 18:30 +0100
    [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-12-10 15:10 +0100
      Re: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution Michael Castellon <castellonmichael@gmail.com> - 2021-12-10 15:50 +0100
      Re: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-12-10 16:40 +0100
        Re: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-12-10 17:00 +0100
          Re: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-12-10 17:00 +0100
    Re: Firefox ESR EOL Kushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net> - 2021-12-21 02:20 +0100
      Re: Firefox ESR EOL piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-12-26 23:20 +0100
        Re: Firefox ESR EOL Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-12-27 09:20 +0100
          Re: Firefox ESR EOL "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-12-27 09:40 +0100
            Re: Firefox ESR EOL Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-12-27 15:30 +0100

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#242846

FromTixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk>
Date2021-12-09 22:50 +0100
Message-ID<DszsB-64x-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242845
On Thu, 2021-12-09 at 16:28 -0500, Michael Castellon wrote:
> all versions:
> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
> 
> version esr:
> wget -O firefox-esr.tar "
> https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest&os=linux64"
> 
> remember, delete cookies, etc:
> rm -r ~/.mozilla

That will delete your profile too, so all your settings, plugins and
bookmarks will be gone!

I just made a backup of ~/.mozilla (just in case) and let the latest
ESR use what was there. Well, it actually created a new profile so I
changed the default to old one and deleted the new one it created.
(Using the URL "about:profiles")

-- 
Tixy

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#242861

FromNate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us>
Date2021-12-10 01:50 +0100
Message-ID<DsCgN-7Kh-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242845

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* On 2021 09 Dec 15:29 -0600, Michael Castellon wrote:
> all versions:
> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
> 
> version esr:
> wget -O firefox-esr.tar "
> https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest&os=linux64"
> 
> remember, delete cookies, etc:
> rm -r ~/.mozilla

I agree with Tixy, this dumps too much.  Of course, a profile and other
stuff can be recovered via Firefox sync to an extent but not certain
customizations such as setting zoom to text only.

I suppose the other question is why?  Over the years I've gone back and
forth between Mozilla provided binaries and Debian installed packages
and have never deleted nor modified ~/.mozilla

Perhaps you intended to remove the cache which is found under
~/.cache/mozilla?  FF will rebuild it automatically when it is missing.

- Nate

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#242821

FromMichael Castellon <castellonmichael@gmail.com>
Date2021-12-09 18:30 +0100
Message-ID<DsvoZ-3HZ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242796

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wget -O firefox.tar "
https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-latest&os=linux64"
tar xf firefox.tar
./firefox/firefox

·info·
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/latest/README.txt

·dependency·
apt install libdbus-glib-1-2

Regards


On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 5:12 AM piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I noticed that Debian Stable uses Firefox ESR 78.15.0, which is final
> update of 78 series. All further updates go to Firefox ESR 91, as
> Mozilla page says:
> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/78.15.0/releasenotes
>
> "Version 78.15.0, first offered to ESR channel users on October 5, 2021
> This is the final planned ESR78 release. Eligible users will be
> automatically updated to the ESR91 release on November 2."
>
> Since 2 November, Firefox 78 is EOL and we all should upgrade. I use
> Debian Bullseye on several of my computers, and they all are on ESR 78.
>
> Firefox 91 should migrate to Stable as soon as possible, otherwise we
> risk unpatched security vulnerabilities being present in Debian Stable,
> there are several of them already.
> https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/firefox-esr
>
> Is there any remedy for this?
>
> --
> With kindest regards, Piotr.
>
> ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/
> ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀
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>

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#242907 — [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution

Frompiorunz <piorunz@gmx.com>
Date2021-12-10 15:10 +0100
Subject[SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution
Message-ID<DsOL0-7nZ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242796
My new manual - put together thanks to you guys here on this mailing
list. Thanks to all of you 😍. Now I run newest Thunderbird, and newest
Firefox ESR, both with firejail just like before. I will wait for Debian
versions to appear, I keep them installed, but I won't hold my breath.
My TB & Fx are safe now, without dozens of security vulnerabilities open.

-----
How to download & maintain new Firefox ESR & Thunderbird (from Mozilla):

Shutdown both TB & Fx. Backup their profiles now:
cp -r .mozilla .mozilla-debian
cp -r .thunderbird .thunderbird-debian

cd /usr/bin
sudo mv thunderbird thunderbird.bak
sudo mv firefox firefox.bak

 From now, Debian ESR versions are unavailable. You can restore them by
moving /usr/bin/firefox.bak to /usr/bin/firefox (and same with
thunderbird) and restoring their old profiles, as older version won't
read profile modified by newer version.

Run instructions below each time there is new upstream version of
Firefox or Thunderbird:
/cd opt
sudo wget -O firefox.tar.bz2
"https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest&os=linux64&lang=en-GB"
sudo tar vxf firefox.tar.bz2
sudo rm firefox.tar.bz2
sudo ln -fs /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/

sudo wget -O thunderbird.tar.bz2
"https://download.mozilla.org/?product=thunderbird-latest&os=linux64&lang=en-GB"
sudo tar vxf thunderbird.tar.bz2
sudo rm thunderbird.tar.bz2
sudo ln -fs /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird /usr/bin/

On first thunderbird launch, run it via "thunderbird -P" instead of
clicking your usual shortcut, because it creates empty profile by
default, you don't need that, you want your old profile selected as
default and loaded each time.

--
With kindest regards, Piotr.

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#242912 — Re: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution

FromMichael Castellon <castellonmichael@gmail.com>
Date2021-12-10 15:50 +0100
SubjectRe: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution
Message-ID<DsPnH-7Bk-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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👊

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 5:49 AM piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> wrote:

> My new manual - put together thanks to you guys here on this mailing
> list. Thanks to all of you 😍. Now I run newest Thunderbird, and newest
> Firefox ESR, both with firejail just like before. I will wait for Debian
> versions to appear, I keep them installed, but I won't hold my breath.
> My TB & Fx are safe now, without dozens of security vulnerabilities open.
>
> -----
> How to download & maintain new Firefox ESR & Thunderbird (from Mozilla):
>
> Shutdown both TB & Fx. Backup their profiles now:
> cp -r .mozilla .mozilla-debian
> cp -r .thunderbird .thunderbird-debian
>
> cd /usr/bin
> sudo mv thunderbird thunderbird.bak
> sudo mv firefox firefox.bak
>
>  From now, Debian ESR versions are unavailable. You can restore them by
> moving /usr/bin/firefox.bak to /usr/bin/firefox (and same with
> thunderbird) and restoring their old profiles, as older version won't
> read profile modified by newer version.
>
> Run instructions below each time there is new upstream version of
> Firefox or Thunderbird:
> /cd opt
> sudo wget -O firefox.tar.bz2
> "
> https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest&os=linux64&lang=en-GB
> "
> sudo tar vxf firefox.tar.bz2
> sudo rm firefox.tar.bz2
> sudo ln -fs /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/
>
> sudo wget -O thunderbird.tar.bz2
> "
> https://download.mozilla.org/?product=thunderbird-latest&os=linux64&lang=en-GB
> "
> sudo tar vxf thunderbird.tar.bz2
> sudo rm thunderbird.tar.bz2
> sudo ln -fs /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird /usr/bin/
>
> On first thunderbird launch, run it via "thunderbird -P" instead of
> clicking your usual shortcut, because it creates empty profile by
> default, you don't need that, you want your old profile selected as
> default and loaded each time.
>
> --
> With kindest regards, Piotr.
>
> ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/
> ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀
>
>

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#242914 — Re: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution

FromTixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk>
Date2021-12-10 16:40 +0100
SubjectRe: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution
Message-ID<DsQa6-86G-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242907
On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 13:48 +0000, piorunz wrote:
[...]
> Run instructions below each time there is new upstream version of
> Firefox or Thunderbird:
> /cd opt
> sudo wget -O firefox.tar.bz2
> "https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest&os=linux64&lang=en-GB"
> sudo tar vxf firefox.tar.bz2
> sudo rm firefox.tar.bz2
> sudo ln -fs /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/

Will Firefox be able to update itself with security updates?
One HowTo on the web I saw said to change permissions of files
extracted from the tarball to allow this, (using chmod 755). Though to
me, it seems that wouldn't help without changing the owner too, which
I've done (to my user). Will see how things go on the next ESR release.

-- 
Tixy

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#242915 — Re: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution

Frompiorunz <piorunz@gmx.com>
Date2021-12-10 17:00 +0100
SubjectRe: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution
Message-ID<DsQjL-8a2-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242914
On 10/12/2021 15:27, Tixy wrote:

> Will Firefox be able to update itself with security updates?
> One HowTo on the web I saw said to change permissions of files
> extracted from the tarball to allow this, (using chmod 755). Though to
> me, it seems that wouldn't help without changing the owner too, which
> I've done (to my user). Will see how things go on the next ESR release.

For me it won't work, as I put these files as root deliberately, and I
run firefox executable in firejail. Firefox cannot modify anything apart
from it's own .mozilla folder and Downloads folder. I am happy to
redownload manually when there is an update from Mozilla.

--
With kindest regards, Piotr.

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#242916 — Re: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution

FromTixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk>
Date2021-12-10 17:00 +0100
SubjectRe: [SOLVED] Firefox + Thunderbird upstream solution
Message-ID<DsQtr-8df-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242915
On Fri, 2021-12-10 at 15:45 +0000, piorunz wrote:
> On 10/12/2021 15:27, Tixy wrote:
> 
> > Will Firefox be able to update itself with security updates?
> > One HowTo on the web I saw said to change permissions of files
> > extracted from the tarball to allow this, (using chmod 755). Though to
> > me, it seems that wouldn't help without changing the owner too, which
> > I've done (to my user). Will see how things go on the next ESR release.
> 
> For me it won't work, as I put these files as root deliberately, and I
> run firefox executable in firejail. Firefox cannot modify anything apart
> from it's own .mozilla folder and Downloads folder. I am happy to
> redownload manually when there is an update from Mozilla.

And I guess Firefox will let you know there's a new version, time will
tell. I mainly wanted to mention this issue in case other people follow
your recipe and don't consider updates. Now they'll know from our
discussion :-)

-- 
Tixy

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#243308

FromKushal Kumaran <kushal@locationd.net>
Date2021-12-21 02:20 +0100
Message-ID<DwBYR-1wD-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242796
On Thu, Dec 09 2021 at 10:12:18 AM, piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I noticed that Debian Stable uses Firefox ESR 78.15.0, which is final
> update of 78 series. All further updates go to Firefox ESR 91, as
> Mozilla page says:
> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/78.15.0/releasenotes
>
> "Version 78.15.0, first offered to ESR channel users on October 5, 2021
> This is the final planned ESR78 release. Eligible users will be
> automatically updated to the ESR91 release on November 2."
>
> Since 2 November, Firefox 78 is EOL and we all should upgrade. I use
> Debian Bullseye on several of my computers, and they all are on ESR 78.
>
> Firefox 91 should migrate to Stable as soon as possible, otherwise we
> risk unpatched security vulnerabilities being present in Debian Stable,
> there are several of them already.
> https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/firefox-esr
>
> Is there any remedy for this?
>

As of a day ago, Firefox 91 is now in stable.  My thanks to the
maintainers of the firefox debian packages and the build toolchains for
working on this.

-- 
regards,
kushal

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#243468

Frompiorunz <piorunz@gmx.com>
Date2021-12-26 23:20 +0100
Message-ID<DyK1X-6dv-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#243308
On 21/12/2021 01:06, Kushal Kumaran wrote:

> As of a day ago, Firefox 91 is now in stable.  My thanks to the
> maintainers of the firefox debian packages and the build toolchains for
> working on this.

I extend my thanks to Debian maintainers also! On both my machines I
have removed Mozilla's ESR binary and all downloaded files, and reverted
back to using Debian's ESR, process was smooth and easy, all my profiles
are working just fine.

Now, I just wait for Thunderbird. I continue to use Thunderbird 91.4.0
from Mozilla, Debian TB is still 78.14.0 which is dangerous and should
not be used. I use mine with firejail which strengthens the security
further.
I still advocate for Debian to send a warning in some form to all TB
users, in Release Notes, Errata, or somewhere... TB in Stable is
vulnerable to security bugs and users should know.

--
With kindest regards, Piotr.

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#243473

FromTixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk>
Date2021-12-27 09:20 +0100
Message-ID<DyToC-3sh-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#243468
On Sun, 2021-12-26 at 22:17 +0000, piorunz wrote:
> On 21/12/2021 01:06, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
> 
> > As of a day ago, Firefox 91 is now in stable.  My thanks to the
> > maintainers of the firefox debian packages and the build toolchains for
> > working on this.
> 
> I extend my thanks to Debian maintainers also! On both my machines I
> have removed Mozilla's ESR binary and all downloaded files, and reverted
> back to using Debian's ESR, process was smooth and easy, all my profiles
> are working just fine.

I've done the same, however graphics acceleration doesn't work for me,
so to avoid screen tearing when watching video, I have had to start
using a Chrome based browser (Vivaldi). Hopefully the Firefox graphics
situation will be fixed at a point before Google removes the APIs ad
blockers and I can continue to enjoy a tear and ad free browsing
experience.

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Tixy

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#243474

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Date2021-12-27 09:40 +0100
Message-ID<DyTHX-3yK-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#243473
On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 08:14:17AM +0000, Tixy wrote:
> On Sun, 2021-12-26 at 22:17 +0000, piorunz wrote:
> > On 21/12/2021 01:06, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
> > 
> > > As of a day ago, Firefox 91 is now in stable.  My thanks to the
> > > maintainers of the firefox debian packages and the build toolchains for
> > > working on this.
> > 
> > I extend my thanks to Debian maintainers also! On both my machines I
> > have removed Mozilla's ESR binary and all downloaded files, and reverted
> > back to using Debian's ESR, process was smooth and easy, all my profiles
> > are working just fine.
> 
> I've done the same, however graphics acceleration doesn't work for me,
> so to avoid screen tearing when watching video, I have had to start
> using a Chrome based browser (Vivaldi). Hopefully the Firefox graphics
> situation will be fixed at a point before Google removes the APIs ad
> blockers and I can continue to enjoy a tear and ad free browsing
> experience.
> 

Hi Tixy,

What's the machine / graphics chipset. Other people are experiencing lockups
occasionally.

All the very best, as ever,

Andrew Cater

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#243477

FromTixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk>
Date2021-12-27 15:30 +0100
Message-ID<DyZaF-6Xh-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#243474
On Mon, 2021-12-27 at 08:39 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 08:14:17AM +0000, Tixy wrote:
> > On Sun, 2021-12-26 at 22:17 +0000, piorunz wrote:
> > > On 21/12/2021 01:06, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
> > > 
> > > > As of a day ago, Firefox 91 is now in stable.  My thanks to the
> > > > maintainers of the firefox debian packages and the build toolchains for
> > > > working on this.
> > > 
> > > I extend my thanks to Debian maintainers also! On both my machines I
> > > have removed Mozilla's ESR binary and all downloaded files, and reverted
> > > back to using Debian's ESR, process was smooth and easy, all my profiles
> > > are working just fine.
> > 
> > I've done the same, however graphics acceleration doesn't work for me,
> > so to avoid screen tearing when watching video, I have had to start
> > using a Chrome based browser (Vivaldi). Hopefully the Firefox graphics
> > situation will be fixed at a point before Google removes the APIs ad
> > blockers and I can continue to enjoy a tear and ad free browsing
> > experience.
> > 
> 
> Hi Tixy,
> 
> What's the machine / graphics chipset. Other people are experiencing lockups
> occasionally.

CPU is Intel i7-9700 and graphics is what's built into that. I'm
running X server not Weyland.

Old ESR Firefox would do acceleration if I went to about:config and set
layers.acceleration.force-enabled = true
That doesn't work on the new ESR Firefox (or the Mozilla binary for
same version).

Vivaldi and Google Chrome happily do tearfree video rendering out of
the box (when running fullscreen). As do media players like VLC.

Kernel messages for graphics driver...

# journalctl | grep i915
Dec 27 07:50:52 computer7 kernel: i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] VT-d active for gfx access
Dec 27 07:50:52 computer7 kernel: i915 0000:00:02.0: vgaarb: deactivate vga console
Dec 27 07:50:52 computer7 kernel: i915 0000:00:02.0: vgaarb: changed VGA decodes: olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=io+mem:owns=io+mem
Dec 27 07:50:52 computer7 kernel: mei_hdcp 0000:00:16.0-b638ab7e-94e2-4ea2-a552-d1c54b627f04: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_hdcp_component_ops [i915])
Dec 27 07:50:52 computer7 kernel: i915 0000:00:02.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_04.bin
Dec 27 07:50:52 computer7 kernel: i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] Finished loading DMC firmware i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_04.bin (v1.4)
Dec 27 07:50:52 computer7 kernel: i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] failed to retrieve link info, disabling eDP
Dec 27 07:50:52 computer7 kernel: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20200917 for 0000:00:02.0 on minor 0
Dec 27 07:50:52 computer7 kernel: snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
Dec 27 07:50:52 computer7 kernel: fbcon: i915drmfb (fb0) is primary device
Dec 27 07:50:53 computer7 kernel: i915 0000:00:02.0: [drm] fb0: i915drmfb frame buffer device

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