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Re: Need Support on Debian10 Kernel Upgrade <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-12-16 16:20 +0100
Re: Need Support on Debian10 Kernel Upgrade David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-12-16 17:10 +0100
Re: Need Support on Debian10 Kernel Upgrade Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2021-12-16 18:10 +0100
Re: Need Support on Debian10 Kernel Upgrade Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-12-18 12:40 +0100
Re: Need Support on Debian10 Kernel Upgrade Keith Christian <keith1christian@gmail.com> - 2021-12-18 14:50 +0100
Re: Need Support on Debian10 Kernel Upgrade David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-01-03 04:10 +0100
Re: Need Support on Debian10 Kernel Upgrade Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2022-01-11 13:10 +0100
Re: Need Support on Debian10 Kernel Upgrade Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-12-18 11:50 +0100
| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2021-12-16 16:20 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Need Support on Debian10 Kernel Upgrade |
| Message-ID | <Dv0I1-5FV-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 12:28:17PM +0000, Balasubramanian Ravuthan wrote: > Hi Team, > > We are looking support from you on the Linux Kernel upgrade on Debian 10. Please help on this. This is a user's list, not a support channel. If you have concrete questions, you can pose them here. Chances are good that some experienced users can help you. Note that this is all voluntary work. There are companies out there offering commercial Debian support. I'm sure a web search will turn up a couple of good candidates. Cheers -- tomás
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2021-12-16 17:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <Dv1ut-6dh-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243170 |
On Thu 16 Dec 2021 at 16:12:37 (+0100), tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 12:28:17PM +0000, Balasubramanian Ravuthan wrote: > > Hi Team, > > > > We are looking support from you on the Linux Kernel upgrade on Debian 10. Please help on this. > > This is a user's list, not a support channel. > > If you have concrete questions, you can pose them here. Chances are good > that some experienced users can help you. Note that this is all > voluntary work. > > There are companies out there offering commercial Debian support. I'm > sure a web search will turn up a couple of good candidates. Anyone think it ironic that a multinational IT company with a market capitalisation of $50 billion as of September 2021 comes here for help on upgrading the kernel on an old Debian system? Cheers, David.
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| From | Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-12-16 18:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <Dv2qv-6Nx-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243176 |
On 12/16/21, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu 16 Dec 2021 at 16:12:37 (+0100), tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 12:28:17PM +0000, Balasubramanian Ravuthan wrote: >> > Hi Team, >> > >> > We are looking support from you on the Linux Kernel upgrade on Debian >> > 10. Please help on this. >> >> This is a user's list, not a support channel. >> >> If you have concrete questions, you can pose them here. Chances are good >> that some experienced users can help you. Note that this is all >> voluntary work. >> >> There are companies out there offering commercial Debian support. I'm >> sure a web search will turn up a couple of good candidates. > > Anyone think it ironic that a multinational IT company with a > market capitalisation of $50 billion as of September 2021 comes > here for help on upgrading the kernel on an old Debian system? Sounds like something I'd say (and actually have in the past). I didn't go to the length you did regarding research, but I did notice it had a style similar to something else in the last week or so.... something that... just didn't "sit quite right" from start to finish. Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with birdseed *
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| From | Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-12-18 12:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DvGee-86P-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243176 |
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On Jo, 16 dec 21, 09:53:33, David Wright wrote: > > Anyone think it ironic that a multinational IT company with a > market capitalisation of $50 billion as of September 2021 comes > here for help on upgrading the kernel on an old Debian system? Many questions on this list originate from businesses using Debian internally. Are you suggesting this shouldn't be allowed and/or that support should only be provided for businesses below a certain size? (ignoring for a moment that this would be impossible to implement with open posting / subscribing / list archives) Free(dom) Software was never meant to exclude comercial use or developers earning a living (or a fortune) from it. In fact a non-commercial clause in the license would make a software non-free according to Debian's DFSG and other similar Free Software definitions. As far as I can tell the Debian Project is actually quite proud of Pixar having used Debian internally, so much so that all the code names are still inspired by Toy Story characters. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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| From | Keith Christian <keith1christian@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-12-18 14:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DvIg1-XX-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243232 |
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On Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 04:37 Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote: > Free(dom) Software was never meant to exclude comercial use or > developers earning a living (or a fortune) from it. > > > Agreed,.Andrei! > >
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2022-01-03 04:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DBlTr-2XL-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243232 |
On Sat 18 Dec 2021 at 12:36:49 (+0100), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 16 dec 21, 09:53:33, David Wright wrote: > > > > Anyone think it ironic that a multinational IT company with a > > market capitalisation of $50 billion as of September 2021 comes > > here for help on upgrading the kernel on an old Debian system? > > Many questions on this list originate from businesses using Debian > internally. > > Are you suggesting this shouldn't be allowed and/or that support should > only be provided for businesses below a certain size? No, neither was suggested by me, but I'm guessing by this reply that you don't see any irony. > (ignoring for a moment that this would be impossible to implement with > open posting / subscribing / list archives) > > Free(dom) Software was never meant to exclude comercial use or > developers earning a living (or a fortune) from it. > > In fact a non-commercial clause in the license would make a software > non-free according to Debian's DFSG and other similar Free Software > definitions. > > As far as I can tell the Debian Project is actually quite proud of Pixar > having used Debian internally, so much so that all the code names are > still inspired by Toy Story characters. Hmm. The first release in June 1996 was already named buzz, yet two months earlier Bruce commented: "Pixar isn't really interested in Linux¹ yet - I will try to change this in the next year or so - I don't know if I will get anywhere" and also: "I find myself wishing that my systems at Pixar ran Debian Linux …". I think he was proud of the number of companies who /were/ using Debian, commenting: "other users just as impressive, but I don't have the space to list them all." ¹ let alone Debian. Cheers, David.
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| From | Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-01-11 13:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DEo8p-2om-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243611 |
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On Du, 02 ian 22, 20:59:45, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 18 Dec 2021 at 12:36:49 (+0100), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 16 dec 21, 09:53:33, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > Anyone think it ironic that a multinational IT company with a > > > market capitalisation of $50 billion as of September 2021 comes > > > here for help on upgrading the kernel on an old Debian system? > > > > Many questions on this list originate from businesses using Debian > > internally. > > > > Are you suggesting this shouldn't be allowed and/or that support should > > only be provided for businesses below a certain size? > > No, neither was suggested by me, but I'm guessing by this reply > that you don't see any irony. Indeed, at first I probably completely misinterpreted your message. Having worked in big / bigger companies for the past 18 years it's possible some of the absurdities of big organisations have (unfortunately) become too "normal" for me. Rule nr. 6 probably applies here as well ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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| From | Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-12-18 11:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DvFrP-7uG-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243170 |
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On Jo, 16 dec 21, 16:12:37, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 12:28:17PM +0000, Balasubramanian Ravuthan wrote:
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > We are looking support from you on the Linux Kernel upgrade on Debian 10. Please help on this.
>
> This is a user's list, not a support channel.
Debian's website specifically mentions it as such ;)
From https://www.debian.org/support
For user support in English, please contact the debian-user mailing
list.
(it also clearly specifies at the top of the page that it's run by
volunteers and there are other - including paid - options).
Kind regards,
Andrei
--
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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