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How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

Started bysteve <dlist@bluewin.ch>
First post2021-11-24 10:00 +0100
Last post2021-11-25 07:40 +0100
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  How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external  device? steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2021-11-24 10:00 +0100
    Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an  external device? Keith Bainbridge <keithrbaugroups@gmail.com> - 2021-11-24 10:30 +0100
      Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an  external device? steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2021-11-25 09:30 +0100
        Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an  external device? Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-11-25 11:50 +0100
          [SOLVED] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of  an external device? steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2021-11-25 14:50 +0100
          Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a  specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-26 18:40 +0100
            Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-11-26 19:20 +0100
              tofu - was -Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT  automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2021-11-26 20:40 +0100
                Re: tofu - was -Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT  automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-11-26 21:00 +0100
                Re: tofu - was -Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT  automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-26 21:40 +0100
            Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-11-27 01:40 +0100
              Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 03:00 +0100
            Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2021-11-27 02:00 +0100
              Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount          a specific partition of an external device? Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2021-11-27 23:50 +0100
                Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 03:00 +0100
              Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 03:10 +0100
                Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-11-28 03:30 +0100
                  Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 04:40 +0100
                    Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-11-28 05:00 +0100
                      Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 18:40 +0100
                        Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-11-28 19:40 +0100
                          Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 20:50 +0100
                            Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-11-28 21:20 +0100
                              Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 21:50 +0100
                                Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-11-28 22:20 +0100
                      Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-11-28 20:00 +0100
                    Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-11-28 12:40 +0100
                Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2021-11-28 16:50 +0100
                  Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-11-28 17:00 +0100
            Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? "Sijmen J. Mulder" <ik@sjmulder.nl> - 2021-11-27 12:40 +0100
              Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-11-27 14:30 +0100
                Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 03:00 +0100
                  Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-11-28 04:10 +0100
                    Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 04:50 +0100
                Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-11-28 06:00 +0100
                  Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 18:50 +0100
              Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 00:30 +0100
        Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an  external device? l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2021-12-01 09:30 +0100
          Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an  external device? steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2021-12-01 09:40 +0100
    Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an  external device? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-11-24 18:10 +0100
      Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an  external device? steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2021-11-25 07:40 +0100

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#242479 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromJohn Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date2021-11-28 19:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<DoxfI-7oi-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242475
I wrote:
> Do you have the "fonts-recommended" package installed?

Celejar writes:
> No, I had never heard of it. Do you?

Yes.

> No, I had never heard of it. Do you? No package depends on [it]...

True.

> ...or even "recommends" that one...

How do you know?
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#242491 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-28 20:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<Doyls-81D-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242479
On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 12:38:19 -0600
John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

> I wrote:
> > Do you have the "fonts-recommended" package installed?
> 
> Celejar writes:
> > No, I had never heard of it. Do you?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > No, I had never heard of it. Do you? No package depends on [it]...
> 
> True.
> 
> > ...or even "recommends" that one...
> 
> How do you know?

$ apt-cache rdepends fonts-recommended 
fonts-recommended
Reverse Depends:

Celejar

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#242493 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromJohn Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date2021-11-28 21:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<DoyOt-8qM-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242491
Celejar writes:
> ...or even "recommends" that one...

I wrote:
> How do you know?

Celejar writes:
> $ apt-cache rdepends fonts-recommended 
> fonts-recommended
> Reverse Depends:

That doesn't show recommends.
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#242495 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-28 21:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<Dozhw-90-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242493
On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 14:11:27 -0600
John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

> Celejar writes:
> > ...or even "recommends" that one...
> 
> I wrote:
> > How do you know?
> 
> Celejar writes:
> > $ apt-cache rdepends fonts-recommended 
> > fonts-recommended
> > Reverse Depends:
> 
> That doesn't show recommends.

Yes, it does. From the man page:

--no-pre-depends, --no-depends, --no-recommends, --no-suggests, --no-conflicts, --no-breaks, --no-replaces, --no-enhances
           Per default the depends and rdepends print all dependencies. This can be tweaked with these flags which will omit the specified
           dependency type. Configuration Item: APT::Cache::ShowDependencyType e.g.  APT::Cache::ShowRecommends.

Celejar

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#242499 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2021-11-28 22:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<DozKy-xW-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242495
On Sun 28 Nov 2021 at 15:43:52 (-0500), Celejar wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 14:11:27 -0600 John Hasler wrote:
> > Celejar writes:
> > > ...or even "recommends" that one...
> > 
> > I wrote:
> > > How do you know?
> > 
> > Celejar writes:
> > > $ apt-cache rdepends fonts-recommended 
> > > fonts-recommended
> > > Reverse Depends:
> > 
> > That doesn't show recommends.
> 
> Yes, it does. From the man page:
> 
> --no-pre-depends, --no-depends, --no-recommends, --no-suggests, --no-conflicts, --no-breaks, --no-replaces, --no-enhances
>            Per default the depends and rdepends print all dependencies. This can be tweaked with these flags which will omit the specified
>            dependency type. Configuration Item: APT::Cache::ShowDependencyType e.g.  APT::Cache::ShowRecommends.

I wouldn't even need a Suggestion to install such a meta-package.
Anything to reduce the size of this line out of my "basic packages" list:

apt-get -y install fonts-lyx fonts-ricty-diminished texlive-font-utils fonts-rufscript fonts-yanone-kaffeesatz xfonts-efont-unicode-ib fonts-humor-sans fonts-3270 fonts-cantarell fonts-gfs-didot-classic fonts-ecolier-court ttf-aenigma texlive-fonts-recommended-doc texlive-fonts-extra fonts-oxygen fonts-lobster xfonts-jmk xfonts-terminus-oblique fonts-gfs-baskerville texlive-latex-extra-doc texlive-pictures texlive-fonts-recommended pfb2t1c2pfb fonts-ocr-a fonts-ocr-b texlive-latex-extra preview-latex-style xfonts-75dpi ps2eps fonts-oflb-euterpe ttf-anonymous-pro texlive-fonts-extra-doc fonts-gfs-bodoni-classic fonts-inconsolata xfonts-efont-unicode fonts-hack fonty-rg texlive-pstricks-doc xfonts-terminus texlive-pstricks fonts-ipafont-gothic cm-super-x11 tipa tex-gyre fonts-dkg-handwriting fonts-tiresias fonts-texgyre xfonts-100dpi cm-super tv-fonts texlive-latex-recommended-doc fonts-ecolier-lignes-court fonts-mph-2b-damase fonts-ipafont-mincho xfonts-scalable fonts-ipafont texlive-pictures-doc texlive-latex-recommended fonts-fantasque-sans fonts-liberation2 xfonts-intl-phonetic texlive-extra-utils cm-super-minimal # ttf-denemo # missing

Cheers,
David.

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#242482 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2021-11-28 20:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<Doxz5-7vN-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242460
On Sat 27 Nov 2021 at 21:50:22 (-0600), John Hasler wrote:
> Do you have the "fonts-recommended" package installed?

Obviously I'm doing something wrong (or not doing it),
as I have just installed all the fonts available in
buster that match fonts-recommended/bullseye, including
fonts-noto-color-emoji, and yet:

$ dpkg -l | grep emoji
ii  fonts-noto-color-emoji    0~20180810-1    all    color emoji font from Google
ii  fonts-symbola             2.60-1          all    symbolic font providing emoji characters from Unicode 9.0
$ fc-list noto
$ fc-match noto
DejaVuSans.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
$ 

Nothing changes from my previous post: four monochrome emojis.
(I take Celejar's point, that correct installation and
implementation would cause the first two to combine.)

Cheers,
David.

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#242466 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromThe Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm>
Date2021-11-28 12:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<DoqHg-3u6-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242458

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On 2021-11-27 at 22:36, Celejar wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 21:28:05 -0500
> The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
>> On 2021-11-27 at 21:08, Celejar wrote:

>>> I'm pretty sure Droid Sans Mono Slashed doesn't have the glyphs in
>>> question, and that you must actually have the noto or similar fonts
>>> installed, with some part of the Gnome infrastructure finding them when
>>> you select the glyphs. What does "fc-list | grep noto" show?
>> 
>> If my own system is any guide, that may be an overly broad sort of
>> question.
>> 
>> $ fc-list | wc -l
>>    2479
> 
> Well, I didn't ask for that one.

Yeah - that was just to give a sense of context and scale for the rest.

>> $ fc-list | grep noto | wc -l
>>    1847
> 
> Huh. Our systems must be very different:
> 
> ~$ fc-list | grep noto | wc -l
> 1
> 
> ~$ fc-list | grep noto
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/NotoColorEmoji.ttf: Noto Color Emoji:style=Regular

That'd probably be because you only have one of the fonts-noto-*
packages installed, whereas I have four of them (and we don't have any
overlap).

>> The above is with the following installed package set:
>> 
>> dpkg -l "fonts-noto*" | grep ^ii
>> ii  fonts-noto-core     20201225-1   all          "No Tofu" font
>> families with large Unicode coverage (core)
>> ii  fonts-noto-extra    20201225-1   all          "No Tofu" font
>> families with large Unicode coverage (extra)
>> ii  fonts-noto-mono     20201225-1   all          "No Tofu" monospaced
>> font family with large Unicode coverage
>> ii  fonts-noto-ui-core  20201225-1   all          "No Tofu" font
>> families with large Unicode coverage (UI core)
>> 
>> I don't think I was aware that there are color versions, and I certainly
>> don't think I'd want them.

Going a bit beyond this for more context:

$ apt-file search /usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/ | wc -l
2380

(So my 1847 is about three-fourths of the total, assuming no collisions.
I did also verify that every item in this count is named as being a TTF
file.)

$ apt-file search /usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/ | cut -d ':' -f 1 | uniq
fonts-noto-color-emoji
fonts-noto-core
fonts-noto-extra
fonts-noto-mono
fonts-noto-ui-core
fonts-noto-ui-extra

Per the above, I have four of those installed: core, extra, mono, and
ui-core. By contrast, you appear to have only one installed:
color-emoji, which (according to 'apt-file show') appears to contain
only one font file - the one you reported from fc-list, above.

In my case, I got tired of seeing the "tofu" (without, I think, ever
learning that term), and went out of my way to install fonts to provide
as much coverage as I could manage. I appear to have missed one or two,
but I haven't seen any missing glyphs in rather a while.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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#242469 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromNate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us>
Date2021-11-28 16:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<DouBb-5La-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242454

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* On 2021 27 Nov 20:09 -0600, Celejar wrote:
> I'm pretty sure Droid Sans Mono Slashed doesn't have the glyphs in
> question, and that you must actually have the noto or similar fonts
> installed, with some part of the Gnome infrastructure finding them when
> you select the glyphs. What does "fc-list | grep noto" show?

$ fc-list | grep noto
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/NotoSansMono-Regular.ttf: Noto Sans Mono:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/NotoSansMono-Bold.ttf: Noto Sans Mono:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/NotoMono-Regular.ttf: Noto Mono:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/NotoColorEmoji.ttf: Noto Color Emoji:style=Regular

> If you have the noto fonts installed, try uninstalling them and then
> see if your system can still display the glyphs.

As I don't really care to mess with a working system, perhaps someone
else without the Noto fonts can post their before and after results.

I see that gnome-core depends on gnome-characters which, in turn,
recommends fonts-noto-color-emoji and I have Aptitude configured to
install Recommends automatically.  So here the noto package shows to be
automatically installed so I guess I got the functionality "for free" by
using Gnome.

- Nate

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#242470 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromThe Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm>
Date2021-11-28 17:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<DouKR-5Oy-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242469

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On 2021-11-28 at 10:45, Nate Bargmann wrote:

> * On 2021 27 Nov 20:09 -0600, Celejar wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure Droid Sans Mono Slashed doesn't have the glyphs in
>> question, and that you must actually have the noto or similar fonts
>> installed, with some part of the Gnome infrastructure finding them when
>> you select the glyphs. What does "fc-list | grep noto" show?
> 
> $ fc-list | grep noto
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/NotoSansMono-Regular.ttf: Noto Sans Mono:style=Regular
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/NotoSansMono-Bold.ttf: Noto Sans Mono:style=Bold
> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/NotoMono-Regular.ttf: Noto Mono:style=Regular

These three are from fonts-noto-mono.

> /usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/NotoColorEmoji.ttf: Noto Color Emoji:style=Regular

This one is from fonts-noto-color-emoji.

For comparison, according to a quick naive check I just ran, the
TrueType font-file counts per noto package are as follows:

fonts-noto-core: 268
fonts-noto-extra: 1540
fonts-noto-hinted: 0
fonts-noto-mono: 3
fonts-noto-ui-core: 36
fonts-noto-ui-extra: 532
fonts-noto-unhinted: 0
fonts-noto-cjk: 0
fonts-noto-cjk-extra: 0
fonts-noto-color-emoji: 1

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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#242442 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

From"Sijmen J. Mulder" <ik@sjmulder.nl>
Date2021-11-27 12:40 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<Do4dI-6RY-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242421
Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>:
> I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA
> software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font
> installed, or do they see tofu?

I too use Sylpheed and get tofu. I must have mistakenly assumed emoji
fonts would be installed by default hence this being a Sylpheed
limitation. Thanks for enlightening!

Same issue with Sylpheed on Windows by the way, wonder if the same
solution would work...

Sijmen

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#242444 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromJohn Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date2021-11-27 14:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<Do5W9-7VI-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242442
Celejar writes:
> I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA
> software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font
> installed, or do they see tofu?

I use Gnus.  I've never manually installed any emoji fonts (or any other
fonts) but I see the glyphs, not the tofu.
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#242453 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-28 03:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<DohDY-6kq-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242444
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 07:22:45 -0600
John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

> Celejar writes:
> > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA
> > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font
> > installed, or do they see tofu?
> 
> I use Gnus.  I've never manually installed any emoji fonts (or any other
> fonts) but I see the glyphs, not the tofu.

What does

$ fc-list | grep noto

return?

Celejar

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#242457 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromJohn Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date2021-11-28 04:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<DoiJI-7au-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242453
Celejar writes:
> What does fc-list | grep noto return?

272 lines.

(No need to cc me)
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#242459 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-28 04:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<Dojmq-7tt-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242457
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 21:00:35 -0600
John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

> Celejar writes:
> > What does fc-list | grep noto return?
> 
> 272 lines.

Sorry - see my other message in this thread. So you clearly have the
Noto fonts installed. They're not essential packages, so something you
installed must have brought them in, if you didn't do so manually.

> (No need to cc me)

Sorry, Sylpheed's reply-to-list puts your email address in the CC field
- perhaps because you set an explicit reply-to header? I'll take it out
in the future.

Celejar

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#242461 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2021-11-28 06:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<Doksa-848-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242444
On Sat 27 Nov 2021 at 07:22:45 (-0600), John Hasler wrote:
> Celejar writes:
> > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA
> > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font
> > installed, or do they see tofu?
> 
> I use Gnus.  I've never manually installed any emoji fonts (or any other
> fonts) but I see the glyphs, not the tofu.

Questions like this remind me how little I understand font handling.
I read mail in mutt in xterm in fvwm in X, currently in buster, and
I see four glyphs. If I save the email in a file, then I see the
same glyphs in less etc. The font that I'm using in the xterm is
fonts-hack/fonts-hack-otf/fonts-hack-ttf/fonts-hack-web, whichever
of those is pulled in by   xterm -fa hack -fs 16 ….

If I type  xfd -fa hack, I can only display as far as 0x00feff,
which is far short of all but LOWER RIGHT PENCIL, and even that
glyph is displayed in xfd as an empty box. So it would appear
that something is performing font substitution in the xterm.
Hack is a pretty sparsely populated font AIUI.

A windowed   emacs -fn terminus-18   displays the pencil, and
replaces the others by boxes containing the appropriate hex
codes, 01f471, 01f3fb, and 01f517.

xfd -fn terminus-18   displays the pencil's glyph as ? (and
doesn't display a sufficient range to reach the others).

Running less in   xterm -fn terminus-18, I get a single-width
blank space for the pencil, and double-width ? for the others.

In case it matters, /etc/default/console-setup contains
  CHARMAP="UTF-8"
  CODESET="Uni2"
  FONTFACE="Terminus"
  FONTSIZE="16x32"

A VC displays solid diamonds for all of them.

I do have some noto packages installed (fonts-noto-hinted pulls
in fonts-noto-core, fonts-noto-mono and fonts-noto-ui-core in
buster), but don't know what's in them. When I use xfd on them,
it always displays DejaVu instead, and   fc-list noto
returns nothing. (fonts-recommended is new in bullseye.)

I wrote /four/ glyphs, but it sounds as if Celejar sees three,
the first one being coloured with some sort of skin tone. My
second glyph, 🏻, is a half-tone box with three lines of dots
inside, of 3, 4 and 3 dots.

Cheers,
David.

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#242476 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-28 18:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<Dowtj-6SZ-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242461
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 22:58:58 -0600
David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat 27 Nov 2021 at 07:22:45 (-0600), John Hasler wrote:
> > Celejar writes:
> > > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA
> > > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font
> > > installed, or do they see tofu?
> > 
> > I use Gnus.  I've never manually installed any emoji fonts (or any other
> > fonts) but I see the glyphs, not the tofu.
> 
> Questions like this remind me how little I understand font handling.
> I read mail in mutt in xterm in fvwm in X, currently in buster, and
> I see four glyphs. If I save the email in a file, then I see the

...

> I wrote /four/ glyphs, but it sounds as if Celejar sees three,
> the first one being coloured with some sort of skin tone. My
> second glyph, 🏻, is a half-tone box with three lines of dots
> inside, of 3, 4 and 3 dots.

I assume that the reason I see three and you see four is that the first
one (of my three) consists of a combination of the basic "blond haired
person" glyph plus a "light skin tone" modifier glyph, which are
presumably ideally supposed to be displayed together:

https://emojiterra.com/blond-haired-person-light-skin-tone/

Celejar

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#242449 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-28 00:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<DofiN-55s-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242442
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 12:29:33 +0100
"Sijmen J. Mulder" <ik@sjmulder.nl> wrote:

> Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>:
> > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA
> > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font
> > installed, or do they see tofu?
> 
> I too use Sylpheed and get tofu. I must have mistakenly assumed emoji
> fonts would be installed by default hence this being a Sylpheed
> limitation. Thanks for enlightening!

:)

> Same issue with Sylpheed on Windows by the way, wonder if the same
> solution would work...

You can report back once you try it ;)

> Sijmen

Celejar

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#242564 — Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

Froml0f4r0@tuta.io
Date2021-12-01 09:30 +0100
SubjectRe: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<Dpta1-50-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242388
Hi,

25 nov. 2021, 09:28 de dlist@bluewin.ch:

> Le 24-11-2021, à 20:29:19 +1100, Keith Bainbridge a écrit :
>
>> I use a line in /etc/fstab like this for just this purpose:
>>
>> UUID=      /mount/point/you/want       ext4    defaults,noexec,noauto  0
>> 2
>>
>
> Well, the partition still mounts to /media/steve/Samsung_T5 when plugged in.
> I put this in /etc/fstab:
>
> UUID="ACDE12A6DE1268BA" /media/win_ext vfat     defaults,noexec,noauto 0 2
>
> The logs say:
>
> Nov 25 09:20:30 box ntfs-3g[1133900]: Version 2017.3.23AR.3 integrated FUSE 28
> Nov 25 09:20:30 box ntfs-3g[1133900]: Mounted /dev/sda1 (Read-Write, label "Samsung_T5", NTFS 3.1)
> Nov 25 09:20:30 box udisksd[1098]: Mounted /dev/sda1 at /media/steve/Samsung_T5 on behalf of uid 1000
> Nov 25 09:20:30 box ntfs-3g[1133900]: Cmdline options: rw,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,windows_names,uhelper=udisks2
> Nov 25 09:20:30 box ntfs-3g[1133900]: Mount options: nodev,nosuid,uhelper=udisks2,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,rw,default_permissions,fsname=/dev/sda1,blkdev,blksize=4096
> Nov 25 09:20:30 box ntfs-3g[1133900]: Global ownership and permissions enforced, configuration type 7
>
> It seems like /etc/fstab in not read when plugging in the device.
>

I know you've solved your issue with another way but, just out of curiosity, could the following command help your system to read your modified /etc/fstab file?

systemctl daemon-reload

Sources:
* https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/477794/how-to-force-os-reload-of-fstab/577321
* https://www.systutorials.com/how-to-force-systemd-to-refresh-or-reloaded-a-changed-fstab-on-linux/
* https://www.suse.com/support/kb/doc/?id=000018576


l0f4r0

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#242566 — Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

Fromsteve <dlist@bluewin.ch>
Date2021-12-01 09:40 +0100
SubjectRe: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<DptjI-89-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242564
Le 01-12-2021, à 09:26:00 +0100, l0f4r0@tuta.io a écrit :

>Hi,

Hi, nice to see someone not hijacking my thread :)


>> It seems like /etc/fstab in not read when plugging in the device.
>>
>
>I know you've solved your issue with another way but, just out of
>curiosity, could the following command help your system to read your
>modified /etc/fstab file?
>
>systemctl daemon-reload

Honestly I don't know, I think I issued that command before finding the
solution, but I'm not sure. I think I rebooted the system so that
command most probably was executed without effect.

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#242372 — Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2021-11-24 18:10 +0100
SubjectRe: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<Dn3Wq-3kz-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242361
steve composed on 2021-11-24 09:57 (UTC+0100):

> So is there a way to automatically mount /dev/sdh2 but not /dev/sdh1?
											
Create a LABEL on that FAT partition, then create a noauto by-label fstab entry
for it. Optionally, create a noauto fstab entry using the FAT filesystem's UUID.
Using the LABEL method, you can reuse it on any other sticks you don't want
automounted, as long as you're not going to attach more than one stick with that
label at a time. e.g., make the label NOAUTOMOUNT.
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
	based on faith, not based on science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata

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