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Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

Started byCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca>
First post2021-12-01 07:10 +0100
Last post2021-12-01 09:30 +0100
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  Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a  specific partition of an external device? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2021-12-01 07:10 +0100
    Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount  a specific partition of an external device? Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-12-01 09:30 +0100

#242558 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca>
Date2021-12-01 07:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<DpqYx-7k3-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
On Tue Nov 30 11:54:48 2021 Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land>
wrote:

 > On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:54:16AM -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
 >
 >> Am I the only one who sees the irony in all this?  We're living
 >> in an era where the so-called "woke" generation is taking offence
 >> at every perceived slight or sign of racial or sexual discrimination,
 >> however minor.  Yet these same people are eagerly leaving behind the
 >> originally all-text form of e-mail
 >
 > Since we're talking about my email signature here, this
 > characterisation you've described is meant to be me.  I don't know
 > what *I've* done for you to describe me that way, but at best it's
 > irrelevant to debian-user. It's perjorative, and I would ask that you
 > stop writing perjoratively about me on this mailing list, and go and
 > re-read the Code of Conduct for participating in Debian.

I wasn't aiming it specifically at you, but merely pointing out
some conflicting trends that I've been seeing in society at large.
On re-reading the thread, I realize that I did fly off the handle.
Chalk it up to having read one too many news stories about the
Politically Correct 2.0 bullshit that is going on these days.
As the old netiquette guidelines suggest, one shouldn't post
when tired, drunk, or angry.  (I probably qualified for two
of the three.)

I apologize for having offended you; it was not my intent.

 >> eagerly leaving behind the originally all-text form of e-mail
 >
 > Unicode *is* text, as far as I'm concerned. I don't see the point in
 > limiting what I write to a 7-bit namespace from the 1960s, even if I
 > am fortunate enough that my chosen names are representable in it.

Indeed, I'm an eager adopter of UTF-8 myself.

 > in favour of graphics that are gleefully being used to highlight them.
 >
 > My signature includes an emoji which is configured to be a reasonable
 > approximation of my appearance.

That does sound like fun, even though curmudgeons like me might consider
it frivolous.  I doubt I'll have a hardware/software combination that's
capable of displaying all of it anytime soon - I still see tofu on my
flip phone - but I'm not trying to stop anyone else from having harmless
fun with it.

Again, my apologies.

-- 
cgibbs@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)

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#242563 — Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?

FromJonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land>
Date2021-12-01 09:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device?
Message-ID<Dpta1-50-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#242558
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 09:49:15PM -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> My signature includes an emoji which is configured to be a reasonable
>> approximation of my appearance.
>
>That does sound like fun, even though curmudgeons like me might consider
>it frivolous.  I doubt I'll have a hardware/software combination that's
>capable of displaying all of it anytime soon - I still see tofu on my
>flip phone - but I'm not trying to stop anyone else from having harmless
>fun with it.

I was a little surprised when this side-thread popped up, and I'd
mentally filtered out my signature when reading my own mails. FWIW, the
pencil and anchor render fine for me in my usual mail environment (mutt
in a terminal), but the emoji person and the skin colour swatch are not
combined. They are both individually rendered and in colour, so there's
that. Perhaps one day I'll find that something has changed in the
software stack and they become so! It does render properly via Firefox
in the mailing list archives.

Speaking of colour, I work at Red Hat and I have had 🎩 (U+1F3A9 TOP
HAT) as the shell prompt character for the main RHEL virtual machine I
use for work. At that time, my terminal did not support colour glyphs,
and the font that was used to render that happened to use the Fedora
fedora for that glyph, and I coloured it red using terminal colour
escape codes. Later, IBM bought Red Hat. And at a similar time, I
updated my (Debian) system and gained the ability to display coloured
glyphs. The chosen font to supply that glyph was changed, and my
red-coloured monochrome hat became a blue one. Spooky.

(This whole thing reminded me of a sub-project I have on the backburner
to map the Debian swirl to a spare unicode code-point; or, to U+F000 in
the private use area, where Apple systems display the Apple logo. I got
as far as importing the swirl graphic into a OTF format font.  I should
pick it up!)

>
>Again, my apologies.

No problem. Thank you,

-- 
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

👱🏻	Jonathan Dowland
✎	 jmtd@debian.org
🔗	https://jmtd.net

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