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| Started by | steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> |
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| First post | 2021-11-24 10:00 +0100 |
| Last post | 2021-11-25 07:40 +0100 |
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How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2021-11-24 10:00 +0100
Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Keith Bainbridge <keithrbaugroups@gmail.com> - 2021-11-24 10:30 +0100
Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2021-11-25 09:30 +0100
Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> - 2021-11-25 11:50 +0100
[SOLVED] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2021-11-25 14:50 +0100
Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-26 18:40 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2021-11-26 19:20 +0100
tofu - was -Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2021-11-26 20:40 +0100
Re: tofu - was -Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-11-26 21:00 +0100
Re: tofu - was -Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-26 21:40 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2021-11-27 01:40 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 03:00 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2021-11-27 02:00 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> - 2021-11-27 23:50 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 03:00 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 03:10 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-11-28 03:30 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 04:40 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-11-28 05:00 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 18:40 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-11-28 19:40 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 20:50 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-11-28 21:20 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 21:50 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-11-28 22:20 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-11-28 20:00 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-11-28 12:40 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> - 2021-11-28 16:50 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-11-28 17:00 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? "Sijmen J. Mulder" <ik@sjmulder.nl> - 2021-11-27 12:40 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-11-27 14:30 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 03:00 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2021-11-28 04:10 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 04:50 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-11-28 06:00 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 18:50 +0100
Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 00:30 +0100
Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? l0f4r0@tuta.io - 2021-12-01 09:30 +0100
Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2021-12-01 09:40 +0100
Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-11-24 18:10 +0100
Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> - 2021-11-25 07:40 +0100
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| From | steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> |
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| Date | 2021-11-24 10:00 +0100 |
| Subject | How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DmWie-70m-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Hi, I have an external ssd with two partitions. One is for Windows and the other one is an ext4 partition for data. Every time I plug in this ssd (via usb3), both partitions are mounted automatically. mount command gives: /dev/sdh1 on /media/steve/Samsung_T5 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2) /dev/sdh2 on /media/steve/T5Linux type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,stripe=8191,uhelper=udisks2) I don't need /dev/sdh1 under linux (it's mainly my son's game stuff). I also see sometimes errors in /var/log/syslog related to that partition. So is there a way to automatically mount /dev/sdh2 but not /dev/sdh1? Thanks steve
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| From | Keith Bainbridge <keithrbaugroups@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-24 10:30 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DmWLf-7pd-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242361 |
Steve I use a line in /etc/fstab like this for just this purpose: UUID= /mount/point/you/want ext4 defaults,noexec,noauto 0 2 Rememer to mkdir -p the mount point you want. And it doesn't have to be /media. The noexec means nothing can run from the device - not even root. You may not want that situation All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3216@gmail.com 0447 667 468 On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 09:57:23 +0100 steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I have an external ssd with two partitions. One is for Windows and the >>other one is an ext4 partition for data. >> >>Every time I plug in this ssd (via usb3), both partitions are mounted >>automatically. >> >>mount command gives: >> >>/dev/sdh1 on /media/steve/Samsung_T5 type fuseblk >>(rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2) >>/dev/sdh2 on /media/steve/T5Linux type ext4 >>(rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,stripe=8191,uhelper=udisks2) >> >>I don't need /dev/sdh1 under linux (it's mainly my son's game stuff). >>I also see sometimes errors in /var/log/syslog related to that >>partition. >> >>So is there a way to automatically mount /dev/sdh2 but not /dev/sdh1? >> >>Thanks >> >>steve >> >>
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| From | steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> |
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| Date | 2021-11-25 09:30 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DniiK-3td-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242362 |
Le 24-11-2021, à 20:29:19 +1100, Keith Bainbridge a écrit : >Steve > >I use a line in /etc/fstab like this for just this purpose: > >UUID= /mount/point/you/want ext4 defaults,noexec,noauto 0 >2 Well, the partition still mounts to /media/steve/Samsung_T5 when plugged in. I put this in /etc/fstab: UUID="ACDE12A6DE1268BA" /media/win_ext vfat defaults,noexec,noauto 0 2 The logs say: Nov 25 09:20:30 box ntfs-3g[1133900]: Version 2017.3.23AR.3 integrated FUSE 28 Nov 25 09:20:30 box ntfs-3g[1133900]: Mounted /dev/sda1 (Read-Write, label "Samsung_T5", NTFS 3.1) Nov 25 09:20:30 box udisksd[1098]: Mounted /dev/sda1 at /media/steve/Samsung_T5 on behalf of uid 1000 Nov 25 09:20:30 box ntfs-3g[1133900]: Cmdline options: rw,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,windows_names,uhelper=udisks2 Nov 25 09:20:30 box ntfs-3g[1133900]: Mount options: nodev,nosuid,uhelper=udisks2,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,rw,default_permissions,fsname=/dev/sda1,blkdev,blksize=4096 Nov 25 09:20:30 box ntfs-3g[1133900]: Global ownership and permissions enforced, configuration type 7 It seems like /etc/fstab in not read when plugging in the device. What's wrong? Thanks S
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| From | Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> |
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| Date | 2021-11-25 11:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <Dnkue-4GQ-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242388 |
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 09:28:03AM +0100, steve wrote:
>It seems like /etc/fstab in not read when plugging in the device.
>
>What's wrong?
The thing doing the mounting is udisks (8). Checking that man-page, one
thing you can do to hint udisks to ignore a device is to have udev set a
property UDISKS_IGNORE. So if you can write a udev rule that matches
your device and sets ENV{UDISKS_IGNORE}="1", I think udisks will
ignore it.
--
Please do not CC me for listmail.
👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland
✎ jmtd@debian.org
🔗 https://jmtd.net
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| From | steve <dlist@bluewin.ch> |
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| Date | 2021-11-25 14:50 +0100 |
| Subject | [SOLVED] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <Dnniq-6ma-19@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242395 |
Le 25-11-2021, à 10:43:16 +0000, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
>On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 09:28:03AM +0100, steve wrote:
>>It seems like /etc/fstab in not read when plugging in the device.
>>
>>What's wrong?
>
>The thing doing the mounting is udisks (8). Checking that man-page, one
>thing you can do to hint udisks to ignore a device is to have udev set a
>property UDISKS_IGNORE. So if you can write a udev rule that matches
>your device and sets ENV{UDISKS_IGNORE}="1", I think udisks will
>ignore it.
Ok I got it thanks to you. What I did:
1) created a file (97-ignore-ssd.rules) in /etc/udev/rules.d with the
2) put this line in it
SUBSYSTEM=="block", ENV{ID_FS_UUID}=="ACDE12A6DE1268BA", ENV{UDISKS_IGNORE}="1"
The ENV{ID_FS_UUID} was found with the command
udevadm info /dev/sda1 | grep ID_FS_UUID=
3) Restarted udisks
systemctl restart udisks2.service
4) plugged the device and only the ext4 partition was mounted. Hurray!
Thanks again for the help.
Steve
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| From | Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-26 18:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DnNmx-590-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242395 |
On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:43:16 +0000 Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> wrote: ... > 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland > ✎ jmtd@debian.org > 🔗 https://jmtd.net I finally got tired of seeing tofu for some of the glyphs in your sig, so I looked up their Unicode codepoints: https://www.unicodepedia.com/unicode/miscellaneous-symbols-and-pictographs/1f471/person-with-blond-hair/ https://www.unicodepedia.com/unicode/miscellaneous-symbols-and-pictographs/1f517/link-symbol/ My MUA is Sylpheed, and it would not display those glyphs, regardless of which of my system fonts I selected as the Sylpheed display font. After some more hunting on the web, I installed "Noto Color Emoji" (fonts-noto-color-emoji), and presto, now I see the person with blond hair and the link symbol! I see them even when I don't select that font as the application display font - I guess Sylpheed, or some component of its underlying infrastructure, looks throughout the installed system fonts when there's no glyph for a particular codepoint in the currently selected font? I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font installed, or do they see tofu? Anyway, TIL something fascinating. Now that I have Noto Color Emoji installed, my email is much more colorful and cuter - Sylph apparently wasn't displaying tofu for emojis in email subject lines, and was just ignoring them, and I had no idea what I was missing ;) ... Celejar
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| From | Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2021-11-26 19:20 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DnNZf-5AZ-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242421 |
On Fri, 2021-11-26 at 12:36 -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:43:16 +0000 > Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> wrote: > > ... > > > 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland > > ✎ jmtd@debian.org > > 🔗 https://jmtd.net > [...] > > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font > installed, or do they see tofu? I see the rectangle which is used for missing glyphs, I'm guess that's what you mean by tofu (had to google the term). -- Tixy
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| From | Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> |
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| Date | 2021-11-26 20:40 +0100 |
| Subject | tofu - was -Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DnPeG-6g7-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242422 |
On 27/11/21 2:11 am, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2021-11-26 at 12:36 -0500, Celejar wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:43:16 +0000 >> Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> wrote: >> >> ... >> >>> 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland >>> ✎ jmtd@debian.org >>> 🔗 https://jmtd.net >> > [...] >> >> I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA >> software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font >> installed, or do they see tofu? > > I see the rectangle which is used for missing glyphs, I'm guess that's > what you mean by tofu (had to google the term). > I understood that tofu is rotten soy beans. Is it something else? -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..............
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2021-11-26 21:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: tofu - was -Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DnPy1-6ma-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242423 |
On Sat 27 Nov 2021 at 03:06:01 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 27/11/21 2:11 am, Tixy wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-11-26 at 12:36 -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:43:16 +0000 > > > Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland > > > > ✎ jmtd@debian.org > > > > 🔗 https://jmtd.net > > > > > [...] > > > > > > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA > > > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font > > > installed, or do they see tofu? > > > > I see the rectangle which is used for missing glyphs, I'm guess that's > > what you mean by tofu (had to google the term). > > > > I understood that tofu is rotten soy beans. > > Is it something else? No. You are spot on. Thank you for your thouhtful and enligtening contribution, -- Brian.
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| From | Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-26 21:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: tofu - was -Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DnQaJ-6NA-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242423 |
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 03:06:01 +0800 Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> wrote: > On 27/11/21 2:11 am, Tixy wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-11-26 at 12:36 -0500, Celejar wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:43:16 +0000 > >> Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> wrote: > >> > >> ... > >> > >>> 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland > >>> ✎ jmtd@debian.org > >>> 🔗 https://jmtd.net > >> > > [...] > >> > >> I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA > >> software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font > >> installed, or do they see tofu? > > > > I see the rectangle which is used for missing glyphs, I'm guess that's > > what you mean by tofu (had to google the term). > > > > I understood that tofu is rotten soy beans. > > Is it something else? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noto_fonts#Etymology Celejar
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| From | Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> |
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| Date | 2021-11-27 01:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DnTV0-CR-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242421 |
Hi, On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:36:04 -0500 Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote: (...) > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font > installed, or do they see tofu? no idea what "most users" do; I am actually using sylpheed too, and I too have these "emoji fonts" installed. Makes life easier sometimes, when people use emoijis as a means of communication and just assume that you are able to have them displayed. Have a nice day :-) Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. What kind of love is that? Not to be loved; never to have shown love. -- Commissioner Nancy Hedford, "Metamorphosis", stardate 3219.8
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| From | Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-28 03:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DohDY-6kq-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242434 |
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 01:32:51 +0100 Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 12:36:04 -0500 > Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> wrote: > > (...) > > I'm curious: do most users of Debian on the desktop (who use MUA > > software, as opposed to webmail via a browser) have such a font > > installed, or do they see tofu? > > no idea what "most users" do; I am actually using sylpheed too, and I too > have these "emoji fonts" installed. Makes life easier sometimes, when > people use emoijis as a means of communication and just assume that you > are able to have them displayed. Makes sense. And my emails are now certainly more colorful ;) > Have a nice day :-) Celejar
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| From | Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> |
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| Date | 2021-11-27 02:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DnUel-J6-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242421 |
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* On 2021 26 Nov 11:36 -0600, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:43:16 +0000 > Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> wrote: > > ... > > > 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland > > ✎ jmtd@debian.org > > 🔗 https://jmtd.net > > I finally got tired of seeing tofu for some of the glyphs in your sig, > so I looked up their Unicode codepoints: Interestingly, I see the glyphs in Mutt running in Gnome Terminal and in Vim as I edit this in the same Gnome Terminal. My font is one installed locally, Droid Sans Mono Slashed which provides the zero character with a slash. I know that there is keyboard sequence in Gnome Terminal (Ctl-Shift-E then Space) to bring up a menu to select Unicode glyphs. 🐮 - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819
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| From | Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> |
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| Date | 2021-11-27 23:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DoeG5-4D6-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242435 |
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Nate Bargmann writes: > * On 2021 26 Nov 11:36 -0600, Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:43:16 +0000 > > Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland > > > ✎ jmtd@debian.org > > > 🔗 https://jmtd.net > > > > I finally got tired of seeing tofu for some of the glyphs in your sig, > > so I looked up their Unicode codepoints: > > Interestingly, I see the glyphs in Mutt running in Gnome Terminal and in > Vim as I edit this in the same Gnome Terminal. My font is one > installed locally, Droid Sans Mono Slashed which provides the zero > character with a slash. > > I know that there is keyboard sequence in Gnome Terminal (Ctl-Shift-E > then Space) to bring up a menu to select Unicode glyphs. > > 🐮 > > - Nate I use the cone e-mail client in rxvt-unicode with the Terminus bitmap font and I see only the icon next to `jmtd@debian.org`. Apart from that, the first line of the signature has two squares, the third line one and the post by Nate has a single square, too. I can view the glyphs correctly by saving the mail as text file and opening it with mousepad. `aptitude search ~inoto` returns the following here: | idA fonts-noto-color-emoji - color emoji font from Google | i A fonts-noto-core - "No Tofu" font families with large | i A fonts-noto-extra - "No Tofu" font families with large | i A fonts-noto-mono - "No Tofu" monospaced font family wi | i A fonts-noto-ui-core I am pretty fine with _not_ seeing the correct glyphs by default given that I do not want fancy colorful icons in my terminals anyway :) YMMV Linux-Fan öö [...]
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| From | Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-28 03:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DohDX-6kq-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242448 |
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 23:41:37 +0100 Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> wrote: > Nate Bargmann writes: > > > * On 2021 26 Nov 11:36 -0600, Celejar wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:43:16 +0000 > > > Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland > > > > ✎ jmtd@debian.org > > > > 🔗 https://jmtd.net > > > > > > I finally got tired of seeing tofu for some of the glyphs in your sig, > > > so I looked up their Unicode codepoints: > > > > Interestingly, I see the glyphs in Mutt running in Gnome Terminal and in > > Vim as I edit this in the same Gnome Terminal. My font is one > > installed locally, Droid Sans Mono Slashed which provides the zero > > character with a slash. > > > > I know that there is keyboard sequence in Gnome Terminal (Ctl-Shift-E > > then Space) to bring up a menu to select Unicode glyphs. > > > > 🐮 > > > > - Nate > > I use the cone e-mail client in rxvt-unicode with the Terminus bitmap font > and I see only the icon next to `jmtd@debian.org`. Apart from that, the Yes, that one seems to be included in "normal" system fonts - I, too, saw it before I installed the noto fonts. > first line of the signature has two squares, the third line one and the post The two squares is apparently because the "person with blond hair" has a "light skin tone" modifier: https://emojipedia.org/person-light-skin-tone-blond-hair/ > by Nate has a single square, too. > > I can view the glyphs correctly by saving the mail as text file and opening > it with mousepad. `aptitude search ~inoto` returns the following here: > > | idA fonts-noto-color-emoji - color emoji font from Google > | i A fonts-noto-core - "No Tofu" font families with large > | i A fonts-noto-extra - "No Tofu" font families with large > | i A fonts-noto-mono - "No Tofu" monospaced font family wi > | i A fonts-noto-ui-core Okay, so when mousepad is showing the glyphs, it's presumably using the noto fonts. > I am pretty fine with _not_ seeing the correct glyphs by default given that > I do not want fancy colorful icons in my terminals anyway :) :/ Celejar
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| From | Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-28 03:10 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DohND-6CQ-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242435 |
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:50:29 -0600 Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> wrote: > * On 2021 26 Nov 11:36 -0600, Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 10:43:16 +0000 > > Jonathan Dowland <jon+debian-user@dow.land> wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland > > > ✎ jmtd@debian.org > > > 🔗 https://jmtd.net > > > > I finally got tired of seeing tofu for some of the glyphs in your sig, > > so I looked up their Unicode codepoints: > > Interestingly, I see the glyphs in Mutt running in Gnome Terminal and in > Vim as I edit this in the same Gnome Terminal. My font is one > installed locally, Droid Sans Mono Slashed which provides the zero > character with a slash. > > I know that there is keyboard sequence in Gnome Terminal (Ctl-Shift-E > then Space) to bring up a menu to select Unicode glyphs. > > 🐮 I'm pretty sure Droid Sans Mono Slashed doesn't have the glyphs in question, and that you must actually have the noto or similar fonts installed, with some part of the Gnome infrastructure finding them when you select the glyphs. What does "fc-list | grep noto" show? If you have the noto fonts installed, try uninstalling them and then see if your system can still display the glyphs. Celejar
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| From | The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2021-11-28 03:30 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <Doi70-6IK-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242454 |
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On 2021-11-27 at 21:08, Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:50:29 -0600
> Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> wrote:
>
>> * On 2021 26 Nov 11:36 -0600, Celejar wrote:
>>> I finally got tired of seeing tofu for some of the glyphs in your sig,
>>> so I looked up their Unicode codepoints:
>>
>> Interestingly, I see the glyphs in Mutt running in Gnome Terminal and in
>> Vim as I edit this in the same Gnome Terminal. My font is one
>> installed locally, Droid Sans Mono Slashed which provides the zero
>> character with a slash.
>>
>> I know that there is keyboard sequence in Gnome Terminal (Ctl-Shift-E
>> then Space) to bring up a menu to select Unicode glyphs.
>>
>> 🐮
>
> I'm pretty sure Droid Sans Mono Slashed doesn't have the glyphs in
> question, and that you must actually have the noto or similar fonts
> installed, with some part of the Gnome infrastructure finding them when
> you select the glyphs. What does "fc-list | grep noto" show?
If my own system is any guide, that may be an overly broad sort of
question.
$ fc-list | wc -l
2479
$ fc-list | grep noto | wc -l
1847
$ fc-list | grep -v noto | wc -l
632
Asking for the output of something that produces potentially thousands
of lines may be slightly ill-advised (although asking the user to check
that output and report back might be another story, and now that I look
back it's not entirely clear which of the two you were intending).
The above is with the following installed package set:
dpkg -l "fonts-noto*" | grep ^ii
ii fonts-noto-core 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" font
families with large Unicode coverage (core)
ii fonts-noto-extra 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" font
families with large Unicode coverage (extra)
ii fonts-noto-mono 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" monospaced
font family with large Unicode coverage
ii fonts-noto-ui-core 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" font
families with large Unicode coverage (UI core)
I don't think I was aware that there are color versions, and I certainly
don't think I'd want them.
(FWIW, with this set installed, I see actual glyphs rather than the
"tofu' for each of the four in Jonathan Dowland's .sig - although I
can't actually quite tell what the second one is, even at full
enlargement.)
--
The Wanderer
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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| From | Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-28 04:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DojcJ-7pS-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242456 |
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 21:28:05 -0500 The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> wrote: > On 2021-11-27 at 21:08, Celejar wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 18:50:29 -0600 > > Nate Bargmann <n0nb@n0nb.us> wrote: > > > >> * On 2021 26 Nov 11:36 -0600, Celejar wrote: > > >>> I finally got tired of seeing tofu for some of the glyphs in your sig, > >>> so I looked up their Unicode codepoints: > >> > >> Interestingly, I see the glyphs in Mutt running in Gnome Terminal and in > >> Vim as I edit this in the same Gnome Terminal. My font is one > >> installed locally, Droid Sans Mono Slashed which provides the zero > >> character with a slash. > >> > >> I know that there is keyboard sequence in Gnome Terminal (Ctl-Shift-E > >> then Space) to bring up a menu to select Unicode glyphs. > >> > >> 🐮 > > > > I'm pretty sure Droid Sans Mono Slashed doesn't have the glyphs in > > question, and that you must actually have the noto or similar fonts > > installed, with some part of the Gnome infrastructure finding them when > > you select the glyphs. What does "fc-list | grep noto" show? > > If my own system is any guide, that may be an overly broad sort of > question. > > $ fc-list | wc -l > 2479 Well, I didn't ask for that one. > $ fc-list | grep noto | wc -l > 1847 Huh. Our systems must be very different: ~$ fc-list | grep noto | wc -l 1 ~$ fc-list | grep noto /usr/share/fonts/truetype/noto/NotoColorEmoji.ttf: Noto Color Emoji:style=Regular > $ fc-list | grep -v noto | wc -l > 632 > > Asking for the output of something that produces potentially thousands > of lines may be slightly ill-advised (although asking the user to check > that output and report back might be another story, and now that I look > back it's not entirely clear which of the two you were intending). I confess that it simply didn't occur to me that some systems would be so different from mine. I concede that that may have been a naive assumption ;) > The above is with the following installed package set: > > dpkg -l "fonts-noto*" | grep ^ii > ii fonts-noto-core 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" font > families with large Unicode coverage (core) > ii fonts-noto-extra 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" font > families with large Unicode coverage (extra) > ii fonts-noto-mono 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" monospaced > font family with large Unicode coverage > ii fonts-noto-ui-core 20201225-1 all "No Tofu" font > families with large Unicode coverage (UI core) > > I don't think I was aware that there are color versions, and I certainly > don't think I'd want them. > > (FWIW, with this set installed, I see actual glyphs rather than the > "tofu' for each of the four in Jonathan Dowland's .sig - although I > can't actually quite tell what the second one is, even at full > enlargement.) Celejar
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| From | John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-28 05:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <Dojw6-7wB-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242458 |
Do you have the "fonts-recommended" package installed? -- John Hasler john@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-28 18:40 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Emoji fonts in Debian [WAS:] Re: How to NOT automatically mount a specific partition of an external device? |
| Message-ID | <DowjD-6Pz-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #242460 |
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 21:50:22 -0600 John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote: > Do you have the "fonts-recommended" package installed? No, I had never heard of it. Do you? No package depends on or even "recommends" that one, so I'm not sure how you would have ended up with it insofar as you "never manually installed any emoji fonts (or any other fonts)." Celejar
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