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  Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver lina <lina.lastname@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 11:30 +0100
    Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 12:10 +0100
      Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver lina <lina.lastname@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 14:40 +0100
        Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver lina <lina.lastname@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 15:00 +0100
          Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-11-09 17:30 +0100
            Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-11-09 17:40 +0100
              Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-11-09 18:10 +0100
              Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver lina <lina.lastname@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 09:20 +0100
                Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver Jerome BENOIT <calculus@rezozer.net> - 2021-11-10 10:00 +0100
                Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-11-10 13:30 +0100
                  Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2021-11-10 13:50 +0100
        Re: Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 19:00 +0100

#241961 — Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver

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Hi all,

I am still struggling with the graphic card issue.

# nvidia-detect
Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK208B
[GeForce GT 730] [10de:1287] (rev a1)

Checking card:  NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 730] (rev a1)
Your card is supported by all driver versions.
Your card is also supported by the Tesla 460 drivers series.
Your card is also supported by the Tesla 450 drivers series.
Your card is also supported by the Tesla 418 drivers series.
It is recommended to install the
    nvidia-driver
package.
# dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
glx-alternative-nvidia install
libegl-nvidia0:amd64 install
libgl1-nvidia-glvnd-glx:amd64 install
libgles-nvidia1:amd64 install
libgles-nvidia2:amd64 install
libglx-nvidia0:amd64 install
libnvidia-cbl:amd64 install
libnvidia-cfg1:amd64 install
libnvidia-eglcore:amd64 install
libnvidia-encode1:amd64 install
libnvidia-glcore:amd64 install
libnvidia-glvkspirv:amd64 install
libnvidia-ml1:amd64 install
libnvidia-ptxjitcompiler1:amd64 install
libnvidia-rtcore:amd64 install
nvidia-alternative install
nvidia-detect install
nvidia-driver install
nvidia-driver-bin install
nvidia-driver-libs:amd64 install
nvidia-egl-common install
nvidia-egl-icd:amd64 install
nvidia-installer-cleanup install
nvidia-kernel-common install
nvidia-kernel-dkms install
nvidia-kernel-support install
nvidia-legacy-check install
nvidia-modprobe install
nvidia-persistenced install
nvidia-settings install
nvidia-smi install
nvidia-support install
nvidia-vdpau-driver:amd64 install
nvidia-vulkan-common install
nvidia-vulkan-icd:amd64 install
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia install


Shall I install the nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver

https://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver

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#241963

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On 09.11.2021 15:26, lina wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am still struggling with the graphic card issue.
>
What issue exactly?

> # nvidia-detect
> Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK208B 
> [GeForce GT 730] [10de:1287] (rev a1)
>
> Checking card:  NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 730] (rev a1)
> Your card is supported by all driver versions.
> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 460 drivers series.
> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 450 drivers series.
> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 418 drivers series.
> It is recommended to install the
>     nvidia-driver
> package.
>
Geforce GT 730 is still supported by Nvidia, so you should use recent 
driver, not a legacy one.
     $ sudo apt install nvidia-driver nvidia-driver-bin 
nvidia-driver-libs nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-kernel-support mesa-utils

Check the installation with:
     $ glxinfo -B

> Shall I install the nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver
>
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver 
> <https://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver>
>
>
There is no point in doing that, because 390.xx driver series are 
inferior to the most recent driver available.


-- 
With kindest regards, Alexander.

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#241967

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It seems the drivers are there, my problems are:

1. I can't use gaussian view
2. The Sweet Home 3D Error: Sweet Home 3D will exit now because of a fatal
error in the 3D rendering system of your computer. Please update the
DirectX/OpenGL drivers of your computer graphic card.

Thanks again, lina

# glxinfo -B
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
Memory info (GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info):
    Dedicated video memory: 2048 MB
    Total available memory: 2048 MB
    Currently available dedicated video memory: 1718 MB
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 730/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 460.91.03
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile

OpenGL version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 460.91.03
OpenGL shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL context flags: (none)
OpenGL profile mask: (none)

OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 460.91.03
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20



On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 12:05 PM Alexander V. Makartsev <avbetev@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 09.11.2021 15:26, lina wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am still struggling with the graphic card issue.
>
> What issue exactly?
>
> # nvidia-detect
> Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK208B
> [GeForce GT 730] [10de:1287] (rev a1)
>
> Checking card:  NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 730] (rev a1)
> Your card is supported by all driver versions.
> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 460 drivers series.
> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 450 drivers series.
> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 418 drivers series.
> It is recommended to install the
>     nvidia-driver
> package.
>
> Geforce GT 730 is still supported by Nvidia, so you should use recent
> driver, not a legacy one.
>     $ sudo apt install nvidia-driver nvidia-driver-bin nvidia-driver-libs
> nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-kernel-support mesa-utils
>
> Check the installation with:
>     $ glxinfo -B
>
> Shall I install the nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver
>
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver
>
>
> There is no point in doing that, because 390.xx driver series are inferior
> to the most recent driver available.
>
>
> --
> With kindest regards, Alexander.
>
> ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org
> ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀
>
>

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#241968

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Can I have a system with both X-session and the nvidia-driver
as gaussian view requires

Gaussview must be run in an X-windows session. Details for controlling the
application are provided in the materials found in the Resources section.

Thanks,

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 2:23 PM lina <lina.lastname@gmail.com> wrote:

> It seems the drivers are there, my problems are:
>
> 1. I can't use gaussian view
> 2. The Sweet Home 3D Error: Sweet Home 3D will exit now because of a fatal
> error in the 3D rendering system of your computer. Please update the
> DirectX/OpenGL drivers of your computer graphic card.
>
> Thanks again, lina
>
> # glxinfo -B
> name of display: :0.0
> display: :0  screen: 0
> direct rendering: Yes
> Memory info (GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info):
>     Dedicated video memory: 2048 MB
>     Total available memory: 2048 MB
>     Currently available dedicated video memory: 1718 MB
> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 730/PCIe/SSE2
> OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 460.91.03
> OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
> OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
> OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile
>
> OpenGL version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 460.91.03
> OpenGL shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
> OpenGL context flags: (none)
> OpenGL profile mask: (none)
>
> OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 460.91.03
> OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 12:05 PM Alexander V. Makartsev <avbetev@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 09.11.2021 15:26, lina wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am still struggling with the graphic card issue.
>>
>> What issue exactly?
>>
>> # nvidia-detect
>> Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK208B
>> [GeForce GT 730] [10de:1287] (rev a1)
>>
>> Checking card:  NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 730] (rev a1)
>> Your card is supported by all driver versions.
>> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 460 drivers series.
>> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 450 drivers series.
>> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 418 drivers series.
>> It is recommended to install the
>>     nvidia-driver
>> package.
>>
>> Geforce GT 730 is still supported by Nvidia, so you should use recent
>> driver, not a legacy one.
>>     $ sudo apt install nvidia-driver nvidia-driver-bin nvidia-driver-libs
>> nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-kernel-support mesa-utils
>>
>> Check the installation with:
>>     $ glxinfo -B
>>
>> Shall I install the nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver
>>
>> https://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver
>>
>>
>> There is no point in doing that, because 390.xx driver series are
>> inferior to the most recent driver available.
>>
>>
>> --
>> With kindest regards, Alexander.
>>
>> ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
>> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
>> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org
>> ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀
>>
>>

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#241976

On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:51:33PM +0100, lina wrote:
> Can I have a system with both X-session and the nvidia-driver
> as gaussian view requires
> 
> Gaussview must be run in an X-windows session. Details for controlling the
> application are provided in the materials found in the Resources section.
> 

If you are running Bullseye [Debian 11] and GNOME, I think it defaults
to using Waylan - if you are at the login prompt, you can choose which
session is loaded by clicking on the cogwheel.

Hope this helps, all best as ever,

Andy Cater

> Thanks,
> 
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 2:23 PM lina <lina.lastname@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > It seems the drivers are there, my problems are:
> >
> > 1. I can't use gaussian view
> > 2. The Sweet Home 3D Error: Sweet Home 3D will exit now because of a fatal
> > error in the 3D rendering system of your computer. Please update the
> > DirectX/OpenGL drivers of your computer graphic card.
> >
> > Thanks again, lina
> >
> > # glxinfo -B
> > name of display: :0.0
> > display: :0  screen: 0
> > direct rendering: Yes
> > Memory info (GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info):
> >     Dedicated video memory: 2048 MB
> >     Total available memory: 2048 MB
> >     Currently available dedicated video memory: 1718 MB
> > OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
> > OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 730/PCIe/SSE2
> > OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 460.91.03
> > OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
> > OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
> > OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile
> >
> > OpenGL version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 460.91.03
> > OpenGL shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
> > OpenGL context flags: (none)
> > OpenGL profile mask: (none)
> >
> > OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 460.91.03
> > OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 12:05 PM Alexander V. Makartsev <avbetev@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 09.11.2021 15:26, lina wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I am still struggling with the graphic card issue.
> >>
> >> What issue exactly?
> >>
> >> # nvidia-detect
> >> Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
> >> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK208B
> >> [GeForce GT 730] [10de:1287] (rev a1)
> >>
> >> Checking card:  NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 730] (rev a1)
> >> Your card is supported by all driver versions.
> >> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 460 drivers series.
> >> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 450 drivers series.
> >> Your card is also supported by the Tesla 418 drivers series.
> >> It is recommended to install the
> >>     nvidia-driver
> >> package.
> >>
> >> Geforce GT 730 is still supported by Nvidia, so you should use recent
> >> driver, not a legacy one.
> >>     $ sudo apt install nvidia-driver nvidia-driver-bin nvidia-driver-libs
> >> nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-kernel-support mesa-utils
> >>
> >> Check the installation with:
> >>     $ glxinfo -B
> >>
> >> Shall I install the nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver
> >>
> >> https://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver
> >>
> >>
> >> There is no point in doing that, because 390.xx driver series are
> >> inferior to the most recent driver available.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> With kindest regards, Alexander.
> >>
> >> ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
> >> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system
> >> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org
> >> ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀
> >>
> >>

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#241977

On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 04:15:49PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:51:33PM +0100, lina wrote:
> > Can I have a system with both X-session and the nvidia-driver
> > as gaussian view requires
> > 
> > Gaussview must be run in an X-windows session. Details for controlling the
> > application are provided in the materials found in the Resources section.
> > 
> 
> If you are running Bullseye [Debian 11] and GNOME, I think it defaults
> to using Waylan - if you are at the login prompt, you can choose which
> session is loaded by clicking on the cogwheel.

Wayland, with a "d".  This is also true for Debian 10 (buster).

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#241978

On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 11:34:46AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 04:15:49PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:51:33PM +0100, lina wrote:
> > > Can I have a system with both X-session and the nvidia-driver
> > > as gaussian view requires
> > > 
> > > Gaussview must be run in an X-windows session. Details for controlling the
> > > application are provided in the materials found in the Resources section.
> > > 
> > 
> > If you are running Bullseye [Debian 11] and GNOME, I think it defaults
> > to using Waylan - if you are at the login prompt, you can choose which
> > session is loaded by clicking on the cogwheel.
> 
> Wayland, with a "d".  This is also true for Debian 10 (buster).
> 

Yes: I realised - as ever, you only see the typo once it's gone :)

Purging nouveau is always hard, but I understand that the installation 
scripts for the proprietary driver do a pretty good job. I think you may
only have to install nvidia-driver and the other necessary packages will be
pulled in.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater

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#241989

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I use the xfce4.

Shall I consider changing to the gnome in order to get this problem solved?

Thanks,

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:35 PM Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 04:15:49PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:51:33PM +0100, lina wrote:
> > > Can I have a system with both X-session and the nvidia-driver
> > > as gaussian view requires
> > >
> > > Gaussview must be run in an X-windows session. Details for controlling
> the
> > > application are provided in the materials found in the Resources
> section.
> > >
> >
> > If you are running Bullseye [Debian 11] and GNOME, I think it defaults
> > to using Waylan - if you are at the login prompt, you can choose which
> > session is loaded by clicking on the cogwheel.
>
> Wayland, with a "d".  This is also true for Debian 10 (buster).
>
>

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#241992

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On 10/11/2021 09:16, lina wrote:
> I use the xfce4.
> 
> Shall I consider changing to the gnome in order to get this problem solved?

I guess it is a lower level issue.

You may try Debian Live on your box to get a better idea.

Cheers,
Jerome
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 5:35 PM Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org <mailto:greg@wooledge.org>> wrote:
> 
>     On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 04:15:49PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>      > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:51:33PM +0100, lina wrote:
>      > > Can I have a system with both X-session and the nvidia-driver
>      > > as gaussian view requires
>      > >
>      > > Gaussview must be run in an X-windows session. Details for controlling the
>      > > application are provided in the materials found in the Resources section.
>      > >
>      >
>      > If you are running Bullseye [Debian 11] and GNOME, I think it defaults
>      > to using Waylan - if you are at the login prompt, you can choose which
>      > session is loaded by clicking on the cogwheel.
> 
>     Wayland, with a "d".  This is also true for Debian 10 (buster).
> 

-- 
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https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=calculus@rezozer.net
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#241997

> > > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:51:33PM +0100, lina wrote:
> > > > Can I have a system with both X-session and the nvidia-driver
> > > > as gaussian view requires
> > > >
> > > > Gaussview must be run in an X-windows session.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 09:16:12AM +0100, lina wrote:
> I use the xfce4.
> 
> Shall I consider changing to the gnome in order to get this problem solved?

That would be counter-productive.  Installing GNOME in order to use
Wayland instead of X, when your error message says that you need X,
doesn't sound like a helpful idea.

I've never used an nvidia card myself, so I don't have first-hand
experience with them.  From what I understand, the process of getting
graphics to work properly with nvidia goes something like this:

1) Install Debian.

2) Install firmware if needed.  This may make the nouveau driver work
   acceptably, or it may not.  If the nouveau driver with firmware
   works well enough for your needs, stop here.

3) Identify which card you have, and therefore which driver you need.
   There's more than one proprietary nvidia driver version.

4) Install the desired nvidia driver, which involves building a kernel
   module from an out-of-tree source package, which means installing
   the kernel headers which match your running kernel(s), and so on.

5) Bl(a|o)cklist the nouveau driver if necessary.  I'm not sure if this
   step is still required.

5.5) (Optional) Offer prayers and/or sacrifices to appropriate deities.

6) Reboot.

7) Start X and see what happens.

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#241998

On 10.11.21 at 13:25 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> I've never used an nvidia card myself, so I don't have first-hand
> experience with them.  From what I understand, the process of getting
> graphics to work properly with nvidia goes something like this:
> 
> 1) Install Debian.
> 
> 2) Install firmware if needed.  This may make the nouveau driver work
>    acceptably, or it may not.  If the nouveau driver with firmware
>    works well enough for your needs, stop here.
> 
> 3) Identify which card you have, and therefore which driver you need.
>    There's more than one proprietary nvidia driver version.
> 
> 4) Install the desired nvidia driver, which involves building a kernel
>    module from an out-of-tree source package, which means installing
>    the kernel headers which match your running kernel(s), and so on.
> 
> 5) Bl(a|o)cklist the nouveau driver if necessary.  I'm not sure if this
>    step is still required.
> 
> 5.5) (Optional) Offer prayers and/or sacrifices to appropriate deities.
> 
> 6) Reboot.
> 
> 7) Start X and see what happens.

Manual activities in steps 4 and 5 are quite well handled by the package
nvidia-driver (and it's legacy variants) in Debian non-free.

But I read from her other posts that the latest proprietary driver which
Debian ships is already installed and according to command line tools is
supposed to work.

As xfce currently does not support it, the problem is probably also not
related to wayland.

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#241982

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On 09.11.2021 18:23, lina wrote:
> It seems the drivers are there, my problems are:
>
> 1. I can't use gaussian view
> 2. The Sweet Home 3D Error: Sweet Home 3D will exit now because of a 
> fatal error in the 3D rendering system of your computer. Please update 
> the DirectX/OpenGL drivers of your computer graphic card.
I've installed SweetHome3D on my system with Nvidia VGA to see if this 
program would work for me.
When I tried to start it using "./SweetHome3D" I got the same message 
about "DirectX/OpenGL drivers", which is false.
But when I start SweetHome3D using "./SweetHome3D-Java3D-1_5_2" it runs 
and works without problems, AFAICS.

>
> Thanks again, lina
>
> # glxinfo -B
> name of display: :0.0
> display: :0  screen: 0
> direct rendering: Yes
> Memory info (GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info):
>     Dedicated video memory: 2048 MB
>     Total available memory: 2048 MB
>     Currently available dedicated video memory: 1718 MB
> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 730/PCIe/SSE2
> OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 460.91.03
> OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
> OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
> OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile
>
> OpenGL version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 460.91.03
> OpenGL shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
> OpenGL context flags: (none)
> OpenGL profile mask: (none)
>
> OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 460.91.03
> OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20
It looks like Nvidia driver is installed and working correctly.

-- 
With kindest regards, Alexander.

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