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question from total newbie. a little help please

Started byJAMES BOSWELL <boswelljames44@gmail.com>
First post2021-10-17 15:20 +0200
Last post2021-10-17 21:50 +0200
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  question from total newbie. a little help please JAMES BOSWELL <boswelljames44@gmail.com> - 2021-10-17 15:20 +0200
    Re: question from total newbie. a little help please john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2021-10-17 16:00 +0200
      Re: question from total newbie. a little help please Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2021-10-28 13:50 +0200
        Re: question from total newbie. a little help please "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-10-28 15:20 +0200
    Re: question from total newbie. a little help please Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-10-17 16:50 +0200
      Re: question from total newbie. a little help please "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-17 17:20 +0200
        Re: question from total newbie. a little help please Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2021-10-17 18:00 +0200
          [Off topic] Linux lynxes. was: Re: question from total newbie. "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-17 18:40 +0200
        Re: question from total newbie. a little help please Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-10-17 18:00 +0200
    Re: question from total newbie. a little help please David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-10-17 17:50 +0200
    Re: question from total newbie. a little help please David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2021-10-17 21:20 +0200
    Re: question from total newbie. a little help please Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2021-10-17 21:50 +0200

#241405 — question from total newbie. a little help please

FromJAMES BOSWELL <boswelljames44@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-17 15:20 +0200
Subjectquestion from total newbie. a little help please
Message-ID<D9ef0-5II-1@gated-at.bofh.it>

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if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to
effectively run debian on this laptop?

Device name LAPTOP-R4DB7V5U
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz   2.59 GHz
Installed RAM 4.00 GB (3.81 GB usable)
Device ID CAACC244-37B7-4294-84E4-E73B9C030FDF
Product ID 00356-02325-39311-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display

Edition Windows 10 Home
Version 21H1
Installed on ‎4/‎2/‎2021
OS build 19043.1288
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3920.0

i know about enough to fill a thimble but i'm hopeful and any guidance
would be greatly appreciated and i would follow it to the T's

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#241406

Fromjohn doe <johndoe65534@mail.com>
Date2021-10-17 16:00 +0200
Message-ID<D9eRH-5VX-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241405
On 10/17/2021 3:00 PM, JAMES BOSWELL wrote:
> if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to
> effectively run debian on this laptop?
>

You are planning on creating a 'multiboot' with Debian and Windows!

The best thing that I can suggest is to Google 'multiboot Bullseye and
Windows10'.

> i know about enough to fill a thimble but i'm hopeful and any guidance
> would be greatly appreciated and i would follow it to the T's
>

With W10 you have also the possibility of using 'WLS' an order
alternative would be to install Debian as a VM.
If you choose to go the VM way Virtualbox and Qemu are working fine on
Windows.

I would say that 'WLS' and 'VB/Qemu' are less prone to crashing your laptop.

--
John Doe

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#241746

FromRichard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz>
Date2021-10-28 13:50 +0200
Message-ID<DdbVf-5us-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241406
On 18/10/21 2:55 am, john doe wrote:
> With W10 you have also the possibility of using 'WLS' an order
> alternative would be to install Debian as a VM.

I think perhaps you mean WSL - Windows Subsystem for Linux?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install

I've never used it myself.

Richard

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#241747

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Date2021-10-28 15:20 +0200
Message-ID<Dddu1-7nN-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241746
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 12:30:37AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 18/10/21 2:55 am, john doe wrote:
> > With W10 you have also the possibility of using 'WLS' an order
> > alternative would be to install Debian as a VM.
> 
> I think perhaps you mean WSL - Windows Subsystem for Linux?
> 
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install
> 
> I've never used it myself.
> 
> Richard
> 

WSL2 - effectively a layer that sits on Hyper-V shim and can talk to 
Windows subsystems. Allows you to run Debian as a VM, effectively.

Debian WSL2 bundle is maintained by a Debian developer.

Andy C.

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#241407

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2021-10-17 16:50 +0200
Message-ID<D9fE5-6qX-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241405
JAMES BOSWELL wrote: 
> if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to
> effectively run debian on this laptop?
> 
> Device name LAPTOP-R4DB7V5U
> Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz   2.59 GHz
> Installed RAM 4.00 GB (3.81 GB usable)
> Product ID 00356-02325-39311-AAOEM
> System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Lynx is a text-mode web browser. Did you mean Debian bullseye,
which is the current stable version?

Bullseye should not have a problem with this laptop. If you need
to install via wifi rather than wired ethernet, you should start
with the non-free firmware installer:

https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/

-dsr-

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#241409

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2021-10-17 17:20 +0200
Message-ID<D9g78-6QB-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241407
Hi,

JAMES BOSWELL wrote:
> > install debian lynx

Dan Ritter
> Lynx is a text-mode web browser. Did you mean Debian bullseye,

I rather guess that "Debian GNU/Lynx, The Unyversl operating system"
is meant. ;-)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#241411

FromJude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com>
Date2021-10-17 18:00 +0200
Message-ID<D9gJP-74v-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241409
I think the o.p. may have got debian linux confused with debian lynx that
makes more sense over here.  Many Linux distros have code words for each
major version of their distributions.  The current stable code word for
debian is bullseye.  I've been installing debian since sarge and remember
no lynx code word attached to any debian version.


On Sun, 17 Oct 2021, Dan Ritter wrote:

> Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > JAMES BOSWELL wrote:
> > > > install debian lynx
> >
> > Dan Ritter
> > > Lynx is a text-mode web browser. Did you mean Debian bullseye,
> >
> > I rather guess that "Debian GNU/Lynx, The Unyversl operating system"
> > is meant. ;-)
> >
>
> Ah, you think it's a spieling error. Reasonable.
>
> -dsr-
>
>

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#241414 — [Off topic] Linux lynxes. was: Re: question from total newbie.

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2021-10-17 18:40 +0200
Subject[Off topic] Linux lynxes. was: Re: question from total newbie.
Message-ID<D9hmz-7yt-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241411
Hi,

Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I've been installing debian since sarge and remember
> no lynx code word attached to any debian version.

There was an Ubuntu release named Lucid Lynx, 11 years ago.
(My bet is that it won't run on a contemporary laptop.)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#241412

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2021-10-17 18:00 +0200
Message-ID<D9gJQ-74v-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241409
Thomas Schmitt wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> JAMES BOSWELL wrote:
> > > install debian lynx
> 
> Dan Ritter
> > Lynx is a text-mode web browser. Did you mean Debian bullseye,
> 
> I rather guess that "Debian GNU/Lynx, The Unyversl operating system"
> is meant. ;-)
> 

Ah, you think it's a spieling error. Reasonable.

-dsr-

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#241410

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2021-10-17 17:50 +0200
Message-ID<D9gA9-70f-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241405
On Sun 17 Oct 2021 at 09:00:52 (-0400), JAMES BOSWELL wrote:
> if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to
> effectively run debian on this laptop?

How big is the hard drive, and how much space is currently occupied?

Cheers,
David.

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#241423

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2021-10-17 21:20 +0200
Message-ID<D9jRn-Qk-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241405
On 10/17/21 6:00 AM, JAMES BOSWELL wrote:
> if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be able to
> effectively run debian on this laptop?
> 
> Device name LAPTOP-R4DB7V5U
> Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz   2.59 GHz
> Installed RAM 4.00 GB (3.81 GB usable)
> Device ID CAACC244-37B7-4294-84E4-E73B9C030FDF
> Product ID 00356-02325-39311-AAOEM
> System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
> Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
> 
> Edition Windows 10 Home
> Version 21H1
> Installed on ‎4/‎2/‎2021
> OS build 19043.1288
> Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3920.0
> 
> i know about enough to fill a thimble but i'm hopeful and any guidance
> would be greatly appreciated and i would follow it to the T's


You processor has hardware support for virtualization:

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/196451/intel-core-i310110u-processor-4m-cache-up-to-4-10-ghz.html

Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x) ‡ Yes
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡ Yes
Intel® VT-x with Extended Page Tables (EPT) ‡ Yes


I recommend that you install Oracle VirtualBox, create a virtual machine 
(VM), and install Debian GNU/Linux into the VM:

https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads


David

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#241425

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-17 21:50 +0200
Message-ID<D9kkq-14I-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241405
On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 09:00:52 -0400
JAMES BOSWELL <boswelljames44@gmail.com> wrote:

> if i divide my hard drive and install debian lynx on it. will i be
> able to effectively run debian on this laptop?

The best way to find that out is to get a Live version of Debian, and
see if boots and runs without problems.

> Device name LAPTOP-R4DB7V5U
> Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-10110U CPU @ 2.10GHz   2.59 GHz
> Installed RAM 4.00 GB (3.81 GB usable)
> Device ID CAACC244-37B7-4294-84E4-E73B9C030FDF
> Product ID 00356-02325-39311-AAOEM
> System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
> Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
> 
> Edition Windows 10 Home
> Version 21H1
> Installed on ‎4/‎2/‎2021
> OS build 19043.1288
> Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3920.0
> 
> i know about enough to fill a thimble but i'm hopeful and any guidance
> would be greatly appreciated and i would follow it to the T's

Since your knowledge of Linux admittedly is severely lacking, I would
recommend thoroughly researching Linux, in general, and Debian, in
particularly, BEFORE attempting any install. And the first attempt be
on a system you don't mind trashing.

And always keep in mind: Linux is NOT Windows.  So never assume that
the way you did it on Windows will work on Linux.

Welcome to the neighborhood.

B

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