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Launch a minimal MATE DE

Started byRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
First post2022-03-06 09:40 +0100
Last post2022-03-11 10:50 +0100
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  Launch a minimal MATE DE Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2022-03-06 09:40 +0100
    Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-03-06 09:40 +0100
      Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2022-03-06 10:00 +0100
        Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE Christian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de> - 2022-03-06 10:10 +0100
          Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2022-03-06 10:40 +0100
      Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-06 10:30 +0100
        Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2022-03-06 10:50 +0100
          Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-06 11:10 +0100
        Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2022-03-08 02:00 +0100
          Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-08 07:10 +0100
            Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-03-08 16:10 +0100
              Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2022-03-08 17:50 +0100
              Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2022-03-11 10:50 +0100

#245978 — Launch a minimal MATE DE

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2022-03-06 09:40 +0100
SubjectLaunch a minimal MATE DE
Message-ID<DXUAN-6dAT-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
I used debian-11.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install CLI of Debian.
I then did:
> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment
When I attempted to run startx I received the message
> startx: command not found

IIRC this has worked in the past. But it has been a couple of years.

What have I forgotten?
What should I be re-reading?

TIA

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#245979

FromChristian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de>
Date2022-03-06 09:40 +0100
Message-ID<DXUAN-6dAT-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#245978

On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:

>> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment
> When I attempted to run startx I received the message
>> startx: command not found

Hi Richard,

I can't tell you anything about the dependencies but you could try to
install xinit package. This contains the startx command.

Regards,
Christian

-- 
http://www.cb-fraggle.de

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#245980

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2022-03-06 10:00 +0100
Message-ID<DXUUa-6dHF-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#245979
On 03/06/2022 02:34 AM, Christian Britz wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:
> 
>>> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment
>> When I attempted to run startx I received the message
>>> startx: command not found
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I can't tell you anything about the dependencies but you could try to
> install xinit package. This contains the startx command.
> 
> Regards,
> Christian
> 

Thanks. I'll try that. At the moment I'm having some hardware problems 
connecting the test machine to the internet. I use a Alcatel Linkzone 
4GLTE Hotspot from T-Mobile. Intermittently Debian doesn't recognize it. 
Yesterday it was fine ;{

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#245981

FromChristian Britz <cbritz@t-online.de>
Date2022-03-06 10:10 +0100
Message-ID<DXV3P-6e0s-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#245980

On 2022-03-06 09:49 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Thanks. I'll try that. At the moment I'm having some hardware problems 
> connecting the test machine to the internet. I use a Alcatel Linkzone 
> 4GLTE Hotspot from T-Mobile. Intermittently Debian doesn't recognize it. 
> Yesterday it was fine ;{

If you have an Android phone (probably with iPhone too), you could try
to put the sim card into the phone and connect it via USB. USB tethering
works out of the box for me on Debian stable.

Regards,
Christian

-- 
http://www.cb-fraggle.de

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#245983

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2022-03-06 10:40 +0100
Message-ID<DXVwR-6eac-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#245981
On 03/06/2022 03:00 AM, Christian Britz wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2022-03-06 09:49 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> Thanks. I'll try that. At the moment I'm having some hardware problems
>> connecting the test machine to the internet. I use a Alcatel Linkzone
>> 4GLTE Hotspot from T-Mobile. Intermittently Debian doesn't recognize it.
>> Yesterday it was fine ;{
> 
> If you have an Android phone (probably with iPhone too),

I don't have any smartphone. Due to elderly eyes, a laptop screen is 
barely large enough. Normally I use a 17" monitor.


> you could try
> to put the sim card into the phone and connect it via USB. USB tethering
> works out of the box for me on Debian stable.

I connect the Linkzone via USB. I have disabled its WiFi as I've not 
spent the time to understand how to have secure WiFi and in any case I 
only use one machine at a time.

After doing power off/on on both the laptop and Linkzone everything 
worked. I now have the desired minimal MATE DE.

For anyone reading this thread, my request for suggested reading stands.

Thanks.




> 
> Regards,
> Christian
>

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#245982

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2022-03-06 10:30 +0100
Message-ID<DXVnb-6e72-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#245979

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On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:34:36AM +0100, Christian Britz wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:
> 
> >> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment
> > When I attempted to run startx I received the message
> >> startx: command not found
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I can't tell you anything about the dependencies but you could try to
> install xinit package. This contains the startx command.

(Thanks, Christian, for the fish. Now I'll try to sell the rod ;-)

Reminder (paste this on a sticky note on your workshop wall :)

  apt-file search startx

(or, if you want more specific results):

  apt-file search /usr/bin/startx

A partial path, like bin/startx will do, too (so if you don't know whether
the thing lives in /bin/foo, /sbin/foo, /usr/bin/foo, /usr/sbin/foo you
can match against "bin/foo".

Enjoy Debian :)

Cheers
-- 
t

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#245985

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2022-03-06 10:50 +0100
Message-ID<DXVGx-6edA-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#245982
On 03/06/2022 03:20 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:34:36AM +0100, Christian Britz wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>
>>>> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment
>>> When I attempted to run startx I received the message
>>>> startx: command not found
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> I can't tell you anything about the dependencies but you could try to
>> install xinit package. This contains the startx command.
> 
> (Thanks, Christian, for the fish. Now I'll try to sell the rod ;-)

I guess the reel and line are up to me ;}

> 
> Reminder (paste this on a sticky note on your workshop wall :)
> 
>    apt-file search startx
> 
> (or, if you want more specific results):
> 
>    apt-file search /usr/bin/startx
> 
> A partial path, like bin/startx will do, too (so if you don't know whether
> the thing lives in /bin/foo, /sbin/foo, /usr/bin/foo, /usr/sbin/foo you
> can match against "bin/foo".
> 
> Enjoy Debian :)

Been enjoying it since days of Squeeze. I just use it strangely.
Thanks.

> 
> Cheers
>

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#245986

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2022-03-06 11:10 +0100
Message-ID<DXVZT-6ezK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#245985

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On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 03:47:25AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 03/06/2022 03:20 AM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

[...]

> > (Thanks, Christian, for the fish. Now I'll try to sell the rod ;-)
> 
> I guess the reel and line are up to me ;}

This is due to the irremediable kit & tinkerer mentality around here.

Sorry for the inconvenience ;-)

Cheers
-- 
t

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#246036

FromRichard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz>
Date2022-03-08 02:00 +0100
Message-ID<DYwmJ-eM4-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#245982
On 6/03/22 22:20, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:34:36AM +0100, Christian Britz wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 2022-03-06 09:30 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> 
>> >> apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment
>> > When I attempted to run startx I received the message
>> >> startx: command not found
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> 
>> I can't tell you anything about the dependencies but you could try to
>> install xinit package. This contains the startx command.
> 
> (Thanks, Christian, for the fish. Now I'll try to sell the rod ;-)
> 
> Reminder (paste this on a sticky note on your workshop wall :)
> 
>    apt-file search startx

Just to solve the infinite recursion problem:

richard@zircon:~$ apt-file search bin/apt-file
apt-file: /usr/bin/apt-file

so install the apt-file package :-)

Cheers,
Richard

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#246041

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2022-03-08 07:10 +0100
Message-ID<DYBcJ-iBr-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#246036

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On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 01:54:11PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:

[...]

> Just to solve the infinite recursion problem:
> 
> richard@zircon:~$ apt-file search bin/apt-file
> apt-file: /usr/bin/apt-file
> 
> so install the apt-file package :-)

Oh, a recursive fishing rod :-)

-- 
t

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#246061

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2022-03-08 16:10 +0100
Message-ID<DYJDj-nH0-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#246041
On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 07:00:08 (+0100), tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 01:54:11PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Just to solve the infinite recursion problem:
> > 
> > richard@zircon:~$ apt-file search bin/apt-file
> > apt-file: /usr/bin/apt-file
> > 
> > so install the apt-file package :-)
> 
> Oh, a recursive fishing rod :-)

Sorry to disappoint, but I think we're dealing with
repetition here, rather than recursion:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/10/msg00589.html

Cheers,
David.

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#246070

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2022-03-08 17:50 +0100
Message-ID<DYLc5-ous-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#246061

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On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 09:06:45AM -0600, David Wright wrote:

[...]

> Sorry to disappoint, but I think we're dealing with
> repetition here, rather than recursion:
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/10/msg00589.html

Fans of classical functional languages repeat through recursion,
anyway ;-D

Cheers
-- 
t

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#246187

FromRichard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz>
Date2022-03-11 10:50 +0100
Message-ID<DZK4h-10in-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#246061
On 9/03/22 04:06, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 07:00:08 (+0100), tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 01:54:11PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> > Just to solve the infinite recursion problem:
>> > 
>> > richard@zircon:~$ apt-file search bin/apt-file
>> > apt-file: /usr/bin/apt-file
>> > 
>> > so install the apt-file package :-)
>> 
>> Oh, a recursive fishing rod :-)
> 
> Sorry to disappoint, but I think we're dealing with
> repetition here, rather than recursion:

Perhaps both.

Cheers,
Richard

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