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  Installing minimal command line system with netinst.iso Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2022-03-03 21:30 +0100
    Re: Installing minimal command line system with netinst.iso Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2022-03-03 22:10 +0100
      Re: Installing minimal command line system with netinst.iso Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2022-03-04 11:20 +0100
    Re: Installing minimal command line system with netinst.iso Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2022-03-04 00:00 +0100
      Re: Installing minimal command line system with netinst.iso Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2022-03-04 11:40 +0100
    Re: Installing minimal command line system with netinst.iso David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-03-08 16:20 +0100

#245856 — Installing minimal command line system with netinst.iso

I have limited internet connectivity.
I have read over the years that installing a *MINIMAL* command line 
system from netinst.iso [without internet is possible].
The intent to add pieces later assumed.
Is this process described somewhere?

I've got a system that appears to have a very minimal shell running.
My potential internet connection is a USB connected hotspot from 
T-Mobile. On a typical GUI installed Debian it runs fine.

My minimal system doesn't recognize it.
What might be the missing software?

Any suggestions?
My effective data cap at the moment is ~1 GB/month.
Among my goals is installer for those with _*minimal*_ resources.

TIA

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#245857

Am Donnerstag, 3. März 2022, 21:24:29 CET schrieb Richard Owlett:
Hi Richard,

I suppose you got not a hotspot from T-mobile, but an USB-stick with a GSM-
card inside.

These USB-stick need some firmware, maybe just that is missing?

If you like to use taht USB-stick, which I have in mind, you can connect with 
it to the internet with the normal modem commands.

And please note, this sticks sometimes got a little memeory on it (for windows 
drivers), and youu have to force linux to see the usb-stick as modem and not 
as a memorystick.

There is a nice little tool for this, called "comgt", which does handle it.

Hope this helps.

Best

Hans 

> I have limited internet connectivity.
> I have read over the years that installing a *MINIMAL* command line
> system from netinst.iso [without internet is possible].
> The intent to add pieces later assumed.
> Is this process described somewhere?
> 
> I've got a system that appears to have a very minimal shell running.
> My potential internet connection is a USB connected hotspot from
> T-Mobile. On a typical GUI installed Debian it runs fine.
> 
> My minimal system doesn't recognize it.
> What might be the missing software?
> 
> Any suggestions?
> My effective data cap at the moment is ~1 GB/month.
> Among my goals is installer for those with _*minimal*_ resources.
> 
> TIA

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#245863

On 03/03/2022 03:01 PM, Hans wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 3. März 2022, 21:24:29 CET schrieb Richard Owlett:
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I suppose you got not a hotspot from T-mobile, but an USB-stick with a GSM-
> card inside.

Nope! <grin>

It is a WiFi Hotspot intended to serve 16 WiFi connected devices.
Specifically it is labeled "Alcatel Linkzone", a "4GLTE Hotspot".
I have selected to keep the WiFi disabled {a menu choice}.
[I consider WiFi to be intrinsically a potential vulnerability.  As a 
senior citizen I'm old fashioned.}

The USB-stick you describe is probably what I was looking for when my 
dial-up connected ISP closed down several years ago. T-Mobile was the 
only local wireless provider that did want to coerce me into buying a 
"smart"(sic) phone. Back then their screens were too small to be usable.

> 
> These USB-stick need some firmware, maybe just that is missing?
> 
> If you like to use taht USB-stick, which I have in mind, you can connect with
> it to the internet with the normal modem commands.
> 
> And please note, this sticks sometimes got a little memeory on it (for windows
> drivers), and youu have to force linux to see the usb-stick as modem and not
> as a memorystick.

I've noticed that ;/
When I power up my laptop, I have to leave it unplugged until the boot 
process has completed. Otherwise it tries to treat it as a memory device.

> 
> There is a nice little tool for this, called "comgt", which does handle it.
> 

Synaptic's description of "comgt" describes as aimed at "3G datacards". 
My device is 4G and the homepage link is outdated.

> Hope this helps.


Thanks for trying. Any other suggestions?


> 
> Best
> 
> Hans
> 
>> I have limited internet connectivity.
>> I have read over the years that installing a *MINIMAL* command line
>> system from netinst.iso [without internet is possible].
>> The intent to add pieces later assumed.
>> Is this process described somewhere?
>>
>> I've got a system that appears to have a very minimal shell running.
>> My potential internet connection is a USB connected hotspot from
>> T-Mobile. On a typical GUI installed Debian it runs fine.
>>
>> My minimal system doesn't recognize it.
>> What might be the missing software?
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>> My effective data cap at the moment is ~1 GB/month.
>> Among my goals is installer for those with _*minimal*_ resources.
>>
>> TIA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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#245859

On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 14:24:29 -0600
Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:

> I have limited internet connectivity.
> I have read over the years that installing a *MINIMAL* command line 
> system from netinst.iso [without internet is possible].
> The intent to add pieces later assumed.
> Is this process described somewhere?
> 
> I've got a system that appears to have a very minimal shell running.
> My potential internet connection is a USB connected hotspot from 
> T-Mobile. On a typical GUI installed Debian it runs fine.
> 
> My minimal system doesn't recognize it.
> What might be the missing software?
> 
> Any suggestions?
> My effective data cap at the moment is ~1 GB/month.
> Among my goals is installer for those with _*minimal*_ resources.

I'm assuming you're connecting your phone directly via its USB port to a
USB port on your computer.  You probably need to make an entry
in /etc/network/interfaces. Plus, enable "USB tethering" (not wifi) in
Settings/Network on your phone.  Here's my interfaces entry:

allow-hotplug usb0
iface usb0 inet dhcp

My phone gets recognized as usb0, your's my differ.  Make the
correction, if needed.

B



iface usb0 inet dhcp

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#245864

On 03/03/2022 04:56 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 14:24:29 -0600
> Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> 
>> I have limited internet connectivity.
>> I have read over the years that installing a *MINIMAL* command line
>> system from netinst.iso [without internet is possible].
>> The intent to add pieces later assumed.
>> Is this process described somewhere?
>>
>> I've got a system that appears to have a very minimal shell running.
>> My potential internet connection is a USB connected hotspot from
>> T-Mobile. On a typical GUI installed Debian it runs fine.
>>
>> My minimal system doesn't recognize it.
>> What might be the missing software?
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>> My effective data cap at the moment is ~1 GB/month.
>> Among my goals is installer for those with _*minimal*_ resources.
> 
> I'm assuming you're connecting your phone

It is not a phone.
It is a WiFi Hotspot intended to serve 16 WiFi connected devices.
Specifically it is labeled "Alcatel Linkzone", a "4GLTE Hotspot".
I have selected to keep the WiFi disabled {a menu choice}.
[I consider WiFi to be intrinsically a potential vulnerability.  As a 
senior citizen I'm old fashioned.}


> directly via its USB port to a
> USB port on your computer.  You probably need to make an entry
> in /etc/network/interfaces. Plus, enable "USB tethering" (not wifi) in
> Settings/Network on your phone.  Here's my interfaces entry:
> 
> allow-hotplug usb0
> iface usb0 inet dhcp
> 
> My phone gets recognized as usb0, your's my differ.  Make the
> correction, if needed.

Your description would be consistent with what I see.
When I power up my laptop, I have to leave the Hotspot unplugged until 
the boot process has completed. Otherwise it tries to treat it as a 
memory device.

Can you point me to a more complete description of the process?
TIA



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#246063

On Thu 03 Mar 2022 at 14:24:29 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have limited internet connectivity.
> I have read over the years that installing a *MINIMAL* command line
> system from netinst.iso [without internet is possible].
> The intent to add pieces later assumed.
> Is this process described somewhere?
> 
> I've got a system that appears to have a very minimal shell running.
> My potential internet connection is a USB connected hotspot from
> T-Mobile. On a typical GUI installed Debian it runs fine.
> 
> My minimal system doesn't recognize it.
> What might be the missing software?
> 
> Any suggestions?
> My effective data cap at the moment is ~1 GB/month.
> Among my goals is installer for those with _*minimal*_ resources.

If all else fails, make sure both GUI and minimal systems are fully
upgraded, then run   dkpg -l > some-file   on both, and compare with
diff -u   to get a rather long list of packages installed on the GUI.
Peruse the list, skipping the lib* packages at first reading, looking
for those relevant for networking.

(This won't find /configuration/ differences.)

Cheers,
David.

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