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  Installing Bullseye and update notoneofmyseeds <notoneofmyseeds@gmx.de> - 2022-02-05 20:40 +0100
    Re: Installing Bullseye and update "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2022-02-05 21:10 +0100

#245022 — Installing Bullseye and update

Hello,

I recently installed bullseye and a problem (perhaps it's not) remains.

The 'problem' is that when one installs from a DVD image, the
sources.list file is not updated, even after I selected to use the
'mirror' during install.

This 'problem' has been around for a while and I think ruins a
first-user experience.

Can it not be that as part of the installation the sources.list is
updated and the list form the install media is permanently removed from
the system? The likelihood of a user relying on old packages on an ISO
and thus use them for updating their system seems remote to me.

Even after I commented out (#) the line of the ISO image on the
sources.list, I still was left with the same errors such as:

"could not resolve debian.org" or "

A similar problem can be found on this mailing list:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/02/msg00058.html

In my case, the system remains useless, as I must install non-free
firmware, before I can get GUI, and that I cannot do until I add
"contrib non-free" which I did, but the list will not update because of
reasons stated above. (https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo#Installation)

I have seen so many solutions online, such as editing files or entering
directory at var/lib/apt/lists

Again, for a first-time user, this is not the kind of experience that
brings them to Linux. At the very least, the first-install experience
should be smooth.

This is just a feedback. And I hope I have shown respect as well for
those who work hard on Debian.

Thanks for reading.

Best wishes.

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#245023

On Sat, Feb 05, 2022 at 08:35:28PM +0100, notoneofmyseeds wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I recently installed bullseye and a problem (perhaps it's not) remains.
> 
> The 'problem' is that when one installs from a DVD image, the
> sources.list file is not updated, even after I selected to use the
> 'mirror' during install.
> 
> This 'problem' has been around for a while and I think ruins a
> first-user experience.
> 
> Can it not be that as part of the installation the sources.list is
> updated and the list form the install media is permanently removed from
> the system? The likelihood of a user relying on old packages on an ISO
> and thus use them for updating their system seems remote to me.
> 

Although it's not common: it could be that someone _only_ has DVD images
to install from and no network so although it is inconvenient to have
to comment it out, it's not unfixable.

1. How are you intending to install the remaining packages - only over wifi?

2. What does your /etc/network/interfaces stanza look like?

3. Do you have network access on another machine?

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater


> Even after I commented out (#) the line of the ISO image on the
> sources.list, I still was left with the same errors such as:
> 
> "could not resolve debian.org" or "
> 
> A similar problem can be found on this mailing list:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/02/msg00058.html
> 
> In my case, the system remains useless, as I must install non-free
> firmware, before I can get GUI, and that I cannot do until I add
> "contrib non-free" which I did, but the list will not update because of
> reasons stated above. (https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo#Installation)
> 
> I have seen so many solutions online, such as editing files or entering
> directory at var/lib/apt/lists
> 
> Again, for a first-time user, this is not the kind of experience that
> brings them to Linux. At the very least, the first-install experience
> should be smooth.
> 
> This is just a feedback. And I hope I have shown respect as well for
> those who work hard on Debian.
> 
> Thanks for reading.
> 
> Best wishes.
> 
> 

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