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| Started by | "C.T.F. Jansen" <frank.jansen@actrix.gen.nz> |
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| First post | 2022-01-21 09:20 +0100 |
| Last post | 2022-01-22 01:00 +0100 |
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Where is Debian 11 installer for amd64 that works please ? "C.T.F. Jansen" <frank.jansen@actrix.gen.nz> - 2022-01-21 09:20 +0100
Re: Where is Debian 11 installer for amd64 that works please ? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2022-01-21 10:40 +0100
Re: Where is Debian 11 installer for amd64 that works please ? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2022-01-21 12:00 +0100
Re: Where is Debian 11 installer for amd64 that works please ? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2022-01-22 01:00 +0100
| From | "C.T.F. Jansen" <frank.jansen@actrix.gen.nz> |
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| Date | 2022-01-21 09:20 +0100 |
| Subject | Where is Debian 11 installer for amd64 that works please ? |
| Message-ID | <DHXjj-427-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Greetings I have been trying to install Debian 11 on an Asus from 2018 with i5 using amd64 install DVD's with 11.1.0 and 11.2.0 and a net install CD with 11.2.0 . All three have fallen over because of installer bugs. There is currently a Debian 9 system on the laptop that went on without difficulty. Am trying to install it to an external hard disk so it can be tested and debugged without much damage to the running Debian 9 system. The Debian 11.2.0 net install CD is the unofficial one with non free firmware. Good to have all the drivers in one go. It comes straight off the Debian website, is unmodified and is on a CD. Where/how do I get one that works please ? An alternate plan is to install from a Debian 10 net inst CD, non free, amd64. This one went on to another machine without difficulty . Then wait and see whether the Debian 12 installer is any better. Thanks. C.T.F. Jansen, ZL2TTS
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| From | Joe <joe@jretrading.com> |
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| Date | 2022-01-21 10:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DHYyL-4Ha-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #244252 |
On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 21:10:01 +1300 "C.T.F. Jansen" <frank.jansen@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > Greetings > > I have been trying to install Debian 11 on an Asus from 2018 with i5 > using amd64 install DVD's with 11.1.0 and 11.2.0 and a net install > CD with 11.2.0 . All three have fallen over because of installer bugs. > > There is currently a Debian 9 system on the laptop that went on > without difficulty. > > Am trying to install it to an external hard disk so it can be tested > and debugged without much damage to the running Debian 9 system. > > The Debian 11.2.0 net install CD is the unofficial one with non free > firmware. Good to have all the drivers in one go. > It comes straight off the Debian website, is unmodified and is on a > CD. > > Where/how do I get one that works please ? > > An alternate plan is to install from a Debian 10 net inst CD, non > free, amd64. This one went on to another machine without difficulty . > Then wait and see whether the Debian 12 installer is any better. > Are you willing to release the secret of what is going wrong with the installer? Because it certainly Works For Me (tm). Now, there may be issues with your particular hardware, but we'll only be able to troubleshoot that if you tell us what the issues are. I note you tell us how old the laptop is, but not the age of the external drive. I mention this because I have, not unreasonably, had trouble trying to install to a 12-year-old drive which turned out to be a bit dodgy... -- Joe
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| From | "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> |
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| Date | 2022-01-21 12:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DHZOb-5n5-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #244252 |
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 09:10:01PM +1300, C.T.F. Jansen wrote: > Greetings > > I have been trying to install Debian 11 on an Asus from 2018 with i5 using > amd64 install DVD's with 11.1.0 and 11.2.0 and a net install CD with 11.2.0 > . All three have fallen over because of installer bugs. > > There is currently a Debian 9 system on the laptop that went on without > difficulty. > If you have already got a laptop that is running Debian: a. You can upgrade it in place to Debian 10 and Debian 11. or b. You can install Debian 11 over the top of 9 - this is a destructive process but will give you an absolutely clean install. This is a fairly regular topic on this list: I prefer to do a) but the advice of others may vary. First things first - copy off any data that you really must have - which is always a good plan. Also, note things that you may have changed / third party .deb packages and so on - so that you have a head start if anything goes wrong. [Network connection passwords, mail settings are always useful and it's hard to remember and recreate them when they're wiped :) ] If you do decide to upgrade in place: make sure that your Debian 9 installation is up to date and fully patched first. Follow the release notes for Debian 10. Upgrade to 10, reboot, then follow the release notes for 11 and upgrade. You are bringing your machine forwards five years or so - so things will change. 11.2 non-free network install should "just work" to install from scratch. Installing to an external disk is possbile but not done as often as other install methods - you'd need to look very carefully at where and how the grub bootloader is installed. Some details of the erors you're seeing would be useful. All the very best, Andrew Cater > Am trying to install it to an external hard disk so it can be tested and > debugged without much damage to the running Debian 9 system. > > The Debian 11.2.0 net install CD is the unofficial one with non free > firmware. Good to have all the drivers in one go. > It comes straight off the Debian website, is unmodified and is on a CD. > > Where/how do I get one that works please ? > > An alternate plan is to install from a Debian 10 net inst CD, non free, > amd64. This one went on to another machine without difficulty . Then wait > and see whether the Debian 12 installer is any better. > > Thanks. > > C.T.F. Jansen, ZL2TTS >
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| From | David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> |
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| Date | 2022-01-22 01:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DIbYZ-4jS-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #244252 |
On 1/21/22 12:10 AM, C.T.F. Jansen wrote: > Greetings > > I have been trying to install Debian 11 on an Asus from 2018 with i5 > using amd64 install DVD's with 11.1.0 and 11.2.0 and a net install CD > with 11.2.0 . All three have fallen over because of installer bugs. > > There is currently a Debian 9 system on the laptop that went on > without difficulty. > > Am trying to install it to an external hard disk so it can be tested and > debugged without much damage to the running Debian 9 system. > > The Debian 11.2.0 net install CD is the unofficial one with non free > firmware. Good to have all the drivers in one go. > It comes straight off the Debian website, is unmodified and is on a CD. > > Where/how do I get one that works please ? > > An alternate plan is to install from a Debian 10 net inst CD, non free, > amd64. This one went on to another machine without difficulty . Then > wait and see whether the Debian 12 installer is any better. > > Thanks. > > C.T.F. Jansen, ZL2TTS What is the model of the Asus computer? What model CPU? How much RAM? What is the make, model, and size of the external disk? What is the connection between the computer and the external disk? Are you certain that the computer port (USB?) is good, the cable is good, the external disk is good, and the external disk power adapter is good? What are the source URL's and the file names of the Debian Installer images that you downloaded? Did you verify the checksum of the images? Did you verify the burned DVD's against the downloaded images? What are the steps required to reproduce the installer bugs? David
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