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Where is Debian 11 installer for amd64 that works please ?

Started by"C.T.F. Jansen" <frank.jansen@actrix.gen.nz>
First post2022-01-21 09:20 +0100
Last post2022-01-22 01:00 +0100
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  Where is Debian 11 installer for amd64 that works please ? "C.T.F. Jansen" <frank.jansen@actrix.gen.nz> - 2022-01-21 09:20 +0100
    Re: Where is Debian 11 installer for amd64 that works please ? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2022-01-21 10:40 +0100
    Re: Where is Debian 11 installer for amd64 that works please ? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2022-01-21 12:00 +0100
    Re: Where is Debian 11 installer for amd64 that works please ? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2022-01-22 01:00 +0100

#244252 — Where is Debian 11 installer for amd64 that works please ?

From"C.T.F. Jansen" <frank.jansen@actrix.gen.nz>
Date2022-01-21 09:20 +0100
SubjectWhere is Debian 11 installer for amd64 that works please ?
Message-ID<DHXjj-427-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
Greetings

I have been trying to install Debian 11 on an Asus from 2018 with i5 
using amd64 install DVD's  with 11.1.0 and 11.2.0 and a net install CD 
with 11.2.0 . All three have fallen over because of installer bugs.

   There is currently a Debian 9 system on the laptop that went on 
without difficulty.

Am trying to install it to an external hard disk so it can be tested and 
debugged without much damage to the running Debian 9 system.

The Debian 11.2.0 net install CD is the unofficial one with non free 
firmware. Good to have all the drivers in one go.
It comes straight off the Debian website, is unmodified and is on a CD.

Where/how do I get one that works please ?

An alternate plan is to install from a Debian 10 net inst CD, non free, 
amd64. This one went on to another machine without difficulty . Then 
wait and see whether the Debian 12 installer is any better.

Thanks.

C.T.F. Jansen, ZL2TTS

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#244255

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2022-01-21 10:40 +0100
Message-ID<DHYyL-4Ha-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#244252
On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 21:10:01 +1300
"C.T.F. Jansen" <frank.jansen@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> Greetings
> 
> I have been trying to install Debian 11 on an Asus from 2018 with i5 
> using amd64 install DVD's  with 11.1.0 and 11.2.0 and a net install
> CD with 11.2.0 . All three have fallen over because of installer bugs.
> 
>    There is currently a Debian 9 system on the laptop that went on 
> without difficulty.
> 
> Am trying to install it to an external hard disk so it can be tested
> and debugged without much damage to the running Debian 9 system.
> 
> The Debian 11.2.0 net install CD is the unofficial one with non free 
> firmware. Good to have all the drivers in one go.
> It comes straight off the Debian website, is unmodified and is on a
> CD.
> 
> Where/how do I get one that works please ?
> 
> An alternate plan is to install from a Debian 10 net inst CD, non
> free, amd64. This one went on to another machine without difficulty .
> Then wait and see whether the Debian 12 installer is any better.
> 

Are you willing to release the secret of what is going wrong with the
installer? Because it certainly Works For Me (tm).

Now, there may be issues with your particular hardware, but we'll only
be able to troubleshoot that if you tell us what the issues are.

I note you tell us how old the laptop is, but not the age of the
external drive. I mention this because I have, not unreasonably, had
trouble trying to install to a 12-year-old drive which turned out to
be a bit dodgy...

-- 
Joe

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#244261

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Date2022-01-21 12:00 +0100
Message-ID<DHZOb-5n5-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#244252
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 09:10:01PM +1300, C.T.F. Jansen wrote:
> Greetings
> 
> I have been trying to install Debian 11 on an Asus from 2018 with i5 using
> amd64 install DVD's  with 11.1.0 and 11.2.0 and a net install CD with 11.2.0
> . All three have fallen over because of installer bugs.
> 
>   There is currently a Debian 9 system on the laptop that went on without
> difficulty.
> 

If you have already got a laptop that is running Debian: 

a. You can upgrade it in place to Debian 10 and Debian 11.

or

b. You can install Debian 11 over the top of 9 - this is a destructive
process but will give you an absolutely clean install.

This is a fairly regular topic on this list: I prefer to do a) but the
advice of others may vary.

First things first - copy off any data that you really must have - which 
is always a good plan. Also, note things that you may have changed / third
party .deb packages and so on - so that you have a head start if anything
goes wrong. [Network connection passwords, mail settings are always useful
and it's hard to remember and recreate them when they're wiped :) ]

If you do decide to upgrade in place: make sure that your Debian 9 installation
is up to date and fully patched first. Follow the release notes for Debian 10.
Upgrade to 10, reboot, then follow the release notes for 11 and upgrade.
You are bringing your machine forwards five years or so - so things will
change.

11.2 non-free network install should "just work" to install from scratch.
Installing to an external disk is possbile but not done as often as 
other install methods - you'd need to look very carefully at where and
how the grub bootloader is installed.

Some details of the erors you're seeing would be useful.

All the very best,

Andrew Cater

> Am trying to install it to an external hard disk so it can be tested and
> debugged without much damage to the running Debian 9 system.
> 
> The Debian 11.2.0 net install CD is the unofficial one with non free
> firmware. Good to have all the drivers in one go.
> It comes straight off the Debian website, is unmodified and is on a CD.
> 
> Where/how do I get one that works please ?
> 
> An alternate plan is to install from a Debian 10 net inst CD, non free,
> amd64. This one went on to another machine without difficulty . Then wait
> and see whether the Debian 12 installer is any better.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> C.T.F. Jansen, ZL2TTS
> 

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#244293

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2022-01-22 01:00 +0100
Message-ID<DIbYZ-4jS-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#244252
On 1/21/22 12:10 AM, C.T.F. Jansen wrote:
> Greetings
> 
> I have been trying to install Debian 11 on an Asus from 2018 with i5 
> using amd64 install DVD's  with 11.1.0 and 11.2.0 and a net install CD 
> with 11.2.0 . All three have fallen over because of installer bugs.
> 
>    There is currently a Debian 9 system on the laptop that went on 
> without difficulty.
> 
> Am trying to install it to an external hard disk so it can be tested and 
> debugged without much damage to the running Debian 9 system.
> 
> The Debian 11.2.0 net install CD is the unofficial one with non free 
> firmware. Good to have all the drivers in one go.
> It comes straight off the Debian website, is unmodified and is on a CD.
> 
> Where/how do I get one that works please ?
> 
> An alternate plan is to install from a Debian 10 net inst CD, non free, 
> amd64. This one went on to another machine without difficulty . Then 
> wait and see whether the Debian 12 installer is any better.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> C.T.F. Jansen, ZL2TTS


What is the model of the Asus computer?  What model CPU?  How much RAM? 
  What is the make, model, and size of the external disk?  What is the 
connection between the computer and the external disk?  Are you certain 
that the computer port (USB?) is good, the cable is good, the external 
disk is good, and the external disk power adapter is good?  What are the 
source URL's and the file names of the Debian Installer images that you 
downloaded?  Did you verify the checksum of the images?  Did you verify 
the burned DVD's against the downloaded images?  What are the steps 
required to reproduce the installer bugs?


David

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