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Why is systemd starting Firefox?

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First post2022-01-23 20:00 +0100
Last post2022-01-25 11:10 +0100
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  Why is systemd starting Firefox? local10 <local10@tutanota.com> - 2022-01-23 20:00 +0100
    Re: Why is systemd starting Firefox? songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2022-01-23 20:40 +0100
      Re: Why is systemd starting Firefox? local10 <local10@tutanota.com> - 2022-01-23 21:40 +0100
        Re: Why is systemd starting Firefox? "sp007@caiway.net" <sp007@caiway.net> - 2022-06-05 08:10 +0200
    Re: Why is systemd starting Firefox? "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2022-01-24 00:40 +0100
      Re: Why is systemd starting Firefox? local10 <local10@tutanota.com> - 2022-01-24 01:10 +0100
        Re: Why is systemd starting Firefox? Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2022-01-24 01:40 +0100
        Re: Why is systemd starting Firefox? Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2022-01-24 01:40 +0100
        Re: Why is systemd starting Firefox? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2022-01-25 11:10 +0100

#244436 — Why is systemd starting Firefox?

Fromlocal10 <local10@tutanota.com>
Date2022-01-23 20:00 +0100
SubjectWhy is systemd starting Firefox?
Message-ID<DIQfO-3rf-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi,

Based on the log records (see below) it looks like systemd is regularly starting Firefox. I don't recall setting up anything like that, so why is systemd doing it?

Thanks

# cat /var/log/syslog
...
Jan 23 06:31:37 test systemd[922]: Started Firefox ESR - Web Browser.
...
Jan 23 06:31:53 test systemd[922]: app-firefox\x2desr-bcb63a3a10404a7fa8443768412b385a.scope: Succeeded.
Jan 23 06:31:53 test systemd[922]: app-firefox\x2desr-bcb63a3a10404a7fa8443768412b385a.scope: Consumed 4.746s CPU time.
Jan 23 08:05:28 test systemd[922]: app-firefox\x2desr-512a87e34cb047e0ace37d7988d04f1b.scope: Succeeded.
Jan 23 08:05:28 test systemd[922]: app-firefox\x2desr-512a87e34cb047e0ace37d7988d04f1b.scope: Consumed 2h 43min 45.540s CPU time.
Jan 23 08:05:31 test systemd[922]: Started Firefox ESR - Web Browser.
...
Jan 23 09:42:17 test dbus-daemon[430]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.hostname1' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service' requested by ':1.829' (uid=1007 pid=53514 comm="/usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -ProfileManager ")
Jan 23 09:43:38 test dbus-daemon[430]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.hostname1' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service' requested by ':1.833' (uid=1007 pid=53514 comm="/usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -ProfileManager ")
...

# systemctl list-units | grep -i firefox


# cat /etc/debian_version && uname -a
11.2
Linux srv07 5.10.0-11-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.92-1 (2022-01-18) x86_64 GNU/Linux

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#244439

Fromsongbird <songbird@anthive.com>
Date2022-01-23 20:40 +0100
Message-ID<DIQSu-3SW-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#244436
  what desktop are you running?

  it may be set up in your desktop to automatically be started.


  songbird

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#244448

Fromlocal10 <local10@tutanota.com>
Date2022-01-23 21:40 +0100
Message-ID<DIROx-4rl-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#244439
Jan 23, 2022, 19:15 by songbird@anthive.com:

> what desktop are you running?
>
>  it may be set up in your desktop to automatically be started.
>

Am using KDE. Don't have any tasks in KDE Autostart.

Regards,

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#248787

From"sp007@caiway.net" <sp007@caiway.net>
Date2022-06-05 08:10 +0200
Message-ID<EuRCx-2Frq-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#244448
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 21:17:50 +0100 (CET)
local10 <local10@tutanota.com> wrote:

> Jan 23, 2022, 19:15 by songbird@anthive.com:
> 
> > what desktop are you running?
> >
> >  it may be set up in your desktop to automatically be started.
> >
> 
> Am using KDE. Don't have any tasks in KDE Autostart.
> 
> Regards,
> 

	[exec] (killall firefox-esr) {killall firefox-esr} </usr/share/iso-flags-png-320x240/cn.png>

This is in my fluxbox menu

I seldom use it nowadays. 

Thanks for the tip

I move the line in another submenu


Thanks for the tip

Arne

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#244466

From"Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com>
Date2022-01-24 00:40 +0100
Message-ID<DIUCJ-689-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#244436
On 23.01.2022 23:36, local10 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Based on the log records (see below) it looks like systemd is regularly starting Firefox. I don't recall setting up anything like that, so why is systemd doing it?
>
> Thanks
>
> # cat /var/log/syslog
> ...
> Jan 23 06:31:37 test systemd[922]: Started Firefox ESR - Web Browser.
> ...
> Jan 23 06:31:53 test systemd[922]: app-firefox\x2desr-bcb63a3a10404a7fa8443768412b385a.scope: Succeeded.
> Jan 23 06:31:53 test systemd[922]: app-firefox\x2desr-bcb63a3a10404a7fa8443768412b385a.scope: Consumed 4.746s CPU time.
> Jan 23 08:05:28 test systemd[922]: app-firefox\x2desr-512a87e34cb047e0ace37d7988d04f1b.scope: Succeeded.
> Jan 23 08:05:28 test systemd[922]: app-firefox\x2desr-512a87e34cb047e0ace37d7988d04f1b.scope: Consumed 2h 43min 45.540s CPU time.
> Jan 23 08:05:31 test systemd[922]: Started Firefox ESR - Web Browser.
> ...
> Jan 23 09:42:17 test dbus-daemon[430]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.hostname1' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service' requested by ':1.829' (uid=1007 pid=53514 comm="/usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -ProfileManager ")
> Jan 23 09:43:38 test dbus-daemon[430]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.hostname1' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service' requested by ':1.833' (uid=1007 pid=53514 comm="/usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -ProfileManager ")
> ...
>
> # systemctl list-units | grep -i firefox
>
>
> # cat /etc/debian_version && uname -a
> 11.2
> Linux srv07 5.10.0-11-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.92-1 (2022-01-18) x86_64 GNU/Linux
firefox-esr is installed on my system (Debian 11 with Xfce) as a dependency.
     $ grep -i "firefox" /var/log/syslog
Returns nothing on my system, but I don't use KDE.

Does this command show anything useful when 'firefox-esr' is running?
     $ systemctl --user status

Systemd's manual describes scopes¹ as special units, so for now I think 
this is how KDE runs and manages applications.
It sure looks suspicious in the logs.


¹ https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.scope.html

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#244471

Fromlocal10 <local10@tutanota.com>
Date2022-01-24 01:10 +0100
Message-ID<DIV5M-6xf-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#244466
Jan 23, 2022, 23:24 by avbetev@gmail.com:

> Does this command show anything useful when 'firefox-esr' is running?
>     $ systemctl --user status
>

There's a few entries like the following:

├─app-firefox\x2desr-dc24162ec3664da890a78fe619b4b1e4.scope 
           │ │ ├─51854 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -ProfileManager
           │ │ ├─54031 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 3 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 5019 -prefMapSize 291459 -jsInit 285716 -parentBuildID 20220105212146 -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 51854 true tab
           │ │ ├─54109 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 4 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 5743 -prefMapSize 291459 -jsInit 285716 -parentBuildID 20220105212146 -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 51854 true tab
           │ │ ├─55941 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -parentBuildID 20220105212146 -prefsLen 5876 -prefMapSize 291459 -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 51854 true rdd



> It sure looks suspicious in the logs.
>

I was puzzled as well.

Regards,

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#244474

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2022-01-24 01:40 +0100
Message-ID<DIVyN-6GG-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#244471

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Hi,

On 2022-01-23 18:50, local10 wrote:
> Jan 23, 2022, 23:24 by avbetev@gmail.com:
> 
>> Does this command show anything useful when 'firefox-esr' is running?
>>     $ systemctl --user status
>>
> 
> There's a few entries like the following:
> 
> ├─app-firefox\x2desr-dc24162ec3664da890a78fe619b4b1e4.scope 
>            │ │ ├─51854 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -ProfileManager
>            │ │ ├─54031 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 3 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 5019 -prefMapSize 291459 -jsInit 285716 -parentBuildID 20220105212146 -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 51854 true tab
>            │ │ ├─54109 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 4 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 5743 -prefMapSize 291459 -jsInit 285716 -parentBuildID 20220105212146 -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 51854 true tab
>            │ │ ├─55941 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -parentBuildID 20220105212146 -prefsLen 5876 -prefMapSize 291459 -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 51854 true rdd
> 
> 
You can use bustle, not sure if it's in Debian (probably yes)
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/bustle/bustle
> 
>> It sure looks suspicious in the logs.
>>
> 
> I was puzzled as well.
> 
> Regards,
> 

-- 
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#244477

FromPolyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com>
Date2022-01-24 01:40 +0100
Message-ID<DIVyN-6GG-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi,

On 2022-01-23 18:50, local10 wrote:
> Jan 23, 2022, 23:24 by avbetev@gmail.com:
> 
>> Does this command show anything useful when 'firefox-esr' is running?
>>     $ systemctl --user status
>>
> 
> There's a few entries like the following:
> 
> ├─app-firefox\x2desr-dc24162ec3664da890a78fe619b4b1e4.scope 
>            │ │ ├─51854 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -ProfileManager
>            │ │ ├─54031 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 3 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 5019 -prefMapSize 291459 -jsInit 285716 -parentBuildID 20220105212146 -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 51854 true tab
>            │ │ ├─54109 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 4 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 5743 -prefMapSize 291459 -jsInit 285716 -parentBuildID 20220105212146 -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 51854 true tab
>            │ │ ├─55941 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -parentBuildID 20220105212146 -prefsLen 5876 -prefMapSize 291459 -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 51854 true rdd
> 
Make a dump of dbusmonitor and you shall get a idea of what's calling
for Firefox.
> 
> 
>> It sure looks suspicious in the logs.
>>
> 
> I was puzzled as well.
> 
> Regards,
> 

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development

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#244576

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2022-01-25 11:10 +0100
Message-ID<DJqVY-Ji-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#244471

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On Lu, 24 ian 22, 00:50:01, local10 wrote:
> Jan 23, 2022, 23:24 by avbetev@gmail.com:
> 
> > Does this command show anything useful when 'firefox-esr' is running?
> >     $ systemctl --user status
> >
> 
> There's a few entries like the following:
> 
> ├─app-firefox\x2desr-dc24162ec3664da890a78fe619b4b1e4.scope 
>            │ │ ├─51854 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -ProfileManager
>            │ │ ├─54031 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 3 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 5019 -prefMapSize 291459 -jsInit 285716 -parentBuildID 20220105212146 -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 51854 true tab
>            │ │ ├─54109 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 4 -isForBrowser -prefsLen 5743 -prefMapSize 291459 -jsInit 285716 -parentBuildID 20220105212146 -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 51854 true tab
>            │ │ ├─55941 /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -parentBuildID 20220105212146 -prefsLen 5876 -prefMapSize 291459 -appdir /usr/lib/firefox-esr/browser 51854 true rdd

The full output is a tree, so you should be able to tell what is 
starting it.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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