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Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?

Started by	"c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com>
First post	2022-01-15 21:50 +0100
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  Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? "c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com> - 2022-01-15 21:50 +0100
    Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2022-01-15 22:00 +0100
      Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? "c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com> - 2022-01-15 23:30 +0100
    Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2022-01-15 22:10 +0100
      Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? "c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com> - 2022-01-15 23:20 +0100
      Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> - 2022-01-15 23:30 +0100
        Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? "c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com> - 2022-01-15 23:40 +0100
        Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2022-01-16 08:10 +0100
    Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? <paulf@quillandmouse.com> - 2022-01-15 23:20 +0100
      Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2022-01-16 20:10 +0100
    Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2022-01-16 09:50 +0100
    Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? A_Man_Without_Clue <love.chaser@gmail.com> - 2022-01-16 09:50 +0100
      WAS: Just curious if there's anybody.... (NOW: Mix n Match??) "c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com> - 2022-01-16 19:40 +0100
      Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? Ralph Katz <ralph@ralphkatz.com> - 2022-01-17 20:30 +0100
        Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? Roland Mueller <roland.em0001@googlemail.com> - 2022-01-17 21:00 +0100
          Re: Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE? "c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com> - 2022-01-17 22:50 +0100

#244028 — Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?

From	"c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com>
Date	2022-01-15 21:50 +0100
Subject	Just curious if there's anybody out there still using LXDE?
Message-ID	<DFY9P-19j-3@gated-at.bofh.it>

Are there any LXDE users STILL out there?

Today, I have been having this discussion on Debian's Reddit about LXDE
and it's future. 

Even though LXDE is DEAD when it comes to development and adding new
features, I just learned today that LXDE just got a update for
LXterminal just a month or so ago. So LXDE is still getting small bug
fixes from time to time. 

I have LXDE installed on a separate user... Meaning I created a new
account and then installed LXDE from that account. So my CHRIS account
is strictly used with GNOME and the LXDE account is strictly used for
LXDE.

I guess that its good to have SOMETHING installed as a backup just in
case Gnome takes a poop.



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Chris

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#244029

From	John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date	2022-01-15 22:00 +0100
Message-ID	<DFYjw-1cK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244028

c. marlow writes:
> Even though LXDE is DEAD when it comes to development and adding new
> features

That *is* a feature.

I have it on my laptop, which I use a few times a year.
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#244035

From	"c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com>
Date	2022-01-15 23:30 +0100
Message-ID	<DFZID-2cY-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244029

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 14:55:11 -0600
John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> wrote:

> > Even though LXDE is DEAD when it comes to development and adding new
> > features  
> 
> That *is* a feature.

Huh?

Or do you mean that as in, LXDE has matured enough to where it doesn't
need new features?




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Chris

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#244030

From	Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk>
Date	2022-01-15 22:10 +0100
Message-ID	<DFYtc-1vm-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244028

On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 14:45 -0600, c. marlow wrote:
> Are there any LXDE users STILL out there?

Yes, it's the desktop environment I use on both my Debian Bullseye
computers. I moved to LXDE when Gnome went to version 3. I tried XFCE
at that time but didn't like it, so went with LXDE.

-- 
Tixy

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#244033

From	"c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com>
Date	2022-01-15 23:20 +0100
Message-ID	<DFZyV-29H-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244030

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 21:08:05 +0000
Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 14:45 -0600, c. marlow wrote:
> > Are there any LXDE users STILL out there?  
> 
> Yes, it's the desktop environment I use on both my Debian Bullseye
> computers. I moved to LXDE when Gnome went to version 3. I tried XFCE
> at that time but didn't like it, so went with LXDE.
> 

WOW! 

I haven't used LXDE much today. I am currently logged into Gnome right
now due to that's where all of my nextcloud files are.. I am going to
have to download them on the LXDE account. 


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Chris

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#244036

From	Bret Busby <bret@busby.net>
Date	2022-01-15 23:30 +0100
Message-ID	<DFZID-2cY-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244030

On 16/1/22 5:08 am, Tixy wrote:
> On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 14:45 -0600, c. marlow wrote:
>> Are there any LXDE users STILL out there?
> 
> Yes, it's the desktop environment I use on both my Debian Bullseye
> computers. I moved to LXDE when Gnome went to version 3. I tried XFCE
> at that time but didn't like it, so went with LXDE.
> 

Had you tried MATE?

I have been using MATE since the gnomes abandoned the users and imposed 
gnome3.

I have MATE configured so that the interface is like  (I believe) gnome 
2 or  MS Win95 or fvwm (as it was back in about 1993).

-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..............

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#244037

From	"c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com>
Date	2022-01-15 23:40 +0100
Message-ID	<DFZSh-2gL-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244036

On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 06:02:58 +0800
Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> wrote:

> On 16/1/22 5:08 am, Tixy wrote:
> > On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 14:45 -0600, c. marlow wrote:  
> >> Are there any LXDE users STILL out there?  
> > 
> > Yes, it's the desktop environment I use on both my Debian Bullseye
> > computers. I moved to LXDE when Gnome went to version 3. I tried
> > XFCE at that time but didn't like it, so went with LXDE.
> >   
> 
> Had you tried MATE?
> 
> I have been using MATE since the gnomes abandoned the users and
> imposed gnome3.
> 
> I have MATE configured so that the interface is like  (I believe)
> gnome 2 or  MS Win95 or fvwm (as it was back in about 1993).
> 


Yes, MATE is a favorite of mine :) 


====================
Thanks,
Chris

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#244044

From	Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk>
Date	2022-01-16 08:10 +0100
Message-ID	<DG7PP-7w3-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244036

On Sun, 2022-01-16 at 06:02 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 16/1/22 5:08 am, Tixy wrote:
> > On Sat, 2022-01-15 at 14:45 -0600, c. marlow wrote:
> > > Are there any LXDE users STILL out there?
> > 
> > Yes, it's the desktop environment I use on both my Debian Bullseye
> > computers. I moved to LXDE when Gnome went to version 3. I tried
> > XFCE
> > at that time but didn't like it, so went with LXDE.
> > 
> 
> Had you tried MATE?

I haven't. LXDE suits my purpose so have no reason to try other
desktops. But should LXDE removed from Debian, or get some annoying
bugs, I'll add MATE to the list to try.

-- 
Tixy

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#244034

From	<paulf@quillandmouse.com>
Date	2022-01-15 23:20 +0100
Message-ID	<DFZyW-29H-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244028

On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 14:45:04 -0600
"c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com> wrote:

> Are there any LXDE users STILL out there?
> 
> Today, I have been having this discussion on Debian's Reddit about
> LXDE and it's future. 
> 
> Even though LXDE is DEAD when it comes to development and adding new
> features, I just learned today that LXDE just got a update for
> LXterminal just a month or so ago. So LXDE is still getting small bug
> fixes from time to time. 
> 
> I have LXDE installed on a separate user... Meaning I created a new
> account and then installed LXDE from that account. So my CHRIS account
> is strictly used with GNOME and the LXDE account is strictly used for
> LXDE.
> 
> I guess that its good to have SOMETHING installed as a backup just in
> case Gnome takes a poop.
> 

I used to use it, as it was one of the "slimest" desktops and I don't
want a lot of graphical glitz. Then I found and switched to i3, and now
I use LXDE as a backup, in case i3 takes a dump or something.

There are probably a lot more packages like this out there. I use MOC
for playing music, and I don't think it's been updated (upstream) in
years.

Paul

-- 
Paul M. Foster
http://noferblatz.com
http://quillandmouse.com

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#244071

From	Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date	2022-01-16 20:10 +0100
Message-ID	<DGj4D-6pL-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244034

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On Sb, 15 ian 22, 17:13:55, paulf@quillandmouse.com wrote:
> 
> There are probably a lot more packages like this out there. I use MOC
> for playing music, and I don't think it's been updated (upstream) in
> years.

The versions in Debian seem to confirm this (just a few commits between 
oldoldstable, oldstable and stable), however the libraries doing the 
heavy lifting were (hopefully) updated, as they are meant to deal with 
potentially untrusted input files.

$ rmadison moc
moc        | 1:2.5.0-1           | oldoldoldstable | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386
moc        | 1:2.6.0~svn-r2935-1 | oldoldstable    | source, amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
moc        | 1:2.6.0~svn-r2994-3 | oldstable       | source, amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
moc        | 1:2.6.0~svn-r3005-1 | stable          | source, amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
moc        | 1:2.6.0~svn-r3005-1 | testing         | source, amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
moc        | 1:2.6.0~svn-r3005-1 | unstable        | source, amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
moc        | 1:2.6.0~svn-r3005-1 | unstable-debug  | source

Kind regards,
Andrei
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#244046

From	Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date	2022-01-16 09:50 +0100
Message-ID	<DG9oC-8ho-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244028

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On Sb, 15 ian 22, 14:45:04, c. marlow wrote:
> Are there any LXDE users STILL out there?

Yes, I'm using it on my current daily driver at home.
 
> Today, I have been having this discussion on Debian's Reddit about LXDE
> and it's future. 
> 
> Even though LXDE is DEAD when it comes to development and adding new
> features, I just learned today that LXDE just got a update for
> LXterminal just a month or so ago. So LXDE is still getting small bug
> fixes from time to time. 

Sadly I'm not aware of an OpenBox equivalent for Wayland, so it's still 
fully dependent on X11.

Any developments on this front?

Kind regards,
Andrei
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#244047

From	A_Man_Without_Clue <love.chaser@gmail.com>
Date	2022-01-16 09:50 +0100
Message-ID	<DG9oC-8ho-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244028


On 1/16/22 05:45, c. marlow wrote:
> Are there any LXDE users STILL out there?
> 
> Today, I have been having this discussion on Debian's Reddit about LXDE
> and it's future.
> 
> Even though LXDE is DEAD when it comes to development and adding new
> features, I just learned today that LXDE just got a update for
> LXterminal just a month or so ago. So LXDE is still getting small bug
> fixes from time to time.
> 
> I have LXDE installed on a separate user... Meaning I created a new
> account and then installed LXDE from that account. So my CHRIS account
> is strictly used with GNOME and the LXDE account is strictly used for
> LXDE.
> 
> I guess that its good to have SOMETHING installed as a backup just in
> case Gnome takes a poop.
> 
> 
> 
> ====================
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> If you need to email me off list, please use chris@cwm030.com
> 
> Debian 11
> Gnome 3
> 

LXDE is my main everyday use desktop. Simply because it is the lightest DE.

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#244065 — WAS: Just curious if there's anybody.... (NOW: Mix n Match??)

From	"c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com>
Date	2022-01-16 19:40 +0100
Subject	WAS: Just curious if there's anybody.... (NOW: Mix n Match??)
Message-ID	<DGiBB-5Yx-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244047

I am wondering do ya'll mix and match your DE's?

I feel like if I was using plain LXDE,( as in installed as the BASE DE)
It just seems like LXDE didn't come with a lot of apps to choose from. 

I ran this command: ( This is coming from the Deb website):

A complete Debian LXDE desktop environment (starting from Debian 7.0
"Wheezy"):

# apt install task-lxde-desktop



Did I install LXDE wrong on top of gnome? 



My system has Gnome ( as the base) and now LXDE. 

I do use a few Gnome programs in LXDE like:

Clocks, 

Calculator,
 
Screenshot, 

Text Editor (I am guessing that
Mousepad is LXDE's Text Editor? 

Image Viewer

Calendar

Just to name a few. :)

====================
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Chris

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#244134

From	Ralph Katz <ralph@ralphkatz.com>
Date	2022-01-17 20:30 +0100
Message-ID	<DGFRv-4CF-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244047

On 1/17/22 04:15, franiortiz wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 05:46:57PM +0900, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1/16/22 05:45, c. marlow wrote:
>>> Are there any LXDE users STILL out there?
>>>
>>> Today, I have been having this discussion on Debian's Reddit about LXDE
>>> and it's future.
>>>
>>> Even though LXDE is DEAD when it comes to development and adding new
>>> features, I just learned today that LXDE just got a update for
>>> LXterminal just a month or so ago. So LXDE is still getting small bug
>>> fixes from time to time.
>>>
>>> I have LXDE installed on a separate user... Meaning I created a new
>>> account and then installed LXDE from that account. So my CHRIS account
>>> is strictly used with GNOME and the LXDE account is strictly used for
>>> LXDE.
> 
> Yep, here other user on lxde since a lot years
> Lxde is better-lighter desktop for newbie user and old pc
> I hope that lxde continue in repo for a lot  time.
>
LXDE clearly declining in popularity since 2018 peak:

https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=lxde-metapackages

Compare, for example to xfce4:

https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=xfce4

Regards,
Ralph

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#244135

From	Roland Mueller <roland.em0001@googlemail.com>
Date	2022-01-17 21:00 +0100
Message-ID	<DGGky-4Xy-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244134

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Hello,

ma 17. tammik. 2022 klo 21.22 Ralph Katz (ralph@ralphkatz.com) kirjoitti:

>
> >
> LXDE clearly declining in popularity since 2018 peak:
>
> https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=lxde-metapackages


Not sure whether one can already begin to organize funeral for lxde. There
is a new variant of lxde based on Qt instead Gtk.

https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=lxqt-metapackages

BR,
Roland


>
>

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#244142

From	"c. marlow" <debian@cwm030.com>
Date	2022-01-17 22:50 +0100
Message-ID	<DGI30-69l-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#244135

On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 21:52:12 +0200
Roland Mueller <roland.em0001@googlemail.com> wrote:

> 
> Not sure whether one can already begin to organize funeral for lxde.
> There is a new variant of lxde based on Qt instead Gtk.

NO THANK YOU to LXQT... If I want to use KDE, then I'll nuke and pave
and install KDE. 

I tried LXQT on Lubuntu and hated it. The icon themes suck all the way
around. I cant stand Papirus. 

And actually, LXDE is still alive.. It's even still getting updates for
some of the apps. A few of the team members didn't want to see LXDE
die, so they refused to move over to LXQT. 

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