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| Started by | "Paul M. Foster" <paulf@quillandmouse.com> |
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| First post | 2022-01-05 14:40 +0100 |
| Last post | 2022-01-05 21:20 +0100 |
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Thunderbird not allowing local accounts "Paul M. Foster" <paulf@quillandmouse.com> - 2022-01-05 14:40 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2022-01-05 15:20 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts "Paul M. Foster" <paulf@quillandmouse.com> - 2022-01-05 15:50 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2022-01-05 18:00 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts <paulf@quillandmouse.com> - 2022-01-05 19:40 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2022-01-05 21:50 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts conover@rahul.net (John Conover) - 2022-01-05 21:50 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2022-01-05 22:20 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2022-01-06 08:40 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2022-01-06 16:30 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts <paulf@quillandmouse.com> - 2022-01-06 21:10 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2022-01-06 16:30 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2022-02-07 03:20 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts rhkramer@gmail.com - 2022-01-06 02:30 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-01-06 09:30 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2022-01-06 15:00 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2022-01-05 19:50 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2022-01-06 11:50 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2022-01-06 15:00 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2022-01-08 08:00 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts "Bob Crochelt" <rfc56@fastmail.com> - 2022-01-08 15:40 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2022-01-06 09:50 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts didier.gaumet@gmail.com - 2022-01-06 10:20 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2022-01-05 20:30 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2022-01-05 21:10 +0100
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2022-01-05 21:20 +0100
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| From | "Bob Crochelt" <rfc56@fastmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-01-08 15:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DDl2X-46O-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243820 |
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John, thanks for this. Seems to work here as well Bob C. On Fri, Jan 7, 2022, at 22:37, John Crawley wrote: > On 06/01/2022 03:26, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022 09:44:24 -0500 > > "Paul M. Foster" <paulf@quillandmouse.com> wrote: > > > >> Can anyone recommend another MUA which uses mbox format and is > >> relatively easy to configure? > > > > Claws-mail and mutt for two. > > > > Or, if you want to stick with your investment in Thunderbird, use > > dovecot to set up a local imap server. > > This issue hit me this morning too. With a huge decades-long investment in TB. > Much websearching later, discovered that setting up dovecot as a local imap server is nowhere as complicated as it looks [1]. > > Just install dovecot-imapd + dependencies > It's configured by default to do exactly what's needed here (serve /var/mail<username>). > > Then set up a new imap account on Thunderbird: > > name and email address <username>@<hostname> > > Server Type: IMAP Mail Server > Server Name: localhost, Port: 143 > User Name: <username> > Connection security: None > Authentication method: Password, transmitted insecurely > > It seems to be working now. Just have to wait to see if it fetches new messages as they arrive... > > [1] https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2089364&sid=3a7ead4db70a4207632405a9aa06dc59#p2089364 > > -- > John > >
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| From | didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2022-01-06 09:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DCwD7-5On-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243714 |
Le mercredi 05 janvier 2022 à 09:44 -0500, Paul M. Foster a écrit : > > Can anyone recommend another MUA which uses mbox format and is > relatively easy to configure? > > Paul Hello Paul, For GUI MUAs, others have suggested Claws-mail (with the mbox plgin, by default Claws only manages MH mailboxes) and I confirm it can do what you want. A problem is that certain MUAs (Balsa, Geary, etc...) manage Mbox mailboxes but cannot associate a Mbox with a true local account (/var/mail/...) or do this with severe limitations. Confronted like you to Thunderbird changes (integrated OpenPGP instead of gpg standard integration, and now movemail management suppression...), I chose Evolution and do not regret it: I find it to be slighty better, with the only drawback of NNTP, still perfectible For CLI/TUI MUAs, I think they are all genuine MUAs, designed to cope with /var/mail Mbox mailboxes Cheers :-)
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| From | didier.gaumet@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2022-01-06 10:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DCwWu-6b1-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243753 |
Le jeudi 06 janvier 2022 à 09:40 +0100, didier gaumet a écrit : [...] > For CLI/TUI MUAs, > I think they are all genuine MUAs, designed to cope with /var/mail > Mbox > mailboxes Correction, they are almost all designed to cope with Mbox, but for example mh/nmh/mmh are not (MH mailboxes)
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| From | "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> |
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| Date | 2022-01-05 20:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DCk8V-6B9-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243708 |
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022, at 13:35, Paul M. Foster wrote: > Folks: > > I just restarted my machine, and am using Thunderbird 91.4.1 (the > latest) 64 bit on Debian 11. I didn't reinstall Thunderbird or upgrade > it... I've never used TB so these questions might be crazy ... Is TB able to import a set of mails stored in a folder somewhere else on a machine? If it is, is that able to be scheduled somehow - eg via cron? Does TB have filter capabilities that affect what happens with mails as they're imported, perhaps separately from mails that are fetched from somewhere? If those work, would one need a separate mechanism to get the mails currently accumulating in "mail spool" or wherever into (exported?) a folder from which the import could pick them up? I know that if this affected me I'd be hugely upset having to consider abandoning one MUA and learning all the ins&outs of another one, and would - in the short term anyway - prefer to find some way of making TB still see the mails concerned. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.
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| From | Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> |
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| Date | 2022-01-05 21:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DCkLE-72Z-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243735 |
Jeremy Nicoll wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jan 2022, at 13:35, Paul M. Foster wrote: > > Folks: > > > > I just restarted my machine, and am using Thunderbird 91.4.1 (the > > latest) 64 bit on Debian 11. I didn't reinstall Thunderbird or upgrade > > it... > > I've never used TB so these questions might be crazy ... > > Is TB able to import a set of mails stored in a folder somewhere > else on a machine? That's the capability that appears to have gone away. > Does TB have filter capabilities that affect what happens with > mails as they're imported, perhaps separately from mails > that are fetched from somewhere? Yes. > If those work, would one need a separate mechanism to get > the mails currently accumulating in "mail spool" or wherever > into (exported?) a folder from which the import could pick > them up? As previously mentioned, the mechanism for that is now "set up dovecot or another IMAP server". -dsr-
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| From | "Jeremy Nicoll" <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> |
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| Date | 2022-01-05 21:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DCkVj-76q-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #243737 |
On Wed, 5 Jan 2022, at 19:52, Dan Ritter wrote: > Jeremy Nicoll wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Jan 2022, at 13:35, Paul M. Foster wrote: >> > Folks: >> > >> > I just restarted my machine, and am using Thunderbird 91.4.1 (the >> > latest) 64 bit on Debian 11. I didn't reinstall Thunderbird or upgrade >> > it... >> >> I've never used TB so these questions might be crazy ... >> >> Is TB able to import a set of mails stored in a folder somewhere >> else on a machine? > > That's the capability that appears to have gone away. Well, I said I'd not used TB. But on another client I used to use (until its author stopped maintaining it) these were separate facilities. One could define a mail account from which mails would be fetched, but they'd just be read from a folder. I did use that, when migrating from a client on a separate OS; that OS separated mail fetch from mail debatch so while still using that client on its own OS I spun off duplicate sets of incoming mails and had the new client debatch from those folders. Only once I was certain I had the new client working satisfactorily did I update it to fetch direct from mail servers and stop using the local folder source. Separately at any time one could manually do an import of mails from some place. Clearly the latter facility had to exist so that people could move mail from one mail client to another. In this situation I'd wonder if for example one could start TB from the commandline telling it to import from a folder, though that might not work if TB is already running. I'd also consider using some screen automation utility to automate the otherwise manual process of initiating an import via TB's menus. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.
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