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  Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97 Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-01-05 15:20 +0100
    Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97 Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-01-05 16:30 +0100
      Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97 David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2022-01-05 17:10 +0100
        Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2022-01-05 18:20 +0100
          Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97 Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-01-05 19:00 +0100
    Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97 Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2022-01-05 17:20 +0100
      Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97 Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-01-05 18:00 +0100
    Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97 Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2022-01-05 18:10 +0100
    Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97 Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2022-01-05 18:20 +0100
      Re: Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97 Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2022-01-20 13:30 +0100

#243711 — Dragging tabs in Google Chrome 97

This morning, I did my normal apt-get update/upgrade, and this brought
in a new version of google-chrome-stable

ii  google-chrome-stable 97.0.4692.71-1 amd64        The web browser from Google

After restarting in the new version of Chrome, I am unable to move
tabs around within a window.  Any attempt to drag a tab to the left or
the right immediately causes the creation of a new window, with the
tab that I was trying to move inside the new window.

>From there, if I right-click the offending tab inside the new window,
there's an option to "Move tab to a new window".  I can use this to
send the tab back to its original window -- but now it's on the far
right.

I googled (ironically) the problem, and of course because Chrome 97 is
so new, there are no useful pages in the search results yet.  The nearest
I found were some older reports of similar issues.

One thread reported this happening under Xwayland.  I am not running
Wayland.  Pure X11.

Another thread reported this happening if a hardware device (such as a
keyboard, microphone, or audio headset) was sending events.  I ran xev
to verify that there were no incoming events.  I also tried unplugging
and re-plugging my USB keyboard.  I finally tried unplugging my USB
microphone/camera.  Neither of those helped.

(While re-plugging the USB mic/camera, I accidentally pressed the power
button and turned my computer off.  I'm pleased to report that the GRUB
issue I had last time I booted did not occur this time -- the keyboard
worked in GRUB, and I was able to reboot without a 2 minute wait.  Sadly,
the reboot did not fix the Chrome tab dragging issue.)

I know this isn't the *best* place to ask for help with proprietary
browsers, but this is a pretty popular one, so there's a chance.  Has
anyone else encountered this problem?  More importantly, does anyone
know how to *fix* it?

Being unable to rearrange tabs in a sane manner is EXTREMELY irritating.

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#243716

On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 09:14:07AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> This morning, I did my normal apt-get update/upgrade, and this brought
> in a new version of google-chrome-stable
> 
> ii  google-chrome-stable 97.0.4692.71-1 amd64        The web browser from Google
> 
> After restarting in the new version of Chrome, I am unable to move
> tabs around within a window.  Any attempt to drag a tab to the left or
> the right immediately causes the creation of a new window, with the
> tab that I was trying to move inside the new window.

I've discovered another symptom, and I'm assuming it's related.

One of the games that I play in Chrome is an incremental called Evolve
<https://pmotschmann.github.io/Evolve/>.  This game uses Javascript
heavily, and allows dragging and dropping various things within the
game, in order to rearrange work queues and so forth.

As of this morning's update, dragging and dropping items in this game
doesn't work either.  The dragging part appears to work correctly, as
far as I can tell -- there is visual feedback that a thing is being
moved as I drag with the mouse.  But when I release the button to "drop"
the thing, it simply goes back to its original position.  No rearranging
occurs.

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#243719

On Wed 05 Jan 2022 at 10:25:38 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 09:14:07AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > This morning, I did my normal apt-get update/upgrade, and this brought
> > in a new version of google-chrome-stable
> > 
> > ii  google-chrome-stable 97.0.4692.71-1 amd64        The web browser from Google
> > 
> > After restarting in the new version of Chrome, I am unable to move
> > tabs around within a window.  Any attempt to drag a tab to the left or
> > the right immediately causes the creation of a new window, with the
> > tab that I was trying to move inside the new window.
> 
> I've discovered another symptom, and I'm assuming it's related.
> 
> One of the games that I play in Chrome is an incremental called Evolve
> <https://pmotschmann.github.io/Evolve/>.  This game uses Javascript
> heavily, and allows dragging and dropping various things within the
> game, in order to rearrange work queues and so forth.
> 
> As of this morning's update, dragging and dropping items in this game
> doesn't work either.  The dragging part appears to work correctly, as
> far as I can tell -- there is visual feedback that a thing is being
> moved as I drag with the mouse.  But when I release the button to "drop"
> the thing, it simply goes back to its original position.  No rearranging
> occurs.

Not to say it's relevant or irrelevant, but that's the behaviour of
dragging any image in FF: let go and it puts it back where it was.
What I don't know is whether an item that's drag-AND-droppable has
to be marked in some way, which could be missing; or whether it's
just the dropping mechanism that's broken.

Cheers,
David.

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#243727

On 2022-01-05, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> As of this morning's update, dragging and dropping items in this game
>> doesn't work either.  The dragging part appears to work correctly, as
>> far as I can tell -- there is visual feedback that a thing is being
>> moved as I drag with the mouse.  But when I release the button to "drop"
>> the thing, it simply goes back to its original position.  No rearranging
>> occurs.
>
> Not to say it's relevant or irrelevant, but that's the behaviour of
> dragging any image in FF: let go and it puts it back where it was.
> What I don't know is whether an item that's drag-AND-droppable has
> to be marked in some way, which could be missing; or whether it's
> just the dropping mechanism that's broken.

I just updated my Chrome to 97 but am not seeing the behavior Greg is.
He could try the usual stuff, like "Reset settings" in Settings,
verifying if the problem occurs in incognito mode or with another
profile, disabling extensions, etc. Or even maybe exploring the
possibility of a hardware snafu with the keyboard and/or mouse.

> Cheers, David.
>
>

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#243731

On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 05:16:27PM -0000, Curt wrote:
> On 2022-01-05, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> >> 
> >> As of this morning's update, dragging and dropping items in this game
> >> doesn't work either.  The dragging part appears to work correctly, as
> >> far as I can tell -- there is visual feedback that a thing is being
> >> moved as I drag with the mouse.  But when I release the button to "drop"
> >> the thing, it simply goes back to its original position.  No rearranging
> >> occurs.
> >
> > Not to say it's relevant or irrelevant, but that's the behaviour of
> > dragging any image in FF: let go and it puts it back where it was.
> > What I don't know is whether an item that's drag-AND-droppable has
> > to be marked in some way, which could be missing; or whether it's
> > just the dropping mechanism that's broken.
> 
> I just updated my Chrome to 97 but am not seeing the behavior Greg is.
> He could try the usual stuff, like "Reset settings" in Settings,
> verifying if the problem occurs in incognito mode or with another
> profile, disabling extensions, etc. Or even maybe exploring the
> possibility of a hardware snafu with the keyboard and/or mouse.

Based on the results of my earlier Google searches, I tried incognito
mode (no luck), disabling extensions (no luck), and unplugging/replugging
my USB keyboard (no luck).

I did not try a new profile, nor did I try resetting all settings, the
latter of which sounds horribly destructive.

Another post in this thread claimed that the bug may be related to using
"system title bars and borders", which I am doing.  However, disabling
that and then restarting Chrome does not fix it.  So there's some other
piece involved.

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#243720

On 1/5/22, Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:
> This morning, I did my normal apt-get update/upgrade, and this brought
> in a new version of google-chrome-stable
>
> ii  google-chrome-stable 97.0.4692.71-1 amd64        The web browser from
> Google
>
> After restarting in the new version of Chrome, I am unable to move
> tabs around within a window.  Any attempt to drag a tab to the left or
> the right immediately causes the creation of a new window, with the
> tab that I was trying to move inside the new window.
>
> >From there, if I right-click the offending tab inside the new window,
> there's an option to "Move tab to a new window".  I can use this to
> send the tab back to its original window -- but now it's on the far
> right.
>
> I googled (ironically) the problem, and of course because Chrome 97 is
> so new, there are no useful pages in the search results yet.  The nearest
> I found were some older reports of similar issues.


I don't have answers toward a permanent resolution but still wanted to
suggest that CTRL+SHIFT+[pageUP/pageDOWN] works for me to
alternatively move tabs around one position at a time. Am hoping that
also works (universally) in Chrome, too.

That's my go-to route when I experience similar issues with the tabs
detaching. In my case, it's about elderly shaky fingers (Human error),
low computer memory, and such that cause that highly aggravating issue
here. :)


> I know this isn't the *best* place to ask for help with proprietary
> browsers, but this is a pretty popular one, so there's a chance.  Has
> anyone else encountered this problem?  More importantly, does anyone
> know how to *fix* it?
>
> Being unable to rearrange tabs in a sane manner is EXTREMELY irritating.


Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
* runs with birdseed *

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#243722

On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 11:13:46AM -0500, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> I don't have answers toward a permanent resolution but still wanted to
> suggest that CTRL+SHIFT+[pageUP/pageDOWN] works for me to
> alternatively move tabs around one position at a time. Am hoping that
> also works (universally) in Chrome, too.

Thanks!  That will do nicely as a workaround.  It's sure as hell better
than having to put all the *rest* of the tabs into a new window and then
move them back to the original window.

I wonder if there's any documentation in the world that describes all
of these magic key combos that browsers use, or if they're all handed
down by word of mouth like this.

(Won't help me in my incremental game, but that's OK.)

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#243724

Greg Wooledge wrote: 
> This morning, I did my normal apt-get update/upgrade, and this brought
> in a new version of google-chrome-stable
> 
> ii  google-chrome-stable 97.0.4692.71-1 amd64        The web browser from Google
> 
> After restarting in the new version of Chrome, I am unable to move
> tabs around within a window.  Any attempt to drag a tab to the left or
> the right immediately causes the creation of a new window, with the
> tab that I was trying to move inside the new window.
> 
> I googled (ironically) the problem, and of course because Chrome 97 is
> so new, there are no useful pages in the search results yet.  The nearest
> I found were some older reports of similar issues.

I see reports now from Ubuntu and Manjaro, so I'm pretty sure
this is Google's issue. Downgrading to

https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_96.0.4664.110-1_amd64.deb

is reported to work. Eventually, presumably, Google will fix it.

-dsr-

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#243726

Greg Wooledge wrote: 
> This morning, I did my normal apt-get update/upgrade, and this brought
> in a new version of google-chrome-stable
> 
> ii  google-chrome-stable 97.0.4692.71-1 amd64        The web browser from Google
> 

quoting from
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1279532&q=tab%20move&can=2

> Stable (96.0.4664.110): Works as expected tabs can be dragged
> out and dragged back to window.
> Beta (97.0.4692.45): Bug occurs if using system title and
> borders, disabling them makes tab work as expected.
> Dev (98.0.4750.0):  Bug occurs if using system title and
> borders, disabling them makes tab work as expected.
> 
> Not in the video but also tested was KDE Neo (dev version), were
> bug occurs regard regardless of system title and borders being
> enabled.
> 
> So recapping:
> * Bug is present in both Gnome and KDE Plasma
> * It's not a Dev branch bug but a beta branch one
> * It always affects KDE Plasma, but will only affect Gnome when
> * using system title bar and borders

In this case, beta means 97, which is now the stable release.

They'll have to solve it in Chrome.

-dsr-

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#244233

On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 11:54:22AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Greg Wooledge wrote: 
> > This morning, I did my normal apt-get update/upgrade, and this brought
> > in a new version of google-chrome-stable
> > 
> > ii  google-chrome-stable 97.0.4692.71-1 amd64        The web browser from Google
> > 
> 
> quoting from
> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1279532&q=tab%20move&can=2
> 
> > Stable (96.0.4664.110): Works as expected tabs can be dragged
> > out and dragged back to window.
> > Beta (97.0.4692.45): Bug occurs if using system title and
> > borders, disabling them makes tab work as expected.
> > Dev (98.0.4750.0):  Bug occurs if using system title and
> > borders, disabling them makes tab work as expected.

They released a fix today.

Unpacking google-chrome-stable (97.0.4692.99-1) over (97.0.4692.71-1) ...

I can rearrange tabs with the mouse again, and drag-and-drop inside a
window also works correctly.

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