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How exactly do I create a Debian live USB?

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First post2021-10-11 12:40 +0200
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  How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 12:40 +0200
    Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-11 13:00 +0200
      Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 13:20 +0200
        Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 13:50 +0200
          Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 14:00 +0200
      Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 13:50 +0200
        Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-11 14:40 +0200
          Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-11 14:50 +0200
            Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-10-11 15:00 +0200
            Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 15:30 +0200
              Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-10-11 16:10 +0200
                Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-10-11 16:30 +0200
              Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 18:30 +0200
                Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2021-10-12 00:10 +0200
                  Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-12 08:50 +0200
              Re: Choosing a DE (was: How exactly do I create a Debian...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-10-11 19:20 +0200
                Re: Choosing a DE (was: How exactly do I create a Debian...) deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-10-11 21:10 +0200
      Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 14:30 +0200
        Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-10-11 18:40 +0200
    Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Sean Behan <seanwbehan@riseup.net> - 2021-10-12 02:40 +0200
      Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Махно <mindaugasceliesius@gmail.com> - 2021-10-12 14:10 +0200
        Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-12 17:00 +0200
          Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Махно <mindaugasceliesius@gmail.com> - 2021-10-13 15:40 +0200

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#241167 — How exactly do I create a Debian live USB?

Fromkaye n <guikaye@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-11 12:40 +0200
SubjectHow exactly do I create a Debian live USB?
Message-ID<D70SR-15i-1@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Hello Friends!

I did this and was able to boot my newly created Debian 11 live USB but was
stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc.

Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the USB
stick in fat32.

Then I used these commands

sudo cp  debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb
sync

All seemed fine until I booted the live USB and got the error message as
stated above.

Thank you for your time.

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#241169

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2021-10-11 13:00 +0200
Message-ID<D71ce-1bM-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241167
Hi,

kaye n wrote:
> Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the USB
> stick in fat32.

This is not necessary and will be overwritten by your next step:

> sudo cp  debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb
> sync

This is a correct procedure and is supposed to do what is needed.
The fact that booting works confirms that you did it right.

> stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc.

Maybe your USB stick is not good.
Do you get i/o errors when you read the whole stick by:

  dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null

(Depending on size and speed of the stick this can last long.
 If your dd is young enough you get entertaining progress messages by
 adding two more options:

   dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync
)

If the stick is not plain bad, then you will have to show the messages
which you see when booting gets stuck. Either as hand-copied text or
as screen photo which you upload to some site like pastebin.com. In
the latter case post a link to your uploaded photo.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#241173

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-11 13:20 +0200
Message-ID<D71vz-1xl-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Lu, 11 oct 21, 12:56:28, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> kaye n wrote:
> > Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the USB
> > stick in fat32.
> 
> This is not necessary and will be overwritten by your next step:
> 
> > sudo cp  debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb
> > sync
> 
> This is a correct procedure and is supposed to do what is needed.
> The fact that booting works confirms that you did it right.
> 
> > stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc.
> 
> Maybe your USB stick is not good.
> Do you get i/o errors when you read the whole stick by:
> 
>   dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null
> 
> (Depending on size and speed of the stick this can last long.
>  If your dd is young enough you get entertaining progress messages by
>  adding two more options:
> 
>    dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync
> )
> 
> If the stick is not plain bad, then you will have to show the messages
> which you see when booting gets stuck. Either as hand-copied text or
> as screen photo which you upload to some site like pastebin.com. In
> the latter case post a link to your uploaded photo.

In addition to what Thomas wrote, you might also want to try the live 
image including firmware.

https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/

It's unlikely to fix whatever I/O errors you encountered, but it might 
help with other issues you didn't encounter yet ;)


Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#241176

Fromkaye n <guikaye@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-11 13:50 +0200
Message-ID<D71YB-1Hx-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 7:14 PM Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Lu, 11 oct 21, 12:56:28, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > kaye n wrote:
> > > Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the
> USB
> > > stick in fat32.
> >
> > This is not necessary and will be overwritten by your next step:
> >
> > > sudo cp  debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb
> > > sync
> >
> > This is a correct procedure and is supposed to do what is needed.
> > The fact that booting works confirms that you did it right.
> >
> > > stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc.
> >
> > Maybe your USB stick is not good.
> > Do you get i/o errors when you read the whole stick by:
> >
> >   dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null
> >
> > (Depending on size and speed of the stick this can last long.
> >  If your dd is young enough you get entertaining progress messages by
> >  adding two more options:
> >
> >    dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync
> > )
> >
> > If the stick is not plain bad, then you will have to show the messages
> > which you see when booting gets stuck. Either as hand-copied text or
> > as screen photo which you upload to some site like pastebin.com. In
> > the latter case post a link to your uploaded photo.
>
> In addition to what Thomas wrote, you might also want to try the live
> image including firmware.
>
>
> https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/
>
> It's unlikely to fix whatever I/O errors you encountered, but it might
> help with other issues you didn't encounter yet ;)
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> --
> http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser


Andrei are you suggesting I use either of the two found here?

https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/11.1.0-live+nonfree/amd64/

What's the difference between

bt-hybrid/
and
iso-hybrid/

Thank you

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#241179

FromDavid <bouncingcats@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-11 14:00 +0200
Message-ID<D728i-1KZ-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241176
On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 22:46, kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Andrei are you suggesting I use either of the two found here?
>
> https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/11.1.0-live+nonfree/amd64/
>
> What's the difference between
>
> bt-hybrid/
> and
> iso-hybrid/

If you point your browser to those directories then
you can read the pages there that answer your question.

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#241175

Fromkaye n <guikaye@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-11 13:50 +0200
Message-ID<D71YB-1Hx-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 6:56 PM Thomas Schmitt <scdbackup@gmx.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> kaye n wrote:
> > Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the USB
> > stick in fat32.
>
> This is not necessary and will be overwritten by your next step:
>
> > sudo cp  debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb
> > sync
>
> This is a correct procedure and is supposed to do what is needed.
> The fact that booting works confirms that you did it right.
>
> > stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc.
>
> Maybe your USB stick is not good.
> Do you get i/o errors when you read the whole stick by:
>
>   dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null
>
> (Depending on size and speed of the stick this can last long.
>  If your dd is young enough you get entertaining progress messages by
>  adding two more options:
>
>    dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync
> )
>
> If the stick is not plain bad, then you will have to show the messages
> which you see when booting gets stuck. Either as hand-copied text or
> as screen photo which you upload to some site like pastebin.com. In
> the latter case post a link to your uploaded photo.
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas
>
> sudo dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync
[sudo] password for kaye:
7893680128 bytes (7.9 GB, 7.4 GiB) copied, 1015 s, 7.8 MB/s
7536+0 records in
7536+0 records out
7902068736 bytes (7.9 GB, 7.4 GiB) copied, 1015.78 s, 7.8 MB/s

The above seems fine, right?

Also, if it matters, I CANNOT get in the live Debian (where I could use the
operating system), but it seems I can run the installer (although I
cancelled the installation because I want to be able to get in the live
Debian).

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#241181

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2021-10-11 14:40 +0200
Message-ID<D72KZ-2ec-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241175
Hi,

kaye n wrote:
> sudo dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync
> [sudo] password for kaye:
> 7893680128 bytes (7.9 GB, 7.4 GiB) copied, 1015 s, 7.8 MB/s
> 7536+0 records in
> 7536+0 records out
> 7902068736 bytes (7.9 GB, 7.4 GiB) copied, 1015.78 s, 7.8 MB/s
>  
> The above seems fine, right?

Yes. Looks ok.


> Also, if it matters, I CANNOT get in the live Debian (where I could use the
> operating system), but it seems I can run the installer

Probably you find better experts on debian-live@lists.debian.org
See
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/

In any case you will have to report as much of the messages as you can.


But, urm, it might be that debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso does
not provide any graphical user interface. Maybe a shell prompt is all
you can expect from it.

Try
  https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce.iso
or other .iso files from that page which name a graphical desktop system,
like "kde", "gnome", "cinnamon", ...

If you get further than with "standard", but still don't get a graphical
desktop, then it is at latest time to consider Andrei POPESCU's proposal
of using a "non-free" image (i.e. with the proprietiary drivers and
firmware which Debian can accept with outmost tolerance).
E.g.

  https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso


> What's the difference between
> bt-hybrid/
> and
> iso-hybrid/

They are supposed to differ only by the way of downloading.
"bt-hybrid" is for users of bittorrent, "iso-hybrid" is for users of web
browser or download tools like "wget".


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#241184

FromGreg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org>
Date2021-10-11 14:50 +0200
Message-ID<D72UF-2ix-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241181
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> But, urm, it might be that debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso does
> not provide any graphical user interface. Maybe a shell prompt is all
> you can expect from it.

I'm almost 100% certain this is true.

If the live system is working, other than that one kernel warning message,
then just ignore the warning.  Hit Enter to get a "clean" shell prompt.

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#241186

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2021-10-11 15:00 +0200
Message-ID<D734m-2md-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241184
On Mon 11 Oct 2021 at 08:41:17 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > But, urm, it might be that debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso does
> > not provide any graphical user interface. Maybe a shell prompt is all
> > you can expect from it.
> 
> I'm almost 100% certain this is true.

You can be 100% certain. The ISO size is indicative and there is a
packages file.

-- 
Brian.

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#241191

Fromkaye n <guikaye@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-11 15:30 +0200
Message-ID<D73xo-2MJ-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:41 PM Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > But, urm, it might be that debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso does
> > not provide any graphical user interface. Maybe a shell prompt is all
> > you can expect from it.
>
> I'm almost 100% certain this is true.
>
> If the live system is working, other than that one kernel warning message,
> then just ignore the warning.  Hit Enter to get a "clean" shell prompt.
>
>
So that's the issue.
What desktop environment would you guys recommend for a desktop computer
with these specs?

CPU:
  Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 1998 MHz
  min/max: 670/10166 MHz
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6

Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ?

That's my last question, won't bother you again for now.
Thank you very much in advance.

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#241195

Fromrhkramer@gmail.com
Date2021-10-11 16:10 +0200
Message-ID<D74a5-3f4-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241191
On Monday, October 11, 2021 09:20:25 AM kaye n wrote:
> So that's the issue.
> What desktop environment would you guys recommend for a desktop computer
> with these specs?
> 
> CPU:
>   Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 1998 MHz
>   min/max: 670/10166 MHz
> Graphics:
>   Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
>   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel
>   unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
>   OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6
> 
> Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ?

I'll give you my perspective:

Back in the day (ca. 2000), after some testing, I chose to use kde instead of 
gnome (and I don't remember what other alternatives I tried).  Everything in 
gnome seemed hard to see -- fuzzy and dark (just my impression).  Kde seemed 
easy to see, not fuzzy, and nice and bright.  (Of course some of that depends 
on the theme chosen.)

I eventually adopted kmail as my favorite email client.  (That remains true up 
through at least Debian Wheezy, in other words, when the primary means of 
email storage is via mbox.  Later versions of kmail apparently use a database 
(don't remember the name) and I hear about problems with that.)  So I wouild 
like to stick to a version of kde which uses a version of kmail which uses 
mbox for storage.

There is a distribution (again, can't remember the name (it is a bitch getting 
old) -- Gene Heskett may chime in to remind me, that is basically based on, 
well, I'll call it a fork of kde3, which still uses the kmail that uses mbox 
for storage.  When I retire my Wheezy system, I'll probably but that OS on 
that box.

Somewhere in there, kde came up with an approach for inter-application 
communication -- I forget the name they had for it, but nowadays it has been 
adopted by other Linux OSs and is named "dbus".   I used it for a few things 
back in the day, but don't explicitly use it anymore (it may be used "behind 
the scenes" so that I am not aware of it).

So, I will, for a long time, have a prejudice towards using an OS that uses 
kde as the desktop, including a (perhaps an older) version of kmail, and one 
that also includes or allows the use of dbus.  Perhaps all desktops do that 
now.

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#241197

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com>
Date2021-10-11 16:30 +0200
Message-ID<D74tr-3pK-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241195
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 10:09:10AM -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 09:20:25 AM kaye n wrote:
> > So that's the issue.
> > What desktop environment would you guys recommend for a desktop computer
> > with these specs?
> > 
> > CPU:
> >   Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 1998 MHz
> >   min/max: 670/10166 MHz
> > Graphics:
> >   Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
> >   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel
> >   unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
> >   OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6
> > 
> > Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ?
> 
> I'll give you my perspective:
> 
> Back in the day (ca. 2000), after some testing, I chose to use kde instead of 
> gnome (and I don't remember what other alternatives I tried).  Everything in 
> gnome seemed hard to see -- fuzzy and dark (just my impression).  Kde seemed 
> easy to see, not fuzzy, and nice and bright.  (Of course some of that depends 
> on the theme chosen.)
> 

This is a fairly old machine with shared memory for graphics.

XFCE / LXQt will probably work as well as anything else. LXQt is KDE-like.

Avoid the heavyweight desktops like GNOME/KDE. You will probably find
problems most with Firewfox or any web browser which have now become 
memory hogs.

Even Cinnamon and Mate are probably too heavy here. Don't expect fast
performance with modern software which tends to be memory hungry.

> I eventually adopted kmail as my favorite email client.  (That remains true up 
> through at least Debian Wheezy, in other words, when the primary means of 
> email storage is via mbox.  Later versions of kmail apparently use a database 
> (don't remember the name) and I hear about problems with that.)  So I wouild 
> like to stick to a version of kde which uses a version of kmail which uses 
> mbox for storage.
> 
> There is a distribution (again, can't remember the name (it is a bitch getting 
> old) -- Gene Heskett may chime in to remind me, that is basically based on, 
> well, I'll call it a fork of kde3, which still uses the kmail that uses mbox 
> for storage.  When I retire my Wheezy system, I'll probably but that OS on 
> that box.
> 

rhkramer - retire or upgrade your Wheezy system NOW. Don't delay, take it
off the network ASAP. That lost all support - including security support
of any description over three years ago now. For instructions on how
to upgrade between releases - see any number of posts here within the 
last couple of months.

All best, as ever, to all,

Andy Cater

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#241200

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-11 18:30 +0200
Message-ID<D76lB-4yT-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Lu, 11 oct 21, 21:20:25, kaye n wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:41 PM Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > > But, urm, it might be that debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso does
> > > not provide any graphical user interface. Maybe a shell prompt is all
> > > you can expect from it.
> >
> > I'm almost 100% certain this is true.
> >
> > If the live system is working, other than that one kernel warning message,
> > then just ignore the warning.  Hit Enter to get a "clean" shell prompt.
> >
> >
> So that's the issue.
> What desktop environment would you guys recommend for a desktop computer
> with these specs?
> 
> CPU:
>   Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 1998 MHz
>   min/max: 670/10166 MHz

How much RAM?

> Graphics:
>   Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
>   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel
>   unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
>   OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6
> 
> Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ?

My personal choice, even for faster machines is LXDE. It might seem a 
bit spartan, especially if you compare with Gnome or KDE, but it is also 
lightning fast, and all basic functionality is there.

Depending on your choice of applications you might also consider LXQt 
(based on Qt instead of GTK).

For machines with limited RAM it's probably best if you keep the number 
of toolkits in use at a minimum. 

(it's probably a good idea for live systems as well, unless you have 
enough RAM to boot with 'toram', if that option still exists and does 
what I remember it did)

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#241215

Fromkaye n <guikaye@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-12 00:10 +0200
Message-ID<D7bED-7OV-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241200

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On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 00:26 Andrei POPESCU, <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Lu, 11 oct 21, 21:20:25, kaye n wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:41 PM Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > > > But, urm, it might be that debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso does
> > > > not provide any graphical user interface. Maybe a shell prompt is all
> > > > you can expect from it.
> > >
> > > I'm almost 100% certain this is true.
> > >
> > > If the live system is working, other than that one kernel warning
> message,
> > > then just ignore the warning.  Hit Enter to get a "clean" shell prompt.
> > >
> > >
> > So that's the issue.
> > What desktop environment would you guys recommend for a desktop computer
> > with these specs?
> >
> > CPU:
> >   Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 1998 MHz
> >   min/max: 670/10166 MHz
>
> How much RAM?
>
> > Graphics:
> >   Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
> >   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel
> >   unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
> >   OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6
> >
> > Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ?
>
> My personal choice, even for faster machines is LXDE. It might seem a
> bit spartan, especially if you compare with Gnome or KDE, but it is also
> lightning fast, and all basic functionality is there.
>
> Depending on your choice of applications you might also consider LXQt
> (based on Qt instead of GTK).
>
> For machines with limited RAM it's probably best if you keep the number
> of toolkits in use at a minimum.
>
> (it's probably a good idea for live systems as well, unless you have
> enough RAM to boot with 'toram', if that option still exists and does
> what I remember it did)
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> --
> http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

Sorry forgot about the ram. It's 3GB.

>
>

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#241232

FromAndrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-12 08:50 +0200
Message-ID<D7jLP-4Dx-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Ma, 12 oct 21, 06:07:20, kaye n wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 00:26 Andrei POPESCU, <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Lu, 11 oct 21, 21:20:25, kaye n wrote:
> > >
> > > Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ?
> >
> > My personal choice, even for faster machines is LXDE. It might seem a
> > bit spartan, especially if you compare with Gnome or KDE, but it is also
> > lightning fast, and all basic functionality is there.
> 
> Sorry forgot about the ram. It's 3GB.

That's more than enough for LXDE and LXQt.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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#241203 — Re: Choosing a DE (was: How exactly do I create a Debian...)

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2021-10-11 19:20 +0200
SubjectRe: Choosing a DE (was: How exactly do I create a Debian...)
Message-ID<D777X-53L-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241191
kaye n composed on 2021-10-11 21:20 (UTC+0800):

> What desktop environment would you guys recommend for a desktop computer
> with these specs?

> CPU:
>   Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 1998 MHz
>   min/max: 670/10166 MHz
> Graphics:
>   Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
>   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel
>   unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
>   OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6

> Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ?

> That's my last question, won't bother you again for now.
> Thank you very much in advance. 							
											
I have several with Bullseye running on E8400s and 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 or
2560x1440 screens. All are running TDE.
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment
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#241204 — Re: Choosing a DE (was: How exactly do I create a Debian...)

Fromdeloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org>
Date2021-10-11 21:10 +0200
SubjectRe: Choosing a DE (was: How exactly do I create a Debian...)
Message-ID<D78Qr-67y-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241203
Felix Miata wrote:

> 
> I have several with Bullseye running on E8400s and 1680x1050 or 1920x1200
> or 2560x1440 screens. All are running TDE.
> https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment

I can second that - this is the most stable desktop

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#241180

Fromkaye n <guikaye@gmail.com>
Date2021-10-11 14:30 +0200
Message-ID<D72Bj-2ax-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 6:56 PM Thomas Schmitt <scdbackup@gmx.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> kaye n wrote:
> > Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the USB
> > stick in fat32.
>
> This is not necessary and will be overwritten by your next step:
>
> > sudo cp  debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb
> > sync
>
> This is a correct procedure and is supposed to do what is needed.
> The fact that booting works confirms that you did it right.
>
> > stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc.
>
> Maybe your USB stick is not good.
> Do you get i/o errors when you read the whole stick by:
>
>   dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null
>
> (Depending on size and speed of the stick this can last long.
>  If your dd is young enough you get entertaining progress messages by
>  adding two more options:
>
>    dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync
> )
>
> If the stick is not plain bad, then you will have to show the messages
> which you see when booting gets stuck. Either as hand-copied text or
> as screen photo which you upload to some site like pastebin.com. In
> the latter case post a link to your uploaded photo.
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas
>
>
When I try to enter the live Debian, I get the terminal-like screen with
this message:

user@debian:~# [       41.896110] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev fd0,
sector 0 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0

The installer seems to run fine although I did not proceed with the
installation because I still want a usb stick that has a working Live
Debian.

Thank you

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#241201

FromAnssi Saari <as@sci.fi>
Date2021-10-11 18:40 +0200
Message-ID<D76vg-4BY-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241180
kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> writes:

> When I try to enter the live Debian, I get the terminal-like screen with this message:
>
> user@debian:~# [       41.896110] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio
> class 0

That looks like a normal prompt to me. With an error message from trying
to access a floppy drive which you might not even have, let alone have
an actual floppy in it. It's probably not a problem.

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#241229

FromSean Behan <seanwbehan@riseup.net>
Date2021-10-12 02:40 +0200
Message-ID<D7dZM-Ft-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#241167
That cp command looks fine, but if you want to try using dd with
offsets, try:

sudo dd if=debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M

if is input file, of is output file, bs is blocksize which I set to 4MB
which is a typical block size

If that still doesn't work it's likely an issue with the USB flash drive
you're using.

---
Sean Behan

On 2021-10-11 06:38, kaye n wrote:
> Hello Friends!
> 
> I did this and was able to boot my newly created Debian 11 live USB but was
> stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc.
> 
> Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the USB
> stick in fat32.
> 
> Then I used these commands
> 
> sudo cp  debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb
> sync
> 
> All seemed fine until I booted the live USB and got the error message as
> stated above.
> 
> Thank you for your time.

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