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| First post | 2021-10-11 12:40 +0200 |
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How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 12:40 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-11 13:00 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 13:20 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 13:50 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 14:00 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 13:50 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2021-10-11 14:40 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-10-11 14:50 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-10-11 15:00 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 15:30 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-10-11 16:10 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-10-11 16:30 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 18:30 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2021-10-12 00:10 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-12 08:50 +0200
Re: Choosing a DE (was: How exactly do I create a Debian...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-10-11 19:20 +0200
Re: Choosing a DE (was: How exactly do I create a Debian...) deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> - 2021-10-11 21:10 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> - 2021-10-11 14:30 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-10-11 18:40 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Sean Behan <seanwbehan@riseup.net> - 2021-10-12 02:40 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Махно <mindaugasceliesius@gmail.com> - 2021-10-12 14:10 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <roy@rtellason.com> - 2021-10-12 17:00 +0200
Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? Махно <mindaugasceliesius@gmail.com> - 2021-10-13 15:40 +0200
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| From | kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 12:40 +0200 |
| Subject | How exactly do I create a Debian live USB? |
| Message-ID | <D70SR-15i-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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Hello Friends! I did this and was able to boot my newly created Debian 11 live USB but was stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc. Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the USB stick in fat32. Then I used these commands sudo cp debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb sync All seemed fine until I booted the live USB and got the error message as stated above. Thank you for your time.
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| From | "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 13:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D71ce-1bM-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241167 |
Hi, kaye n wrote: > Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the USB > stick in fat32. This is not necessary and will be overwritten by your next step: > sudo cp debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb > sync This is a correct procedure and is supposed to do what is needed. The fact that booting works confirms that you did it right. > stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc. Maybe your USB stick is not good. Do you get i/o errors when you read the whole stick by: dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null (Depending on size and speed of the stick this can last long. If your dd is young enough you get entertaining progress messages by adding two more options: dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync ) If the stick is not plain bad, then you will have to show the messages which you see when booting gets stuck. Either as hand-copied text or as screen photo which you upload to some site like pastebin.com. In the latter case post a link to your uploaded photo. Have a nice day :) Thomas
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| From | Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 13:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D71vz-1xl-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241169 |
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On Lu, 11 oct 21, 12:56:28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > kaye n wrote: > > Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the USB > > stick in fat32. > > This is not necessary and will be overwritten by your next step: > > > sudo cp debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb > > sync > > This is a correct procedure and is supposed to do what is needed. > The fact that booting works confirms that you did it right. > > > stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc. > > Maybe your USB stick is not good. > Do you get i/o errors when you read the whole stick by: > > dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null > > (Depending on size and speed of the stick this can last long. > If your dd is young enough you get entertaining progress messages by > adding two more options: > > dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync > ) > > If the stick is not plain bad, then you will have to show the messages > which you see when booting gets stuck. Either as hand-copied text or > as screen photo which you upload to some site like pastebin.com. In > the latter case post a link to your uploaded photo. In addition to what Thomas wrote, you might also want to try the live image including firmware. https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/ It's unlikely to fix whatever I/O errors you encountered, but it might help with other issues you didn't encounter yet ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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| From | kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 13:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D71YB-1Hx-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241173 |
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 7:14 PM Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote: > On Lu, 11 oct 21, 12:56:28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > kaye n wrote: > > > Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the > USB > > > stick in fat32. > > > > This is not necessary and will be overwritten by your next step: > > > > > sudo cp debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb > > > sync > > > > This is a correct procedure and is supposed to do what is needed. > > The fact that booting works confirms that you did it right. > > > > > stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc. > > > > Maybe your USB stick is not good. > > Do you get i/o errors when you read the whole stick by: > > > > dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null > > > > (Depending on size and speed of the stick this can last long. > > If your dd is young enough you get entertaining progress messages by > > adding two more options: > > > > dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync > > ) > > > > If the stick is not plain bad, then you will have to show the messages > > which you see when booting gets stuck. Either as hand-copied text or > > as screen photo which you upload to some site like pastebin.com. In > > the latter case post a link to your uploaded photo. > > In addition to what Thomas wrote, you might also want to try the live > image including firmware. > > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/ > > It's unlikely to fix whatever I/O errors you encountered, but it might > help with other issues you didn't encounter yet ;) > > > Kind regards, > Andrei > -- > http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Andrei are you suggesting I use either of the two found here? https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/11.1.0-live+nonfree/amd64/ What's the difference between bt-hybrid/ and iso-hybrid/ Thank you
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| From | David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 14:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D728i-1KZ-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241176 |
On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 22:46, kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> wrote: > > Andrei are you suggesting I use either of the two found here? > > https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/11.1.0-live+nonfree/amd64/ > > What's the difference between > > bt-hybrid/ > and > iso-hybrid/ If you point your browser to those directories then you can read the pages there that answer your question.
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| From | kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 13:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D71YB-1Hx-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241169 |
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 6:56 PM Thomas Schmitt <scdbackup@gmx.net> wrote: > Hi, > > kaye n wrote: > > Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the USB > > stick in fat32. > > This is not necessary and will be overwritten by your next step: > > > sudo cp debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb > > sync > > This is a correct procedure and is supposed to do what is needed. > The fact that booting works confirms that you did it right. > > > stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc. > > Maybe your USB stick is not good. > Do you get i/o errors when you read the whole stick by: > > dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null > > (Depending on size and speed of the stick this can last long. > If your dd is young enough you get entertaining progress messages by > adding two more options: > > dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync > ) > > If the stick is not plain bad, then you will have to show the messages > which you see when booting gets stuck. Either as hand-copied text or > as screen photo which you upload to some site like pastebin.com. In > the latter case post a link to your uploaded photo. > > > Have a nice day :) > > Thomas > > sudo dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync [sudo] password for kaye: 7893680128 bytes (7.9 GB, 7.4 GiB) copied, 1015 s, 7.8 MB/s 7536+0 records in 7536+0 records out 7902068736 bytes (7.9 GB, 7.4 GiB) copied, 1015.78 s, 7.8 MB/s The above seems fine, right? Also, if it matters, I CANNOT get in the live Debian (where I could use the operating system), but it seems I can run the installer (although I cancelled the installation because I want to be able to get in the live Debian).
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| From | "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 14:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D72KZ-2ec-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241175 |
Hi, kaye n wrote: > sudo dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync > [sudo] password for kaye: > 7893680128 bytes (7.9 GB, 7.4 GiB) copied, 1015 s, 7.8 MB/s > 7536+0 records in > 7536+0 records out > 7902068736 bytes (7.9 GB, 7.4 GiB) copied, 1015.78 s, 7.8 MB/s > > The above seems fine, right? Yes. Looks ok. > Also, if it matters, I CANNOT get in the live Debian (where I could use the > operating system), but it seems I can run the installer Probably you find better experts on debian-live@lists.debian.org See https://lists.debian.org/debian-live/ In any case you will have to report as much of the messages as you can. But, urm, it might be that debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso does not provide any graphical user interface. Maybe a shell prompt is all you can expect from it. Try https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce.iso or other .iso files from that page which name a graphical desktop system, like "kde", "gnome", "cinnamon", ... If you get further than with "standard", but still don't get a graphical desktop, then it is at latest time to consider Andrei POPESCU's proposal of using a "non-free" image (i.e. with the proprietiary drivers and firmware which Debian can accept with outmost tolerance). E.g. https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-11.1.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso > What's the difference between > bt-hybrid/ > and > iso-hybrid/ They are supposed to differ only by the way of downloading. "bt-hybrid" is for users of bittorrent, "iso-hybrid" is for users of web browser or download tools like "wget". Have a nice day :) Thomas
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| From | Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 14:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D72UF-2ix-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241181 |
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > But, urm, it might be that debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso does > not provide any graphical user interface. Maybe a shell prompt is all > you can expect from it. I'm almost 100% certain this is true. If the live system is working, other than that one kernel warning message, then just ignore the warning. Hit Enter to get a "clean" shell prompt.
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| From | Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 15:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D734m-2md-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241184 |
On Mon 11 Oct 2021 at 08:41:17 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > But, urm, it might be that debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso does > > not provide any graphical user interface. Maybe a shell prompt is all > > you can expect from it. > > I'm almost 100% certain this is true. You can be 100% certain. The ISO size is indicative and there is a packages file. -- Brian.
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| From | kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 15:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D73xo-2MJ-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241184 |
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:41 PM Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > But, urm, it might be that debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso does > > not provide any graphical user interface. Maybe a shell prompt is all > > you can expect from it. > > I'm almost 100% certain this is true. > > If the live system is working, other than that one kernel warning message, > then just ignore the warning. Hit Enter to get a "clean" shell prompt. > > So that's the issue. What desktop environment would you guys recommend for a desktop computer with these specs? CPU: Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 1998 MHz min/max: 670/10166 MHz Graphics: Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6 Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ? That's my last question, won't bother you again for now. Thank you very much in advance.
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| From | rhkramer@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 16:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D74a5-3f4-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241191 |
On Monday, October 11, 2021 09:20:25 AM kaye n wrote: > So that's the issue. > What desktop environment would you guys recommend for a desktop computer > with these specs? > > CPU: > Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 1998 MHz > min/max: 670/10166 MHz > Graphics: > Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel > Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel > unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz > OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6 > > Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ? I'll give you my perspective: Back in the day (ca. 2000), after some testing, I chose to use kde instead of gnome (and I don't remember what other alternatives I tried). Everything in gnome seemed hard to see -- fuzzy and dark (just my impression). Kde seemed easy to see, not fuzzy, and nice and bright. (Of course some of that depends on the theme chosen.) I eventually adopted kmail as my favorite email client. (That remains true up through at least Debian Wheezy, in other words, when the primary means of email storage is via mbox. Later versions of kmail apparently use a database (don't remember the name) and I hear about problems with that.) So I wouild like to stick to a version of kde which uses a version of kmail which uses mbox for storage. There is a distribution (again, can't remember the name (it is a bitch getting old) -- Gene Heskett may chime in to remind me, that is basically based on, well, I'll call it a fork of kde3, which still uses the kmail that uses mbox for storage. When I retire my Wheezy system, I'll probably but that OS on that box. Somewhere in there, kde came up with an approach for inter-application communication -- I forget the name they had for it, but nowadays it has been adopted by other Linux OSs and is named "dbus". I used it for a few things back in the day, but don't explicitly use it anymore (it may be used "behind the scenes" so that I am not aware of it). So, I will, for a long time, have a prejudice towards using an OS that uses kde as the desktop, including a (perhaps an older) version of kmail, and one that also includes or allows the use of dbus. Perhaps all desktops do that now.
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| From | "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 16:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D74tr-3pK-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241195 |
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 10:09:10AM -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, October 11, 2021 09:20:25 AM kaye n wrote: > > So that's the issue. > > What desktop environment would you guys recommend for a desktop computer > > with these specs? > > > > CPU: > > Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 1998 MHz > > min/max: 670/10166 MHz > > Graphics: > > Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel > > Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel > > unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz > > OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6 > > > > Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ? > > I'll give you my perspective: > > Back in the day (ca. 2000), after some testing, I chose to use kde instead of > gnome (and I don't remember what other alternatives I tried). Everything in > gnome seemed hard to see -- fuzzy and dark (just my impression). Kde seemed > easy to see, not fuzzy, and nice and bright. (Of course some of that depends > on the theme chosen.) > This is a fairly old machine with shared memory for graphics. XFCE / LXQt will probably work as well as anything else. LXQt is KDE-like. Avoid the heavyweight desktops like GNOME/KDE. You will probably find problems most with Firewfox or any web browser which have now become memory hogs. Even Cinnamon and Mate are probably too heavy here. Don't expect fast performance with modern software which tends to be memory hungry. > I eventually adopted kmail as my favorite email client. (That remains true up > through at least Debian Wheezy, in other words, when the primary means of > email storage is via mbox. Later versions of kmail apparently use a database > (don't remember the name) and I hear about problems with that.) So I wouild > like to stick to a version of kde which uses a version of kmail which uses > mbox for storage. > > There is a distribution (again, can't remember the name (it is a bitch getting > old) -- Gene Heskett may chime in to remind me, that is basically based on, > well, I'll call it a fork of kde3, which still uses the kmail that uses mbox > for storage. When I retire my Wheezy system, I'll probably but that OS on > that box. > rhkramer - retire or upgrade your Wheezy system NOW. Don't delay, take it off the network ASAP. That lost all support - including security support of any description over three years ago now. For instructions on how to upgrade between releases - see any number of posts here within the last couple of months. All best, as ever, to all, Andy Cater
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| From | Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 18:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D76lB-4yT-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241191 |
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On Lu, 11 oct 21, 21:20:25, kaye n wrote: > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:41 PM Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > But, urm, it might be that debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso does > > > not provide any graphical user interface. Maybe a shell prompt is all > > > you can expect from it. > > > > I'm almost 100% certain this is true. > > > > If the live system is working, other than that one kernel warning message, > > then just ignore the warning. Hit Enter to get a "clean" shell prompt. > > > > > So that's the issue. > What desktop environment would you guys recommend for a desktop computer > with these specs? > > CPU: > Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 1998 MHz > min/max: 670/10166 MHz How much RAM? > Graphics: > Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel > Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel > unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz > OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6 > > Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ? My personal choice, even for faster machines is LXDE. It might seem a bit spartan, especially if you compare with Gnome or KDE, but it is also lightning fast, and all basic functionality is there. Depending on your choice of applications you might also consider LXQt (based on Qt instead of GTK). For machines with limited RAM it's probably best if you keep the number of toolkits in use at a minimum. (it's probably a good idea for live systems as well, unless you have enough RAM to boot with 'toram', if that option still exists and does what I remember it did) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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| From | kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-12 00:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D7bED-7OV-25@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241200 |
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 00:26 Andrei POPESCU, <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote: > On Lu, 11 oct 21, 21:20:25, kaye n wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:41 PM Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > > But, urm, it might be that debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso does > > > > not provide any graphical user interface. Maybe a shell prompt is all > > > > you can expect from it. > > > > > > I'm almost 100% certain this is true. > > > > > > If the live system is working, other than that one kernel warning > message, > > > then just ignore the warning. Hit Enter to get a "clean" shell prompt. > > > > > > > > So that's the issue. > > What desktop environment would you guys recommend for a desktop computer > > with these specs? > > > > CPU: > > Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 1998 MHz > > min/max: 670/10166 MHz > > How much RAM? > > > Graphics: > > Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel > > Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel > > unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz > > OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6 > > > > Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ? > > My personal choice, even for faster machines is LXDE. It might seem a > bit spartan, especially if you compare with Gnome or KDE, but it is also > lightning fast, and all basic functionality is there. > > Depending on your choice of applications you might also consider LXQt > (based on Qt instead of GTK). > > For machines with limited RAM it's probably best if you keep the number > of toolkits in use at a minimum. > > (it's probably a good idea for live systems as well, unless you have > enough RAM to boot with 'toram', if that option still exists and does > what I remember it did) > > Kind regards, > Andrei > -- > http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Sorry forgot about the ram. It's 3GB. > >
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| From | Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-12 08:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D7jLP-4Dx-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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On Ma, 12 oct 21, 06:07:20, kaye n wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 00:26 Andrei POPESCU, <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > On Lu, 11 oct 21, 21:20:25, kaye n wrote: > > > > > > Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ? > > > > My personal choice, even for faster machines is LXDE. It might seem a > > bit spartan, especially if you compare with Gnome or KDE, but it is also > > lightning fast, and all basic functionality is there. > > Sorry forgot about the ram. It's 3GB. That's more than enough for LXDE and LXQt. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 19:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Choosing a DE (was: How exactly do I create a Debian...) |
| Message-ID | <D777X-53L-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241191 |
kaye n composed on 2021-10-11 21:20 (UTC+0800): > What desktop environment would you guys recommend for a desktop computer > with these specs? > CPU: > Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 type: MCP speed: 1998 MHz > min/max: 670/10166 MHz > Graphics: > Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel > Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel > unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz > OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945G v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6 > Do I choose xfce, kde, mate, etc. ? > That's my last question, won't bother you again for now. > Thank you very much in advance. I have several with Bullseye running on E8400s and 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 or 2560x1440 screens. All are running TDE. https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata
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| From | deloptes <emanoil.kotsev@deloptes.org> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 21:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Choosing a DE (was: How exactly do I create a Debian...) |
| Message-ID | <D78Qr-67y-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241203 |
Felix Miata wrote: > > I have several with Bullseye running on E8400s and 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 > or 2560x1440 screens. All are running TDE. > https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment I can second that - this is the most stable desktop -- FCD6 3719 0FFB F1BF 38EA 4727 5348 5F1F DCFE BCB0
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| From | kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 14:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D72Bj-2ax-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241169 |
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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 6:56 PM Thomas Schmitt <scdbackup@gmx.net> wrote: > Hi, > > kaye n wrote: > > Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the USB > > stick in fat32. > > This is not necessary and will be overwritten by your next step: > > > sudo cp debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb > > sync > > This is a correct procedure and is supposed to do what is needed. > The fact that booting works confirms that you did it right. > > > stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc. > > Maybe your USB stick is not good. > Do you get i/o errors when you read the whole stick by: > > dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null > > (Depending on size and speed of the stick this can last long. > If your dd is young enough you get entertaining progress messages by > adding two more options: > > dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress oflag=dsync > ) > > If the stick is not plain bad, then you will have to show the messages > which you see when booting gets stuck. Either as hand-copied text or > as screen photo which you upload to some site like pastebin.com. In > the latter case post a link to your uploaded photo. > > > Have a nice day :) > > Thomas > > When I try to enter the live Debian, I get the terminal-like screen with this message: user@debian:~# [ 41.896110] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0 The installer seems to run fine although I did not proceed with the installation because I still want a usb stick that has a working Live Debian. Thank you
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| From | Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> |
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| Date | 2021-10-11 18:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D76vg-4BY-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241180 |
kaye n <guikaye@gmail.com> writes: > When I try to enter the live Debian, I get the terminal-like screen with this message: > > user@debian:~# [ 41.896110] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio > class 0 That looks like a normal prompt to me. With an error message from trying to access a floppy drive which you might not even have, let alone have an actual floppy in it. It's probably not a problem.
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| From | Sean Behan <seanwbehan@riseup.net> |
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| Date | 2021-10-12 02:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D7dZM-Ft-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #241167 |
That cp command looks fine, but if you want to try using dd with offsets, try: sudo dd if=debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M if is input file, of is output file, bs is blocksize which I set to 4MB which is a typical block size If that still doesn't work it's likely an issue with the USB flash drive you're using. --- Sean Behan On 2021-10-11 06:38, kaye n wrote: > Hello Friends! > > I did this and was able to boot my newly created Debian 11 live USB but was > stuck in a black terminal-like screen where it says, I/O error, etc. > > Using GParted, I created an MS-DOS partition table and formatted the USB > stick in fat32. > > Then I used these commands > > sudo cp debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.iso /dev/sdb > sync > > All seemed fine until I booted the live USB and got the error message as > stated above. > > Thank you for your time.
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