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  Plasma config change? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2021-10-05 13:00 +0200
    Re: Plasma config change? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-10-05 15:20 +0200
    Re: Plasma config change? Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2021-10-07 15:30 +0200
      Re: Plasma config change? Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-10-08 08:50 +0200

#240906 — Plasma config change?

Hi folks,

somehow I missed something and was surprised today. 

Does anyone know, when plasma (kde) did change the position of its 
configuration files from ~/.kde to ~/.config? And according to this, is ~/.kde 
still needed or can it be safely fully deleted?

Thanks for reading and any answers.

Best

Hans 

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#240912

On Tue 05 Oct 2021 at 12:55:49 (+0200), Hans wrote:
> 
> somehow I missed something and was surprised today. 
> 
> Does anyone know, when plasma (kde) did change the position of its 
> configuration files from ~/.kde to ~/.config? And according to this, is ~/.kde 
> still needed or can it be safely fully deleted?

That's the way things are moving. The modification dates on your files
would probably enable you to determine when your system changes over.

And I would move ~/.kde to, say, ~/keep-old.kde rather than deleting
it. You might want to consult it. (I assume you're not inconvenienced
by its size.)

Cheers,
David.

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Am Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2021, 12:55:49 CEST schrieben Sie:
I am answering myself. Still could not dircover, in which version of plasma 
the settings were changed.

The other thing is: Do not delete the folder ~/.kde, because by default it 
keeps all your mails in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/, which is the default 
place for storing mails. However, you can move this folder to another place 
and reconfigure kmail.

But, even then, you can not delete the folder ~/.kde, as plasma is still 
needing it for some files (i.e. kde.globals). I believe, this is just a bug, 
and believe, the developers might have overseen this.

Please note, I am still running debian/stable, which means, that the plasma 
version is 5.20, whilst the development in testing or unstable is already 
5.21.

So it looks like you will have either to upgrade to testing or unstable, or 
just delete all configs below ~/.kde which are existent below ~/.config.

Maybe someone will write a transition script to get rid of unused config file 
below ~/.kde. On the other hand, in about 2 years bookworm will be stable, and 
maybe this issue will be solved automatically.

Cheers

Hans
> Hi folks,
> 
> somehow I missed something and was surprised today.
> 
> Does anyone know, when plasma (kde) did change the position of its
> configuration files from ~/.kde to ~/.config? And according to this, is
> ~/.kde still needed or can it be safely fully deleted?
> 
> Thanks for reading and any answers.
> 
> Best
> 
> Hans

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On Jo, 07 oct 21, 15:26:38, Hans wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 5. Oktober 2021, 12:55:49 CEST schrieben Sie:
> I am answering myself. Still could not dircover, in which version of plasma 
> the settings were changed.
> 
> The other thing is: Do not delete the folder ~/.kde, because by default it 
> keeps all your mails in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/, which is the default 
> place for storing mails. However, you can move this folder to another place 
> and reconfigure kmail.
> 
> But, even then, you can not delete the folder ~/.kde, as plasma is still 
> needing it for some files (i.e. kde.globals). I believe, this is just a bug, 
> and believe, the developers might have overseen this.
> 
> Please note, I am still running debian/stable, which means, that the plasma 
> version is 5.20, whilst the development in testing or unstable is already 
> 5.21.
> 
> So it looks like you will have either to upgrade to testing or unstable, or 
> just delete all configs below ~/.kde which are existent below ~/.config.
> 
> Maybe someone will write a transition script to get rid of unused config file 
> below ~/.kde. On the other hand, in about 2 years bookworm will be stable, and 
> maybe this issue will be solved automatically.

This may or may not help in this particular situation, considering this 
is about a full-featured Desktop Environment (with which I have only 
limited experience).

Developers tend to be quite conservative on such moves and will err on 
the side of caution *if* the old folder is still present.

My usual strategy in the past has been to move the old folder out of the 
way and let the application recreate its stuff in the new location. Then 
move data / reconfigure as needed.

Hope this helps,
Andrei
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