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| Started by | Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> |
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| First post | 2021-09-28 22:30 +0200 |
| Last post | 2021-09-30 18:40 +0200 |
| Articles | 10 on this page of 50 — 13 participants |
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iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-28 22:30 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-09-28 22:50 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2021-09-29 00:30 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-29 15:10 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2021-09-30 04:00 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-29 15:20 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-09-29 15:40 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-29 15:50 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-09-29 16:20 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-29 20:50 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-09-29 21:20 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-29 21:40 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-09-29 22:40 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-29 23:40 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-29 23:20 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-09-30 00:10 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-09-30 07:30 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 08:40 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-30 15:30 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 01:20 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-30 15:50 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-30 16:20 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-09-30 20:30 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-09-30 08:30 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-30 15:30 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2021-09-30 16:20 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-30 17:00 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-09-30 17:50 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-30 18:30 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-09-30 18:40 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-09-30 19:40 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2021-09-30 18:10 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-09-30 17:50 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2021-09-30 18:30 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-09-30 19:40 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Henning Follmann <hfollmann@itcfollmann.com> - 2021-09-30 20:10 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-09-30 21:40 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-30 22:00 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-30 20:20 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-30 18:30 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 20:20 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-09-30 22:00 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-09-30 16:30 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-09-30 07:30 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-30 16:00 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-09-30 20:40 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-30 16:40 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-09-30 17:20 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> - 2021-09-30 18:20 +0200
Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-09-30 18:40 +0200
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| From | Lee <ler762@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-09-30 20:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D38P0-2On-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #240663 |
On 9/30/21, Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hi Tomas > >> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 11:48 PM >> From: tomas@....de >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Subject: Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - >> Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) >> >> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 10:14:05AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> > What baffels me is though, at what length someone would go to not use >> > the default >> > methods to connect via wifi. Especially when they showed limited >> > experience >> > in networking in the first place. >> >> This remark was, IMO, unnecessary: after all, that's how we learn around >> here, >> don't we? >> >> At least that's how I learn. >> > Bingo. I couldn't agree with you more. Seriously!!? My wireless is slow, so I've been sort of following this thread in case something useful (to me :-) gets mentioned, but all the learning being done seems to be of the negative "this doesn't work" flavour,, Why not stick with standard procedure and follow https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse That at least seems to be a better bet for getting a working wireless connection that you can then improve upon later. Best Regards, Lee
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2021-09-30 22:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D3anL-3Bk-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #240675 |
On Thu 30 Sep 2021 at 14:11:51 (-0400), Lee wrote: > On 9/30/21, Stella Ashburne wrote: > >> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 11:48 PM > >> From: tomas@....de > >> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 10:14:05AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> > What baffels me is though, at what length someone would go to not use > >> > the default > >> > methods to connect via wifi. Especially when they showed limited > >> > experience > >> > in networking in the first place. > >> > >> This remark was, IMO, unnecessary: after all, that's how we learn around > >> here, > >> don't we? > >> > >> At least that's how I learn. > >> > > Bingo. I couldn't agree with you more. > > Seriously!!? My wireless is slow, so I've been sort of following this > thread in case something useful (to me :-) gets mentioned, but all the > learning being done seems to be of the negative "this doesn't work" > flavour,, > > Why not stick with standard procedure and follow > https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse > > That at least seems to be a better bet for getting a working wireless > connection that you can then improve upon later. "it's also possible to nearly base your entire networking stack on one codebase with IWD alone. It's an all-in-one wireless client, wireless daemon, and even a DHCP client optionally! At its best, your entire networking stack can be as minimal as IWD + systemd-resolved, and this works wonderfully for many scenarios. It has virtually zero dependencies and uses modern kernel features as often as possible. Anecdotal reports suggest that it's much faster to connect to networks than wpa_supplicant, and has better roaming support, among other perceived improvements." I like the idea of better roaming support. But even at home, I want a connection method that occasionally "goes to sleep" and means crossing the house to sort it out. 'If "EnableNetworkConfiguration=true" is set, you'll also need to configure IWD's name resolving service. It supports systemd-resolved and resolvconf.' Currently I run resolvconf. As I wrote elsewhere, I've not delved into how systemd has disturbed things. Anyway, AIUI this wiki page seems to assume that you're converting a running WiFi from wpa_supplicant to iwd, rather than setting up iwd from scratch. So it (again, seems to) lack too many troubleshooting methods for those doing the latter on a new installation. Cheers, David.
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| From | rhkramer@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2021-09-30 16:30 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) |
| Message-ID | <D35eq-BL-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #240637 |
On Thursday, September 30, 2021 09:19:45 AM Stella Ashburne wrote: > Do you think any one of them will reply to my email? It's a long shot, I > know. You don't have much to lose by sending an email. If it would require a long email that would take you a fair amount of time to write, you might write a short one just asking if they'd be willing to read your longer one if you composed / sent it. Back in my working (for pay) days, I was quite often gratified by the responses I got from some companies to my letters or emails requesting assistance without a contractual relationship. Notably (I won't remember them all), but DEC (Digital Equipment) and Rockwell Automation.
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2021-09-30 07:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D2WNP-3Iu-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #240555 |
On Wed 29 Sep 2021 at 15:18:44 (+0200), Stella Ashburne wrote: > > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 4:45 AM > > From: "Dan Ritter" <dsr@randomstring.org> > > > > Try > > > > sudo dhclient wlan0 > > > > and see if that gives you an IP and a default route, at which > > point apt update should work. > > > > I tried the command: > > sudo dhclient wlan0 > > and no result (nothing) appeared. I'm not sure exactly what *should* appear. Normally, I read about DHCP's actions in the logs. Anyway … > May I refer you to the sub-section titled "Setting static IP address in network configuration" of ArchLinux' wiki on iwd (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Iwd). > > My file whitecollar.psk located in /var/lib/iwd/ has the following contents: So the WiFi's SSID is whitecollar (all lower case)? > [Security] > PreSharedKey=a long string of alphanumeric characters > Passphrase=aquickbrownfoxjumpsoverthelazydog I take it that you edited in the passphrase, and iwd wrote the PreSharedKey into the file itself? > [IPv4] > Address=192.168.30.115 > Netmask=255.255.255.0 > Gateway=192.168.30.1 > Broadcast=192.168.30.255 > DNS=8.8.8.8 Where did you get the number 115 from? It's claimed that iwd can do DHCP itself. For this, you'd drop the [IPv4] paragraph above, and instead put [General] EnableNetworkConfiguration=true into /etc/iwd/main.conf (create if necessary). > Please note that I have disabled IPv6 by adding the line > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="ipv6.disable=1 quiet" > > to /etc/default/grub It's claimed that iwd only configures IPv6 if you have [Network] EnableIPv6=true in /etc/iwd/main.conf. Cheers, David.
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| From | Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2021-09-30 16:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D34Lo-cD-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #240619 |
Hola David > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 1:22 PM > From: "David Wright" <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) > > > So the WiFi's SSID is whitecollar (all lower case)? > Si Señor > > [Security] > > PreSharedKey=a long string of alphanumeric characters > > Passphrase=aquickbrownfoxjumpsoverthelazydog > > I take it that you edited in the passphrase, and iwd wrote > the PreSharedKey into the file itself? > Yes, before I submitted my post to lists.debian.org, I changed my passphrase to aquickbrownfoxjumpsoverthelazydog > > [IPv4] > > Address=192.168.30.115 > > Netmask=255.255.255.0 > > Gateway=192.168.30.1 > > Broadcast=192.168.30.255 > > DNS=8.8.8.8 > > Where did you get the number 115 from? > My dear David, I plucked it out of thin air. Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa?? I could have just typed 130 instead of 115..... > It's claimed that iwd can do DHCP itself. For this, you'd drop > the [IPv4] paragraph above, and instead put > > [General] > EnableNetworkConfiguration=true > into /etc/iwd/main.conf (create if necessary). > Yes, I think ArchLinux's wiki mentions that starting with iwd's version 0.9, the latter can do DHCP... > > Please note that I have disabled IPv6 by adding the line > > > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="ipv6.disable=1 quiet" > > > > to /etc/default/grub > > It's claimed that iwd only configures IPv6 if you have > > [Network] > EnableIPv6=true > > in /etc/iwd/main.conf. > That's absolutely correct. In fact according to the same ArchLinux's wiki, with iwd, support for IPv6 is disabled by default.
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2021-09-30 20:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D398l-2UA-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #240643 |
On Thu 30 Sep 2021 at 15:55:54 (+0200), Stella Ashburne wrote: > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 1:22 PM > > From: "David Wright" <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> > > > [Security] > > > PreSharedKey=a long string of alphanumeric characters > > > Passphrase=aquickbrownfoxjumpsoverthelazydog > > > > I take it that you edited in the passphrase, and iwd wrote > > the PreSharedKey into the file itself? > > > Yes, before I submitted my post to lists.debian.org, I changed my passphrase to aquickbrownfoxjumpsoverthelazydog I expected that. I was only confirming that you didn't write the PSK, but only the passphrase. iwd then fills it in. Speaking of which, I'm not sure what is meant (in the wiki) by "connect" in "The pre-shared key will be appended to the file at the first connect". Does this mean when one commands iwctl, or when the SSID is seen. > > > [IPv4] > > > Address=192.168.30.115 > > > Netmask=255.255.255.0 > > > Gateway=192.168.30.1 > > > Broadcast=192.168.30.255 > > > DNS=8.8.8.8 > > > > Where did you get the number 115 from? > > > My dear David, I plucked it out of thin air. Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa?? I could have just typed 130 instead of 115..... In which case, is the 30 made up. We just don't know whether the PC is on the same network as the router yet. And I don't have experience of setting up a static network without the router's cooperation on choosing addresses. > > It's claimed that iwd can do DHCP itself. For this, you'd drop > > the [IPv4] paragraph above, and instead put > > > > [General] > > EnableNetworkConfiguration=true > > into /etc/iwd/main.conf (create if necessary). > > > Yes, I think ArchLinux's wiki mentions that starting with iwd's version 0.9, the latter can do DHCP... > > > > Please note that I have disabled IPv6 by adding the line > > > > > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="ipv6.disable=1 quiet" > > > > > > to /etc/default/grub > > > > It's claimed that iwd only configures IPv6 if you have > > > > [Network] > > EnableIPv6=true > > > > in /etc/iwd/main.conf. > > > That's absolutely correct. In fact according to the same ArchLinux's wiki, with iwd, support for IPv6 is disabled by default. > Cheers, David.
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| From | Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2021-09-30 16:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D35o5-F3-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #240619 |
Oh dear! Oh dear! > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 1:22 PM > From: "David Wright" <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) > > > [IPv4] > > Address=192.168.30.115 > > Netmask=255.255.255.0 > > Gateway=192.168.30.1 > > Broadcast=192.168.30.255 > > DNS=8.8.8.8 > > > It's claimed that iwd can do DHCP itself. For this, you'd drop > the [IPv4] paragraph above, and instead put > > [General] > EnableNetworkConfiguration=true > > into /etc/iwd/main.conf (create if necessary). > Per your suggestion, I created a file main.conf in /etc/iwd/ and typed in the words: [General] EnableNetworkConfiguration=true and saved it. Next I removed the following lines from /var/lib/iwd/whitecollar.psk as you have suggested: [IPv4] Address=192.168.30.115 Netmask=255.255.255.0 Gateway=192.168.30.1 Broadcast=192.168.30.255 DNS=8.8.8.8 and saved the changes. After a reboot, I typed the following word at the command prompt: iwctl Next, I typed station wlan0 show The output was: No device found
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| From | Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> |
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| Date | 2021-09-30 17:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D360N-17C-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #240649 |
Stella Ashburne wrote: > Oh dear! Oh dear! > > After a reboot, I typed the following word at the command prompt: > > iwctl > > Next, I typed > > station wlan0 show > > The output was: No device found Try ip link show and look for the name of a device which could be your wifi NIC. -dsr-
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| From | Stella Ashburne <rewefie@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2021-09-30 18:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D36WR-1H8-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #240653 |
Hi Dan > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 11:15 PM > From: "Dan Ritter" <dsr@randomstring.org> > To: "Stella Ashburne" <rewefie@gmx.com> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) > > > Try > > ip link show > > and look for the name of a device which could be your wifi NIC. > Nope, ip link show does not show up any device which is my wifi NIC
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| From | Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> |
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| Date | 2021-09-30 18:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <D37ge-1NJ-23@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #240661 |
Stella Ashburne wrote: > Hi Dan > > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 11:15 PM > > From: "Dan Ritter" <dsr@randomstring.org> > > To: "Stella Ashburne" <rewefie@gmx.com> > > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: iwd: Using iwd to connect to a wireless network (Part 1 - Connection status show OK but unable to surf the net) > > > > > > Try > > > > ip link show > > > > and look for the name of a device which could be your wifi NIC. > > > Nope, ip link show does not show up any device which is my wifi NIC Then the kernel is not recognizing it. Can you spot it in either lspci or lsusb and tell us the hardware? -dsr-
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