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Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer

Started byRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
First post2021-06-25 15:50 +0200
Last post2021-07-01 01:10 +0200
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  Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-25 15:50 +0200
    Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-06-25 16:00 +0200
      Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-25 16:50 +0200
    Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-06-25 23:10 +0200
      Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-26 11:50 +0200
        Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2021-06-26 19:40 +0200
          Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-26 20:40 +0200
            Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-30 15:50 +0200
              Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-06-30 20:50 +0200
                Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-07-01 15:10 +0200
                  Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-01 17:30 +0200
                    Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-02 19:50 +0200
                  Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-07-01 18:50 +0200
                    Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-01 22:10 +0200
                      Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2021-07-01 22:40 +0200
                        Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-02 00:00 +0200
                          Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-07-02 12:00 +0200
                            Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-02 12:20 +0200
                              Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-02 21:10 +0200
                    Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-07-01 22:20 +0200
              Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-01 00:20 +0200
    Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2021-06-27 09:40 +0200
      Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-27 10:40 +0200
      Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> - 2021-06-27 16:40 +0200
        Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-06-27 16:40 +0200
          Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-06-27 17:40 +0200
          Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Peter Ehlert <pb21a@sdi-baja.com> - 2021-06-27 17:40 +0200
            Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-06-27 19:40 +0200
            X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer] "Rick Thomas" <rick.thomas@pobox.com> - 2021-06-29 04:40 +0200
              Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-29 04:50 +0200
                Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-06-29 05:20 +0200
                  Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-29 11:00 +0200
                    Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-06-30 10:30 +0200
                Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] IL Ka <kazakevichilya@gmail.com> - 2021-06-29 11:50 +0200
                  Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-29 18:20 +0200
                    Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-06-29 18:40 +0200
                      Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-06-29 19:30 +0200
                        Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-29 20:10 +0200
                          Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-06-29 20:50 +0200
                            Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-06-29 21:00 +0200
                              Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer] Lucas Castro <lucas@gnuabordo.com.br> - 2021-06-29 21:10 +0200
                            Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-29 22:50 +0200
                              Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-06-29 23:00 +0200
                                Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-29 23:10 +0200
                                  Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-06-30 10:40 +0200
                                    Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-30 11:30 +0200
                                      Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-06-30 12:00 +0200
                                        Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-07-01 01:40 +0200
                                      Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-06-30 12:00 +0200
                                        Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-30 15:20 +0200
                                          Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-06-30 15:40 +0200
                                          Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-06-30 16:40 +0200
                                      Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-06-30 12:00 +0200
                            Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-29 22:50 +0200
                            Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-06-30 12:00 +0200
                              Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-06-30 14:50 +0200
                                Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...] Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-06-30 15:00 +0200
                                  Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-30 15:40 +0200
                                Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-06-30 20:20 +0200
                                Re: Mailing list behaviour, words and that [was: Re: X server ...] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-06-30 20:50 +0200
                              Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-30 15:40 +0200
                                Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-06-30 16:40 +0200
                                  Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-06-30 17:10 +0200
                                    Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-06-30 17:40 +0200
                                    Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-30 17:50 +0200
                                      Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-06-30 18:10 +0200
                                        Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-30 18:40 +0200
                                          Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-06-30 20:30 +0200
                                            Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-06-30 21:30 +0200
                                            Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-01 07:20 +0200
                                              Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2021-07-01 11:30 +0200
                                      Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] "Thompson, Brian" <brian@hashvault.io> - 2021-06-30 18:10 +0200
                                        Re: Artifical Intellignce ( was : X something) Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-06-30 19:00 +0200
                                          Re: Artifical Intellignce ( was : X something) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-06-30 19:20 +0200
                                        [OT, maybe] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-06-30 22:20 +0200
                                          Re: [OT, maybe] Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2021-06-30 22:30 +0200
                                        Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-07-01 02:00 +0200
                                      Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-07-01 02:00 +0200
                                        Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-01 06:40 +0200
                                          Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] - continue Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> - 2021-07-01 07:00 +0200
                                Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-06-30 22:10 +0200
                              Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-06-30 20:00 +0200
                                Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special  purpose Debian installer] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-01 01:10 +0200

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#236684 — Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2021-06-30 22:10 +0200
SubjectRe: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]
Message-ID<CvOGZ-6kO-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#236660
On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 09:33:37 -0400
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside <debian@polynamaude.com> wrote:


> 
> There's a old saying that state :
> "Give someone a fish, feed him for the day, teach him how to fish,
> feed him for life".
> 
> That must be something that doesn't apply anymore.

It never did. The second clause is really 'and he'll be back in the
same place the next day waiting for you to give him *his* fish.' Why
bother learning something when you can just hold out your hand?

Fashions change by the week, customs change by the decade, human
psychology changes by the tens of millennia. It would have been the
same in Christ's day.

The IT world is admittedly a bit different, a higher proportion of us
generally want to learn to fish. It is safe to include anyone who
wrangles a Linux distribution among those. Many people explicitly ask
'how do I troubleshoot XXXX', or 'where can I learn about XXXX' rather
than 'how do I fix XXXX'.

-- 
Joe

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#236678 — Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2021-06-30 20:00 +0200
SubjectRe: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]
Message-ID<CvMFb-4WH-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#236654
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 13:31:37 +0100, mick crane wrote:

> On 2021-06-30 10:59, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:43:28PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > DO NOT USE xhost + WITH ssh -X OR ssh -Y
> > > 
> > > That was the fucking point.
> > 
> > Calm down. I understand security is close to your heart,
> > but there's no need to be so vitriolic and borderline
> > insulting about it.
> > 
> > There are nicer ways to drive the point home that, nowadays,
> > "xhost +" isn't a good idea, generally.
> 
> "f" word is very ancient English word which gives added emphasis especially
> when unexpected
> Doesn't bother me but as you say is inappropriate on mailing list and I'm
> sure it's a one-off.

It is inappropriate anywhere in public. You are not bothered by this?
I am and so are others. Just so you know.

By all means use it with your parents, children and grandparents. Keep
it in the family and don't subject the rest of us to it.

Your use of a euphanism is interesting. The "E" word?

-- 
Brian.

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#236690 — Re: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2021-07-01 01:10 +0200
SubjectRe: X server running on a different machine [Re: Wanted: a special purpose Debian installer]
Message-ID<CvRvb-81W-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#236678
On Wed 30 Jun 2021 at 23:40:54 +0100, mick crane wrote:

> On 2021-06-30 18:56, Brian wrote:
> 
> > > "f" word is very ancient English word which gives added emphasis
> > > especially
> > > when unexpected
> > > Doesn't bother me but as you say is inappropriate on mailing list
> > > and I'm
> > > sure it's a one-off.
> > 
> > It is inappropriate anywhere in public. You are not bothered by this?
> > I am and so are others. Just so you know.
> > 
> > By all means use it with your parents, children and grandparents. Keep
> > it in the family and don't subject the rest of us to it.
> 
> I am more outraged that you assume I would swear in front of family members
> than I am seeing "f" word.

But you appear to be comfortable (not bothered) when the word is
inflicted on members of the public, who include family members. I
am not. It does bother me.

-- 
Brian.

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