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  Synaptic error message Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-26 16:30 +0200
    Re: Synaptic error message "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-06-26 17:20 +0200
      Re: Synaptic error message Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-26 17:50 +0200
        Re: Synaptic error message "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-06-26 18:50 +0200
        Re: Synaptic error message Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-06-26 20:20 +0200
          Re: Synaptic error message Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-06-26 21:00 +0200
          Re: Synaptic error message Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2021-06-27 10:30 +0200
            Re: Synaptic error message rhkramer@gmail.com - 2021-06-27 14:50 +0200
    Re: Synaptic error message Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2021-06-27 20:00 +0200
      RESOLVED: Synaptic error message Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-27 23:10 +0200
        Re: RESOLVED: Synaptic error message Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-06-28 00:40 +0200
          Re: RESOLVED: Synaptic error message Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2021-06-28 00:50 +0200

#236492 — Synaptic error message

I have a empty machine on which I've done a default install of
Debian 10.7.0 with MATE as my desktop. As I intend later to install some 
non-Debian software I wanted a local repository. To have a known base to 
start from I extracted the contents of dvd1.iso to a local directory.

My sources.list references it as:
> deb [ Trusted=yes ] file:////home/richard/DVDs/dvd1/ buster main contrib  non-free

In Synaptic when I do Edit->Reload Package Information it responds:
> The repository 'file://home/richard/DVDs/dvd1 buster Release' is not signed.


https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=%2B%22synaptic%22%20%2B%22repository%22%20%2B%22not%20signed%22%20site%3Adebian.org 
gives no useful information.

What do I do?
What should I have read?
TIA

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#236494

On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 09:20:33AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have a empty machine on which I've done a default install of
> Debian 10.7.0 with MATE as my desktop. As I intend later to install some
> non-Debian software I wanted a local repository. To have a known base to
> start from I extracted the contents of dvd1.iso to a local directory.
> 
> My sources.list references it as:
> > deb [ Trusted=yes ] file:////home/richard/DVDs/dvd1/ buster main contrib  non-free
> 
> In Synaptic when I do Edit->Reload Package Information it responds:
> > The repository 'file://home/richard/DVDs/dvd1 buster Release' is not signed.
> 
> 
> https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=%2B%22synaptic%22%20%2B%22repository%22%20%2B%22not%20signed%22%20site%3Adebian.org
> gives no useful information.
> 
> What do I do?
> What should I have read?
> TIA
> 
> 

Richard:

Maybe earlier messages on -user ? DVDs aren't normally signed repositories.

Various folk have suggested to you how to mount DVDs correctly and how to 
use apt-cdrom to add the contents to apt.

Take the DVD, mount it, use apt-cdrom to index the contents and go from 
there? 

Synaptic may not be ideal: you might find that your use cases may be 
better served by apt/aptitude which may allow you to better see what 
you're doing.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater

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#236495

On 06/26/2021 10:11 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 09:20:33AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> I have a empty machine on which I've done a default install of
>> Debian 10.7.0 with MATE as my desktop. As I intend later to install some
>> non-Debian software I wanted a local repository. To have a known base to
>> start from I extracted the contents of dvd1.iso to a local directory.
>>
>> My sources.list references it as:
>>> deb [ Trusted=yes ] file:////home/richard/DVDs/dvd1/ buster main contrib  non-free
>>
>> In Synaptic when I do Edit->Reload Package Information it responds:
>>> The repository 'file://home/richard/DVDs/dvd1 buster Release' is not signed.
>>
>>
>> https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=%2B%22synaptic%22%20%2B%22repository%22%20%2B%22not%20signed%22%20site%3Adebian.org
>> gives no useful information.
>>
>> What do I do?
>> What should I have read?
>> TIA
>>
>>
> 
> Richard:
> 
> Maybe earlier messages on -user ? DVDs aren't normally signed repositories.
> 
> Various folk have suggested to you how to mount DVDs correctly and how to
> use apt-cdrom to add the contents to apt.
> 
> Take the DVD, mount it, use apt-cdrom to index the contents and go from
> there?
> 
> Synaptic may not be ideal: you might find that your use cases may be
> better served by apt/aptitude which may allow you to better see what
> you're doing.

This group keeps reading _INTO_ my questions things that aren't there.
I'm in my eight decade and was introduced to computers as an engineering 
undergrad in early 60's, back when they had 12AX7's and 5U4's -- well 
before 8080's. In the 80's I was writing 8080/8085 assembler code for 
embedded systems. I did not get to really get to explore *PERSONAL* 
computing (excluding a KIM, P.E.T., and Z80 based S100 systems) until I 
retired.

Mantra du jour: "If retirement isn't for learning, what use is it!"

Back in 70's I got a job with a large mini-computer manufacturer 
*BECAUSE* I had no interest in things "digital". My expertise was 
analog! Old-enough timers might recognize ML5-5 as a significant mail stop.

mutter mutter mut...

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#236496

On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 10:46:22AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/26/2021 10:11 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 09:20:33AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > I have a empty machine on which I've done a default install of
> > > Debian 10.7.0 with MATE as my desktop. As I intend later to install some
> > > non-Debian software I wanted a local repository. To have a known base to
> > > start from I extracted the contents of dvd1.iso to a local directory.
> > > 
> > > My sources.list references it as:
> > > > deb [ Trusted=yes ] file:////home/richard/DVDs/dvd1/ buster main contrib  non-free
> > > 
> > > In Synaptic when I do Edit->Reload Package Information it responds:
> > > > The repository 'file://home/richard/DVDs/dvd1 buster Release' is not signed.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=%2B%22synaptic%22%20%2B%22repository%22%20%2B%22not%20signed%22%20site%3Adebian.org
> > > gives no useful information.
> > > 
> > > What do I do?
> > > What should I have read?
> > > TIA
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Richard:
> > 
> > Maybe earlier messages on -user ? DVDs aren't normally signed repositories.
> > 
> > Various folk have suggested to you how to mount DVDs correctly and how to
> > use apt-cdrom to add the contents to apt.
> > 
> > Take the DVD, mount it, use apt-cdrom to index the contents and go from
> > there?
> > 
> > Synaptic may not be ideal: you might find that your use cases may be
> > better served by apt/aptitude which may allow you to better see what
> > you're doing.
> 
> This group keeps reading _INTO_ my questions things that aren't there.
> I'm in my eight decade and was introduced to computers as an engineering
> undergrad in early 60's, back when they had 12AX7's and 5U4's -- well before
> 8080's. In the 80's I was writing 8080/8085 assembler code for embedded
> systems. I did not get to really get to explore *PERSONAL* computing
> (excluding a KIM, P.E.T., and Z80 based S100 systems) until I retired.
> 
> Mantra du jour: "If retirement isn't for learning, what use is it!"
> 
> Back in 70's I got a job with a large mini-computer manufacturer *BECAUSE* I
> had no interest in things "digital". My expertise was analog! Old-enough
> timers might recognize ML5-5 as a significant mail stop.
> 
> mutter mutter mut...
> 
12AX7 and 5U4 - sounds like some good tubes for an analog RF amplifier
if nothing else (says this radio amateur). Between you and Gene, we 
should perhaps have a master class :) 

apt-cdrom should really work for you. I have a virtual machine set up
which ONLY has a DVD 1 attached and no GUI yet. Installed on an expert
install and minimal. That's as close as I can get to what you seem to 
be talking about :)

All best, as ever,

Andy Cater
> 
> 

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#236499

On Sat 26 Jun 2021 at 10:46:22 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> This group keeps reading _INTO_ my questions things that aren't there.

This group also continues to answer the same questions you have asked
time and time before :) and received responses to. Be grateful (and
graceful).

> I'm in my eight decade and was introduced to computers as an engineering
> undergrad in early 60's, back when they had 12AX7's and 5U4's -- well before
> 8080's. In the 80's I was writing 8080/8085 assembler code for embedded
> systems. I did not get to really get to explore *PERSONAL* computing
> (excluding a KIM, P.E.T., and Z80 based S100 systems) until I retired.

You had computers in your early days? How fortunate! We had to make
do with an abacus. The lucky ones had one powered by the new-fangled
electricity stuff - two electrodes stuck into a lemon. Code was writen
by punching holes into paper with a knitting needle.

> Mantra du jour: "If retirement isn't for learning, what use is it!"

Education?

> Back in 70's I got a job with a large mini-computer manufacturer *BECAUSE* I
> had no interest in things "digital". My expertise was analog! Old-enough
> timers might recognize ML5-5 as a significant mail stop.

A choice between analogue and digital? You really were well off. We had
to train carrier pigeons to peck out a message with their beaks and we
needed to be adept at semaphore. Drum skills were a must.

-- 
Brian.

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#236501

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On Sb, 26 iun 21, 19:11:25, Brian wrote:
> On Sat 26 Jun 2021 at 10:46:22 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> 
> > This group keeps reading _INTO_ my questions things that aren't there.
> 
> This group also continues to answer the same questions you have asked
> time and time before :) and received responses to. Be grateful (and
> graceful).

Sound like things that should be added to some FAQ, maybe even a special 
section dedicated to Richard's questions :p

If only there was such a place that any subscriber could easily edit :p

(because of Poe's law I feel compelled to mention this is meant to be an 
attempt at humour, though Richard's questions do qualify as "frequent")

Kind regards,
Andrei
-- 
http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#236516

On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 19:11:25 +0100
Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:


> 
> A choice between analogue and digital? You really were well off. We
> had to train carrier pigeons to peck out a message with their beaks
> and we needed to be adept at semaphore. Drum skills were a must.
> 

There is no 'digital', it's all analogue with a poor signal/noise ratio.

And no, I'm not kidding. Some of the more obscure digital faults turn
out to require actually looking at the data with a (real) oscilloscope,
where its analogue nature can usually be seen very clearly.

Reflections, jitter, eye height, these are all analogue issues. I once
fixed a fault where a particular simple logic IC had to come from a
particular manufacturer, and someone had fitted one of the same type
number but from a different manufacturer, that had a different input
impedance. Real bleeding-edge, state-of-the-art hardware, that was.

-- 
Joe

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#236535

On Sunday, June 27, 2021 04:27:19 AM Joe wrote:
> There is no 'digital', it's all analogue with a poor signal/noise ratio.

Interesting -- thanks!

Nothing new below this line.

> And no, I'm not kidding. Some of the more obscure digital faults turn
> out to require actually looking at the data with a (real) oscilloscope,
> where its analogue nature can usually be seen very clearly.
> 
> Reflections, jitter, eye height, these are all analogue issues. I once
> fixed a fault where a particular simple logic IC had to come from a
> particular manufacturer, and someone had fitted one of the same type
> number but from a different manufacturer, that had a different input
> impedance. Real bleeding-edge, state-of-the-art hardware, that was.

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#236552

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On 26/06/2021 15:20, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have a empty machine on which I've done a default install of
> Debian 10.7.0 with MATE as my desktop. As I intend later to install
> some non-Debian software I wanted a local repository. To have a known
> base to start from I extracted the contents of dvd1.iso to a local
> directory.
>
> My sources.list references it as:
>> deb [ Trusted=yes ] file:////home/richard/DVDs/dvd1/ buster main
>> contrib  non-free
>
> In Synaptic when I do Edit->Reload Package Information it responds:
>> The repository 'file://home/richard/DVDs/dvd1 buster Release' is not
>> signed.
>
>
> https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=%2B%22synaptic%22%20%2B%22repository%22%20%2B%22not%20signed%22%20site%3Adebian.org
> gives no useful information.
>
> What do I do?
> What should I have read?

"man sources.list" will give you the format of the "deb ..." line. In
particular, it will tell you that the command for setting a repository
to trusted is "trusted", rather than "Trusted". Computers can be a
little TOO literal at times.


> TIA
>
>

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#236554 — RESOLVED: Synaptic error message

On 06/27/2021 12:50 PM, Darac Marjal wrote:
> 
> On 26/06/2021 15:20, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> I have a empty machine on which I've done a default install of
>> Debian 10.7.0 with MATE as my desktop. As I intend later to install
>> some non-Debian software I wanted a local repository. To have a known
>> base to start from I extracted the contents of dvd1.iso to a local
>> directory.
>>
>> My sources.list references it as:
>>> deb [ Trusted=yes ] file:////home/richard/DVDs/dvd1/ buster main
>>> contrib  non-free
>>
>> In Synaptic when I do Edit->Reload Package Information it responds:
>>> The repository 'file://home/richard/DVDs/dvd1 buster Release' is not
>>> signed.
>>
>>
>> https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=%2B%22synaptic%22%20%2B%22repository%22%20%2B%22not%20signed%22%20site%3Adebian.org
>> gives no useful information.
>>
>> What do I do?
>> What should I have read?
> 
> "man sources.list" will give you the format of the "deb ..." line. In
> particular, it will tell you that the command for setting a repository
> to trusted is "trusted", rather than "Trusted". Computers can be a
> little TOO literal at times.
> 

That works. I had had it lowercase but I was also chasing some other 
error and the page of examples I was following had it upper case. One of 
those cases where it would be nice to have a larger variety of examples 
on the man page.

*THANK YOU*!

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#236559 — Re: RESOLVED: Synaptic error message

On Sun 27 Jun 2021 at 16:00:12 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 06/27/2021 12:50 PM, Darac Marjal wrote:
> > 
> > On 26/06/2021 15:20, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > I have a empty machine on which I've done a default install of
> > > Debian 10.7.0 with MATE as my desktop. As I intend later to install
> > > some non-Debian software I wanted a local repository. To have a known
> > > base to start from I extracted the contents of dvd1.iso to a local
> > > directory.
> > > 
> > > My sources.list references it as:
> > > > deb [ Trusted=yes ] file:////home/richard/DVDs/dvd1/ buster main
> > > > contrib  non-free
> > > 
> > > In Synaptic when I do Edit->Reload Package Information it responds:
> > > > The repository 'file://home/richard/DVDs/dvd1 buster Release' is not
> > > > signed.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=%2B%22synaptic%22%20%2B%22repository%22%20%2B%22not%20signed%22%20site%3Adebian.org
> > > gives no useful information.
> > > 
> > > What do I do?
> > > What should I have read?
> > 
> > "man sources.list" will give you the format of the "deb ..." line. In
> > particular, it will tell you that the command for setting a repository
> > to trusted is "trusted", rather than "Trusted". Computers can be a
> > little TOO literal at times.
> > 
> 
> That works. I had had it lowercase but I was also chasing some other error
> and the page of examples I was following had it upper case. One of those
> cases where it would be nice to have a larger variety of examples on the man
> page.

What need is there for examples when the manual is clarity itself??

Under

 THE DEB AND DEB-SRC TYPES: OPTIONS

sources.list(5) has

  •Trusted (trusted) is a tri-state value...

and

  For simplicity we list the deb822 field name and provide the one-line
  name in brackets.  

You are using the one-line format.

-- 
Brian.

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#236560 — Re: RESOLVED: Synaptic error message

On 06/27/2021 05:37 PM, Brian the PERFECT wrote:
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