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  Re: More fun with Seamonkey Siard <shiems@mailbox.org> - 2021-05-20 22:40 +0200
    Re: More fun with Seamonkey Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2021-05-21 02:20 +0200
      Re: More fun with Seamonkey Siard <shiems@mailbox.org> - 2021-05-21 13:50 +0200
        Re: More fun with Seamonkey Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2021-05-22 09:40 +0200

#235434 — Re: More fun with Seamonkey

Bob Bernstein:
> I downloaded the binary from seamonkey-project.org, and untarred 
> the bz2 archive. Praise be to whatever Powers and Principalities 
> were involved, but the thing started right up without so much as 
> a hiccup. What wonders!
> 
> Is it me, or does the 'Mail/Newsgroups' window sport a group of 
> fonts rather different from the 'Browser' window? Is there a way 
> to render the miniscule text in the former legible?

Both windows follow the gtk3 settings.
Put these lines in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini:

[Settings]
gtk-font-name = <font> <font size>

Example:

[Settings]
gtk-font-name = Liberation Sans 12

The first line ('[Settings]') is important, it should precede the second line.

Liberation Sans is the font that I prefer for this purpose.
So fonts-liberation is installed.
Not fonts-liberation2; the former looks better, at least on my screen.

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#235440

On Thu, 20 May 2021, Siard wrote:

> [Settings]
> gtk-font-name = Liberation Sans 12

BINGO!

Remedied almost everything. Fixed-width fonts in the body of 
text-based emails were still too small until I found 
Preferences->Appearance->Fonts could set a value for 'minimum 
font size,' which got majorly incremented by moi.

[Optional extra credit paragraph -- will not be on the quiz} As 
is doubtless evident to all assembled faithful, I am way past 
trying keep up any pretense that I am a wicked cool clue-enabled 
code-jockey who falls asleep with C snippets running through his 
head. I don't write device drivers before breakfast, but I know 
who does. All this just to lend context as I confess I have been 
trying to solve this configuration problem liteally for years. 
That problem is the principal reason I could never stay with 
seamonkey or thunderbird. I mean, I'm talkin' _years_ of being 
stymied by this. Okay, life is short and you busy folks don't 
have time for any more of my blather.

Thank you,

-- 
RSB

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#235441

On Thu, 20 May 2021, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> On Thu, 20 May 2021, Siard wrote:
>
> > [Settings]
> > gtk-font-name = Liberation Sans 12
> 
> BINGO!
> 
> Remedied almost everything. Fixed-width fonts in the body of 
> text-based emails were still too small until I found 
> Preferences->Appearance->Fonts could set a value for 'minimum 
> font size,' which got majorly incremented by moi.

My suggestion would be to set the message text to a fixed-width font.
Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Message Display > set Font to Fixed Width.
Preferences > Appearance > Fonts: set font size next to Monospace.
And keep the minimum font size at a lower value.
The browser can still display smaller text then.

> [Optional extra credit paragraph -- will not be on the quiz} As is
> doubtless evident to all assembled faithful, I am way past trying keep up
> any pretense that I am a wicked cool clue-enabled code-jockey who falls
> asleep with C snippets running through his head. I don't write device
> drivers before breakfast, but I know who does.

Well, I'm just an ordinary user myself.

> All this just to lend context as I confess I have been trying to solve this
> configuration problem liteally for years. That problem is the principal
> reason I could never stay with seamonkey or thunderbird. I mean, I'm
> talkin' _years_ of being stymied by this.

When using Gnome, you can find this in the Gnome Control Center.
Some other desktop environments seem to have their own settings for it.
For example, in Mate, I found it here:
System > Control Center > Look and Feel > Appearance > tab 'Fonts'.
It overrides the settings in ~/.config/gtk-3.0.

I have the Openbox WM myself. I did not find any setting for the GTK fonts
there, so I had to resort to the arcane configuration files mentioned above.

BTW, there is a similar setting for the font in gtk2 applications.
Put a line like this in ~/.gtkrc-2.0:

gtk-font-name = "Liberation Sans 12"

> Okay, life is short and you busy folks don't have time for any more of my
> blather.

Interesting and humorous 'blather', nevertheless.  :-)

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#235451

On Fri, 21 May 2021, Siard wrote:

> My suggestion would be to set the message text to a 
> fixed-width font. Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Message 
> Display > set Font to Fixed Width. Preferences > Appearance > 
> Fonts: set font size next to Monospace. And keep the minimum 
> font size at a lower value. The browser can still display 
> smaller text then.

Excellent. I will get to this ASAP.

> Well, I'm just an ordinary user myself.

Um...take some credit. You are an above-average "ordinary user" 
imho.

> Interesting and humorous 'blather', nevertheless.  :-)

Thank you. I find for my own sanity I need to keep a certain 
amount of whimsy always at the ready. I realize that's not 
everyone's cup 'o tea, so I appreciate your comment!

-- 
RSB

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